Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Trisquel image Ready for testing.

2020-11-04 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Nov 04, 2020 at 04:34:23PM +0100, Martin Guy wrote:
> The awkward ones were Music Keyboard in Python3, which needs the
> python ctcsound module, that is only available for Python2 in
> Debian, but it is Python version agnostic so I fish it out and copy
> it into /usr/lib/python3.7,

Yes, that's right.  A more perfect solution is to backport and rebuild
the csound source package from Debian Testing.

When I was building OLPC OS from Ubuntu 20.04, this wasn't a problem
because Ubuntu had already taken the csound source package from Debian
Testing.  All I had to do was declare the dependency on
python3-csound, and it all worked fine for Music Blocks 13.

> and the first version of metacity without the overlay bug (3.34) now
> needs libc6 >= 2.29 for amd64 instead of 2.28 for i386, which leads
> to dependency hell. I'm not sure how to work round that yet, other
> than limiting myself to 32-bit builds or getting Debian stable
> updated with the fix, which could be a slow process.

Yes.  However, the dependency is unlikely to be explicit, likely to be
accidental.  It isn't in the debian/control.in for the metacity source
package.

A more perfect solution is to backport and rebuild the metacity source
package from Debian Testing.

When I was building OLPC OS from Ubuntu 20.04, this wasn't a problem
because Ubuntu had already taken the metacity 3.36 source package from
Debian Testing.

> However I'm getting there...

Good.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Second Call for Candidacies Sugar Labs Oversight Board Elections 2020-2022

2020-11-04 Thread devin

Hi,

Feel free to add yourself to 
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2020-2022-candidates


It appears that the time
for the deadline was never specified, so you may still have time.

From Ibiam:
They're five(5) seats now available for candidates, the candidates wiki 
submission deadline is on the

4th of November, 2020.

Devin

On 2020-11-04 11:06, Martin Guy wrote:

Re: oversight board, I would be happy to apply since I gather that
achieving a quorum has been an obstacle to its effectiveness, but I
feel too new to Sugar and its community to know the ins and outs of
Sugar Labs.
That said, if a slot does remain vacant and I could usefully fill it,
I would be happy to reconsider this when I am more experienced and in
tune with SL. Am I right in thinking that the Board can fill vacant
posts by consensus in mid-term?

M
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [IAEP] Reminder: SLOBs Meeting Today 20:00 UTC

2020-11-04 Thread Lionel Laské
Hi Devin,

I've just reread it.

I don't have any remarks.

Regards.

  Lionel



Le mer. 4 nov. 2020 à 15:49,  a écrit :

> Ibiam,
>
> You are right!
>
> As much as I would rather spend my time doing something else right now,
> I suppose I should read (again) over this draft to make sure there are
> not more mistakes/regressions that have crept in.
>
> If anyone else would like to read it over too, I would appreciate it.
>
> At any rate, good catch!
>
> Devin
>
> On 2020-11-03 18:38, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote:
> > Thanks Devin; some comments.
> >
> > "Composition and Meetings. The Corporation shall have an Advisory
> > Board whose members shall be appointed by corporate sponsors who pay
> > annual fee to be determined by the Board of Directors. The Advisory
> > Board may meet at any time and place its members choose."
> >
> > I thought that the advisory board wasn't reserved for any sponsor.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2020, 10:19 PM  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> This is the latest bylaws which impacts all members and board of
> >> directors.
> >>
> >> As everyone has had sufficient time to review the last draft and
> >> this is
> >> only slightly modified, I plan to give the lawyer the green light
> >> tomorrow morning.
> >>
> >> Thank you all!
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Devin
> >>
> >> On 2020-10-28 14:53, devin@ulibarri.website wrote:
> >>> Attached is current draft. It was drafted from the SugarLabs Wiki
> >> by
> >>> Aaron Williamson, Sugar Labs Inc.'s lawyer.
> >> (https://www.akwlc.com/)
> >>>
> >>> (sending this separately as sometimes mailing lists send
> >> attachments
> >>> later)
> >>>
> >>> On 2020-10-28 14:52, devin@ulibarri.website wrote:
>  Hi All,
> 
>  If you would like to look over a draft of the bylaws for a future
>  Sugarlabs Inc. and can make it at 20:00 UTC today (SLOB's usual
> >> time,
>  every other Weds), please reply.
> 
>  Devin
> 
>  On 2020-10-14 10:45, devin@ulibarri.website wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Just a friendly reminder that today is the next SLOBs Meeting.
> >
> > The proposed agenda is
> >
> >>
> > https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2020-10-14
> >
> > As always, if any community members would like to join and do
> >> not
> > already know the link for the meeting, please reply to
> > sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org and request the link.
> >
> > Best,
> > Devin
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Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS username & password

2020-11-04 Thread Chihurumnaya Ibiam
I noticed the wiki recommending F33 some days ago and it shouldn't until
the issue gets fixed.

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On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 4:13 AM James Cameron  wrote:

> Given this problem, I don't know how it happened that Sugar Labs is
> recommending F33.  Should the Wiki page edits be reverted?  Or is it
> only specific architectures affected?
>
>
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Sugar_on_a_Stick/Downloads=5913=103778=103653
>
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Sugar_on_a_Stick/Download/hashes=17138=103776=103385
>
> On Wed, Nov 04, 2020 at 03:49:16AM +0100, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote:
> > Yes it's a bug in F33 SOAS and it's been looked at, you can download F32
> SOAS
> > here [1]
> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/32/Spins/x86_64/
> > iso/Fedora-SoaS-Live-x86_64-32-1.6.iso
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2020, 3:30 AM Walter Bender <[2]walter.ben...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > There is no default username/password, you should have been prompted
> > to create one on install.How did you build it/ install it?
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 11:40 AM Angelo Danio <[3]
> angelo.da...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear,
> > > Started SoaS I landed on those screen asking user name and
> password and
> > I’m not able to find on website.
> > > May you help me?
> > > Angelo
> >
> > --
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> > Sugar Labs
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> >
> > [1]
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> > [2] mailto:walter.ben...@gmail.com
> > [3] mailto:angelo.da...@gmail.com
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Second Call for Candidacies Sugar Labs Oversight Board Elections 2020-2022

2020-11-04 Thread Martin Guy
Re: oversight board, I would be happy to apply since I gather that
achieving a quorum has been an obstacle to its effectiveness, but I
feel too new to Sugar and its community to know the ins and outs of
Sugar Labs.
That said, if a slot does remain vacant and I could usefully fill it,
I would be happy to reconsider this when I am more experienced and in
tune with SL. Am I right in thinking that the Board can fill vacant
posts by consensus in mid-term?

M
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Trisquel image Ready for testing.

2020-11-04 Thread Martin Guy
On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 at 23:01, James Cameron  wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 02:16:27PM +0100, Martin Guy wrote:
> > I notice that Music Blocks isn't in the Trisquel Etiona set
> Music Blocks doesn't run as a Sugar activity yet.
OK, thanks.

> > Of the other activities, I couldn't make Develop do anything useful,
> I saw that when building OLPC OS.  A fix was pushed to the master
> branch of the upstream repository, and my guess is you cloned the
> Sugar Labs fork instead.  I've updated the Sugar Labs master branch.
That's right. I'll update from there.

> > > I see that you've done it manually and I'd love to know what you did.
> > Nothing special. Just searching each activity on
> > github.com/sugarlabs and filling in the fields
> searching for activities using repositories on github.com/sugarlabs
> is not (and never has been) a reliable process.

Ah. For the moment I'll leave at that as I have managed to get all the
Activities in Etiona installed. The awkward ones were Music Keyboard
in Python3, which needs the python ctcsound module, that is only
available for Python2 in Debian, but it is Python version agnostic so
I fish it out and copy it into /usr/lib/python3.7, and the first
version of metacity without the overlay bug (3.34) now needs libc6 >=
2.29 for amd64 instead of 2.28 for i386, which leads to dependency
hell. I'm not sure how to work round that yet, other than limiting
myself to 32-bit builds or getting Debian stable updated with the fix,
which could be a slow process.

However I'm getting there...

M
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Reminder: SLOBs Meeting Today 20:00 UTC

2020-11-04 Thread devin

Ibiam,

You are right!

As much as I would rather spend my time doing something else right now, 
I suppose I should read (again) over this draft to make sure there are 
not more mistakes/regressions that have crept in.


If anyone else would like to read it over too, I would appreciate it.

At any rate, good catch!

Devin

On 2020-11-03 18:38, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote:

Thanks Devin; some comments.

"Composition and Meetings. The Corporation shall have an Advisory
Board whose members shall be appointed by corporate sponsors who pay
annual fee to be determined by the Board of Directors. The Advisory
Board may meet at any time and place its members choose."

I thought that the advisory board wasn't reserved for any sponsor.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020, 10:19 PM  wrote:


Hi All,

This is the latest bylaws which impacts all members and board of
directors.

As everyone has had sufficient time to review the last draft and
this is
only slightly modified, I plan to give the lawyer the green light
tomorrow morning.

Thank you all!

Best,
Devin

On 2020-10-28 14:53, devin@ulibarri.website wrote:

Attached is current draft. It was drafted from the SugarLabs Wiki

by

Aaron Williamson, Sugar Labs Inc.'s lawyer.

(https://www.akwlc.com/)


(sending this separately as sometimes mailing lists send

attachments

later)

On 2020-10-28 14:52, devin@ulibarri.website wrote:

Hi All,

If you would like to look over a draft of the bylaws for a future
Sugarlabs Inc. and can make it at 20:00 UTC today (SLOB's usual

time,

every other Weds), please reply.

Devin

On 2020-10-14 10:45, devin@ulibarri.website wrote:

Hi All,

Just a friendly reminder that today is the next SLOBs Meeting.

The proposed agenda is




https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2020-10-14


As always, if any community members would like to join and do

not

already know the link for the meeting, please reply to
sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org and request the link.

Best,
Devin

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