Re: [Sugar-devel] Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)
Yes, Prof. Nagarjunaji, I have heard of your device and was really keen on the opportunity to interact with you over it. Of course, I am not one for reinventing the wheel and hence, the possible steps plus I, too, am more in favor of the 2nd option. Though, interestingly, Peter Robinson's suggestion makes a lot of sense of having a Fedora when, anyway, there is Linux under. I will definitely meet up with you in Mumbai when the opportunity comes forth. though touchscreen may have some advantages for some activities. Second, Sugar learning platform has plenty of activities to offer which are not available on Android currently. 1. Touchscreen opens up a lot of possibilities by way of creating more touchscreen conducive activities that are culture, locale specific. Enabling Touchscreen event for existing activities does not necessarily leverage the advantage of touch screen in enhancing the existing learning experience and to this regard, I am concerned about the complete picture of enabling a hand-held device to the optimum performance and therefore, this question. 2. Second you totally on the second. Regards, RJv On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Nagarjuna G. nagar...@gnowledge.orgwrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 8:54 PM, RJV jv.ravichand...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We are planning to port Sugar on Android and are faced with these options: 1. Sugar as an application on Android. 2. As a platform on top of the Linux platform. Can the Sugar build be used to create an app bundle to deploy to the app store? Are there any licensing issues? On 2., can someone share their experience, if any, please? We are very close to having Sugar on a tablet as well as a armel netbook, based on A10 chipset. We already have it working through a SD card, we are now in the process of flashing the internal memory, so that it will work fast. Almost all the hardware on A10 chipset is working with the linux kernel without any binary blobs. We work in Mumbai. In case you are around the city, we can meet and discuss how we can work together. The reason why 1 is not considered for us an option is: what children need is not a desktop that is meant mainly for delivery of content to play multimedia files and do business communications. We would like the children to work, do activities using a workspace that can be used with a keyboard, though touchscreen may have some advantages for some activities. Second, Sugar learning platform has plenty of activities to offer which are not available on Android currently. and Third, 1 will take a long time than 2. So we opted for 2. -- Nagarjuna G. http://www.gnowledge.org/ -- Regards, *Ravichandran J.V.* http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)
Hi, We are planning to port Sugar on Android and are faced with these options: 1. Sugar as an application on Android. 2. As a platform on top of the Linux platform. Can the Sugar build be used to create an app bundle to deploy to the app store? Are there any licensing issues? On 2., can someone share their experience, if any, please? -- Regards, *Ravichandran J.V.* http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)
Thanks, Martin. Btw, where did you deduce the name Rajiv from? :) RJv On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: Implement a shell -- replacing the standard Android shell -- that has the main features of Sugar shell -- Regards, *Ravichandran J.V.* http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)
Implement a shell -- replacing the standard Android shell -- that has the main features of Sugar shell This looks like the nearest to what I hope to achieve - the same experience of the XO on a hand-held device especially the Ad-Hoc networking. Jv On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:01 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: I'm sorry! Looks like I misread your name. A faux pass typical of borderline autistic people -- get all the technical details clearly, mess up the other person's name. Hope the technical part was useful. No offense intended. cheers, martin On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM, RJV jv.ravichand...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Martin. Btw, where did you deduce the name Rajiv from? :) RJv On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: Implement a shell -- replacing the standard Android shell -- that has the main features of Sugar shell -- Regards, Ravichandran J.V. http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff -- Regards, *Ravichandran J.V.* http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Shared activity game - Maze
When I share the Maze activity, the problem maze offered for the two connected XOs are the same while the game, itself, supports multi-player mode. Would it not be a good idea to offer the same maze in both the connected XOs and allow the two players to play on the same maze in the multi-player mode? I tried it between 1.75 and 1.5 (0.84) although I am sure the difference in hardware should not matter. -- Regards, *Ravichandran J.V.* http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Shared activity game - Maze
Oops, sorry. Please read When I share the Maze activity, the problem maze offered for the two connected XOs, should be the same (or so was my first thought) since the game, itself, supports multi-player mode but hey are both different mazes. It will be great fun if both the mazes were the same and both players could play on the same maze, racing against each other, as in the single XO, multi-players scenario! Thanks, Jv On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 2:06 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: When I share the Maze activity, the problem maze offered for the two connected XOs are the same while the game, itself, supports multi-player mode. -- Regards, *Ravichandran J.V.* http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Shared activity game - Maze
Since my XO is fairly new, I am sure the Maze version must be the latest. Anyway, clad to know it works that way. Will let you know as soon as I sync everything in the two XOs. Jv On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 4:59 AM, Manuel Kaufmann humi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 6:34 PM, RJV jv.ravichand...@gmail.com wrote: It will be great fun if both the mazes were the same and both players could play on the same maze, racing against each other, as in the single XO, multi-players scenario! It does really work in that way in Maze-22. I worked on that two weeks ago and I tested it a lot. I played with up to 3 player per XO ;) What version of Maze are you using? -- Kaufmann Manuel Blog: http://humitos.wordpress.com/ Porfolio: http://fotos.mkaufmann.com.ar/ PyAr: http://www.python.com.ar/ -- Regards, *Ravichandran J.V.* http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised
As Jerry mentioned, the trick is to uncheck Power Management option under the Power options of the laptop. Otherwise, the scenarios outlined by Ajay can be reproduced. It seems the power supply to the USB ports do make a difference. Regards, Ravichandran J.V. On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:52 PM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: USB flash drive On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 06:08:26PM +1100, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: I repeated these tests Thanks! XO-1.75 and XO-4 OS14 Huawei E160E modem Imation 8GB memory stick Is this actually a Memory Stick or do you mean a USB flash drive? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_Stick Ajay said pen-drive, and I took that to mean a USB flash drive. I was unable to replicate the fault described by Ajay, the modem appeared in the frame, both plugged in after boot and before boot but for both laptops In the first test, memory stick and modem plugged in after boot, the frame never got past displaying connecting, even though I could browse the net ok Yes, this is SL #4255. In the second test, memory stick and modem plugged in before boot, I got to the connected display in the frame but the upload and download kB counters never updated past 0 even though I was browsing, the connected time did update ok. Interesting, thanks. Updated SL #4255. I've never seen data counters in 13.1.0 builds. I did not try without the memory stick. I think your tests show that Ajay's problem is likely to be unique to the pen-drive in use. Thanks for that. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Renaming the Telescope activity to Scope
Hi, This looks like a great activity to me. I am unable to find what kind of telescopes (in India) can be used and help to this effect on the downloads page as a Readme would be very helpful. Has anybody used a physical telescope with this activity and what type? Thanks for any response. Jv On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote: Am 20.11.2012 um 06:23 schrieb Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com : On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote: As I recall, this activity was already renamed once from xoscope after it became clear it was colliding in name space with an oscilloscpe activity. Renames are a pain in infrastructure, and in upgrade handling for users. I would say prefer to retain the current name until there's an overwhelming case for change. Agreed. A rename should be well thought through. If you do it, agreed with what Chris said, please use a cerb. Thanks, Simon cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Renaming the Telescope activity to Scope
Thanks, Gary. I must mention here that the Moon activity is one of my favorites. Having been an astronomy buff, I can understand what the modern sky does to the activity. At times, even Sirius is not visible where I live, where a couple of decades back I and my friends could spot Andromeda or so we believed :)! The polluted sky is probably more assertive here in Delhi ! The above project uses a mounting bracket that attaches the monocular firmly to the XO so it is easier to aim. Thanks for this very useful info, will try it if I can get hold of a monocular here. Thanks, Jv P.S. I have a collection of Moon test images I should really go upload to the wiki soon... Will look out for them! I am sure I would like to help in anyway if I can with this! :) On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.comwrote: Hi Jv, On 23 Nov 2012, at 11:57, RJV jv.ravichand...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, This looks like a great activity to me. I am unable to find what kind of telescopes (in India) can be used and help to this effect on the downloads page as a Readme would be very helpful. Has anybody used a physical telescope with this activity and what type? Thanks for any response. Have a look at the learning resources pdf at: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Moon#Learning_Resources This covers research into a low cost monocular project that Telescope activity was originally aimed at. For Moon observing I have had fair success using a Brunton 10-30x21 monocular. It can be carefully held against the XO bezel over the camera, but that's quite hard work to keep everything still and pointed at the correct location ;) The above project uses a mounting bracket that attaches the monocular firmly to the XO so it is easier to aim. For imaging planets (e.g Jupiter/Saturn with moons) that monocular does not quite get enough light into the camera to show the moons, though I do have a light polluted sky here so you might manage better. You might also like this shot Sameer Verma tweeted recently: https://twitter.com/sameerverma/status/271428793476980736/photo/1 Regards, --Gary P.S. I have a collection of Moon test images I should really go upload to the wiki soon... Jv On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Am 20.11.2012 um 06:23 schrieb Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote: As I recall, this activity was already renamed once from xoscope after it became clear it was colliding in name space with an oscilloscpe activity. Renames are a pain in infrastructure, and in upgrade handling for users. I would say prefer to retain the current name until there's an overwhelming case for change. Agreed. A rename should be well thought through. If you do it, agreed with what Chris said, please use a cerb. Thanks, Simon cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised
Hi James, I agree that the frame icon for the modem may not be present if power managament was enabled, The frame does work with the Power Management option unchecked. What does the frame icon for the modem mean? Jv On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 2:51 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: That's not what Ajay said here: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2012-November/036409.html Ajay, can you confirm in the above posting that all power management was disabled? I agree that the frame icon for the modem may not be present if power managament was enabled, but I see that as a separate problem now. On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 05:20:45PM +0530, RJV wrote: As Jerry mentioned, the trick is to uncheck Power Management option under the Power options of the laptop. Otherwise, the scenarios outlined by Ajay can be reproduced. It seems the power supply to the USB ports do make a difference. Regards, Ravichandran J.V. On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:52 PM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: USB flash drive On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 06:08:26PM +1100, fors...@ozonline.com.auwrote: I repeated these tests Thanks! XO-1.75 and XO-4 OS14 Huawei E160E modem Imation 8GB memory stick Is this actually a Memory Stick or do you mean a USB flash drive? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_Stick Ajay said pen-drive, and I took that to mean a USB flash drive. I was unable to replicate the fault described by Ajay, the modem appeared in the frame, both plugged in after boot and before boot but for both laptops In the first test, memory stick and modem plugged in after boot, the frame never got past displaying connecting, even though I could browse the net ok Yes, this is SL #4255. In the second test, memory stick and modem plugged in before boot, I got to the connected display in the frame but the upload and download kB counters never updated past 0 even though I was browsing, the connected time did update ok. Interesting, thanks. Updated SL #4255. I've never seen data counters in 13.1.0 builds. I did not try without the memory stick. I think your tests show that Ajay's problem is likely to be unique to the pen-drive in use. Thanks for that. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised
Thanks, James/Tony. But that works, too, fine. The mobile icon plus the frame presence is ok. Another thing, though, that I have noticed is, With the 3G USB stick in, after Disconnec-ting and Remove-ing (with PM off) when I select Shut Down, it does not shut down normally. I have to Power off the system. XO 1.75 - 3.1, 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Regards, Jv On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:28 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:14:41AM +0530, RJV wrote: Hi James, I agree that the frame icon for the modem may not be present if power managament was enabled, The frame does work with the Power Management option unchecked. What does the frame icon for the modem mean? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/3G_Support An icon will be added to the frame when a modem is connected, and the user will be able to connect and disconnect from there. Also known as the GSM device palette. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/3G_Support/Share Since these mockups the icon has changed to a symbol for a mobile telephone. The palette has not changed much, if at all. Jv On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 2:51 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: That's not what Ajay said here: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2012-November/036409.html Ajay, can you confirm in the above posting that all power management was disabled? I agree that the frame icon for the modem may not be present if power managament was enabled, but I see that as a separate problem now. On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 05:20:45PM +0530, RJV wrote: As Jerry mentioned, the trick is to uncheck Power Management option under the Power options of the laptop. Otherwise, the scenarios outlined by Ajay can be reproduced. It seems the power supply to the USB ports do make a difference. Regards, Ravichandran J.V. On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:52 PM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: USB flash drive On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 06:08:26PM +1100, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: I repeated these tests Thanks! XO-1.75 and XO-4 OS14 Huawei E160E modem Imation 8GB memory stick Is this actually a Memory Stick or do you mean a USB flash drive? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_Stick Ajay said pen-drive, and I took that to mean a USB flash drive. I was unable to replicate the fault described by Ajay, the modem appeared in the frame, both plugged in after boot and before boot but for both laptops In the first test, memory stick and modem plugged in after boot, the frame never got past displaying connecting, even though I could browse the net ok Yes, this is SL #4255. In the second test, memory stick and modem plugged in before boot, I got to the connected display in the frame but the upload and download kB counters never updated past 0 even though I was browsing, the connected time did update ok. Interesting, thanks. Updated SL #4255. I've never seen data counters in 13.1.0 builds. I did not try without the memory stick. I think your tests show that Ajay's problem is likely to be unique to the pen-drive in use. Thanks for that. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised
(I don't know what 3.1 means). Linux version. I hope the terminology is correct! I will ask Ajay to do that (raise a ticket) on 13.1 build 14. I shall be meeting or talking with Ajay today. I will also check out if the Shut Down problem happens in Ajay's XO. Regards, Jv On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:46 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:31:16AM +0530, RJV wrote: Thanks, James/Tony. But that works, too, fine. The mobile icon plus the frame presence is ok. So you have tried but cannot reproduce the problem identified by Ajay, where the icon does not appear if (a) a USB flash drive is present at boot, and (b) the modem is present at boot? Or just not tried? I don't mind either way, I only seek to understand Ajay's problem. Another thing, though, that I have noticed is, With the 3G USB stick in, after Disconnec-ting and Remove-ing (with PM off) when I select Shut Down, it does not shut down normally. I have to Power off the system. Sounds very different problem. XO 1.75 - 3.1, 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, 12.1.0 build 21 is stable, current development is on 13.1.0 build 14, could you please reproduce this different problem with 13.1.0 build 14 and then raise a ticket? (I don't know what 3.1 means). -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ -- Regards, *Ravichandran J.V.* http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com XO 1.75 - 3.1, 12.1, 0.96, Build 21 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised
Yes, Ajay, it does happen the way you describe so what I do is make sure that I have the device plugged in before starting the XO otherwise, you need to restart the XO for it to recognize the device or you need to switch desktop and upon returning back to Sugar, the device would be recognized. Jv On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote: Hi all. I have been facing transient issues in getting the 3G-Modem recognised (via the appearence of the corresponding icon in the bottom-tray). There really is no fixed pattern; sometimes the icon appears when the modem is inserted; sometimes not. Same is the case when the XO is rebooted, while the modem is inserted. Upon booting, sometimes the icon appears; sometimes not. I don't remember such issues in 12.1.0; there, the icon appeared whenever it ought to. Is someone else too facing such transient issues; or am I the only one hit? Regards, Ajay Garg Dextrose Developer Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised
On the same topic, is anyone experienced with 3G connectivity on XO 1.5? Will it work? 3 G works fine with 1.75, 12.1, 0.96, Build 21. Regards, Jv On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Jerry Vonau je...@laptop.org.au wrote: On 20 November 2012 19:33, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote: Hi all. I have been facing transient issues in getting the 3G-Modem recognised (via the appearence of the corresponding icon in the bottom-tray). There really is no fixed pattern; sometimes the icon appears when the modem is inserted; sometimes not. Same is the case when the XO is rebooted, while the modem is inserted. Upon booting, sometimes the icon appears; sometimes not. Think the appearance of the icon in the frame would depend on if the XO was in a suspended state when inserted, try tapping a key or the mouse to wake the XO up. I'm seeing my modem being continuously re-detected when resuming from a suspended state while tailing /var/log/messages, I'd try disabling the power management in the control-panel to see if the situation improves. Jerry I don't remember such issues in 12.1.0; there, the icon appeared whenever it ought to. Is someone else too facing such transient issues; or am I the only one hit? Regards, Ajay Garg Dextrose Developer Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] XO 1.5 and 3G connectivity
Hi, Has anyone used 12.1, 0.96, Build 21 on XO 1.5 and the second part of the query is, does a 3G data card work on 1.5? Anyone with experience, please share. -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] XO 1.5 and 3G connectivity
Thanks, Jerry. James, it is a pre-emptive question. This may have to be tried on multiple XOs so had to be sure before purchasing them. I will update once it is done. Thanks. Regards, Jv On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:44 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: What happens when you try? On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 01:04:19AM +0530, RJV wrote: Hi, Has anyone used 12.1, 0.96, Build 21 on XO 1.5 and the second part of the query is, does a 3G data card work on 1.5? Anyone with experience, please share. -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] XO 1.5 and 3G connectivity
Yes, that is why I floated the question to see if there were any. Thanks. Regards, Jv On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:15 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Every device is different, it is impossible to predict the outcome, unless you are able to identify the exact device and find someone who has used it. On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:51:55AM +0530, RJV wrote: Thanks, Jerry. James, it is a pre-emptive question. This may have to be tried on multiple XOs so had to be sure before purchasing them. I will update once it is done. Thanks. Regards, Jv On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:44 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: What happens when you try? On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 01:04:19AM +0530, RJV wrote: Hi, Has anyone used 12.1, 0.96, Build 21 on XO 1.5 and the second part of the query is, does a 3G data card work on 1.5? Anyone with experience, please share. -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Renaming the Telescope activity to Scope
On the downloads page, the text seems to suggest a camera - This mode allows the user to view the live image stream from the camera. Furthermore following controls and settings can be set in this mode: * Capture the image * Change camera settings like Exposure, Brightness, Contrast etc. * Delay while capturing the image * Digitally zoom the live image by 1X, 2X, 3X and 4X Please clarify as this looks like an impressive activity and I would like to use it in demos. Anish, can you guide me offline on the types of telescope compatible etc? Thanks! Regards, Jv On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Anish Mangal an...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi, I have received requests that the Telescope activity [1] be renamed to Scope, since, off late it has been used in conjunction with not just a monocular, but small microscope attachments (the kind which were distributed at the SF summit). In that light, the name Telescope is no longer widely applicable to the set of applications it is used for. I could see Telescope and Microscope as two different activities in the future with different features. For eg, in the Telescope activity you could have: 1. Dark Frame Subtraction 2. High-Gain Noise Suppression 3. Enabling the camera's night-mode. 4. Crosshairs on the screen Right now, none of this exists, and I don't have the bandwidth to develop those features. So, until that happens, I support renaming the activity to Scope. Thoughts? [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4481 -- Anish | an...@sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Register XO
When I tried to Register my XO 1.75 Build 21, from the profile menu of Sugar, all the three times, the registration failed while I browsed ok so nothing wrong with the connectivity! Anything special expected to be done in Register-ing a XO and is it necessary to Register ? -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [POSSIBLY BROKEN FEATURE] Do 3G-Modem connections work in http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os5/xo-1.75/31005o2.zd ?
I am not sure about 13.1 but this download worked for me - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/12.1.0#XO-1.75 on 0.96 Sugar XO 1.75 C2 Build 21. Jv On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.comwrote: Kinda raising the priority of the issue. Just want to know, that does this feature work in general on http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os5/xo-1.75/31005o2.zd (or later) ? On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.comwrote: Hi all. I have been trying to get my 3G Idea Cellular modem working on http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os5/xo-1.75/31005o2.zd, and have not been successful. Please find attached the error message I get; and /var/log/messages file. Some notes :: a) I experience the exact same failure steps, while working on the sugar-build on Fedora-17, based on NM-0.9, on my laptop.. b) The modem DOES WORK FINE, in Gnome on Fedora-17, based on NM-0.9, on my laptop. c) The modem DOES WORK FINE, on a sugar-jhbuild on Fedora-14, based on NM-0.8, on my laptop. Please let me know if any other info is required. Regards, Ajay Garg Dextrose Developer Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Best way to use SD card to increase XO-1 space
Thanks for sharing the info, Roshan, and wish you the best with upgrading the XOs! On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Roshan Karki ros...@olenepal.org wrote: After many suggestions in email and over IRC I've decided to mount SD in /etc/fstab as /home partition. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:08 PM, RJV jv.ravichand...@gmail.com wrote: Ok :) On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Roshan Karki ros...@olenepal.orgwrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:40 AM, RJV jv.ravichand...@gmail.com wrote: What is your problem in upgrading? Problem with your network bandwidth? Some non technical reason. But this isn't the question I'm asking :) Jv On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Roshan Karki ros...@olenepal.orgwrote: We have around 4000 XO-1s deployed around the country but we are still stuck with Sugar .82.1 . We do have upgrade plan but not anytime soon. Our educational software EPaath has grown to whooping 503 MB and thus we are desperately in need of some space. We would want to test one mini deployment with SD card. So I'm wondering what the best way would be to use SD card to increase XO-1 storage. My initial idea is to softlink /home/olpc/Activities to SD card. Any comment, suggestion, feedback? Regards, Roshan Karki ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Best way to use SD card to increase XO-1 space
Ok :) On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Roshan Karki ros...@olenepal.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:40 AM, RJV jv.ravichand...@gmail.com wrote: What is your problem in upgrading? Problem with your network bandwidth? Some non technical reason. But this isn't the question I'm asking :) Jv On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Roshan Karki ros...@olenepal.orgwrote: We have around 4000 XO-1s deployed around the country but we are still stuck with Sugar .82.1 . We do have upgrade plan but not anytime soon. Our educational software EPaath has grown to whooping 503 MB and thus we are desperately in need of some space. We would want to test one mini deployment with SD card. So I'm wondering what the best way would be to use SD card to increase XO-1 storage. My initial idea is to softlink /home/olpc/Activities to SD card. Any comment, suggestion, feedback? Regards, Roshan Karki ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Best way to use SD card to increase XO-1 space
What is your problem in upgrading? Problem with your network bandwidth? Jv On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Roshan Karki ros...@olenepal.org wrote: We have around 4000 XO-1s deployed around the country but we are still stuck with Sugar .82.1 . We do have upgrade plan but not anytime soon. Our educational software EPaath has grown to whooping 503 MB and thus we are desperately in need of some space. We would want to test one mini deployment with SD card. So I'm wondering what the best way would be to use SD card to increase XO-1 storage. My initial idea is to softlink /home/olpc/Activities to SD card. Any comment, suggestion, feedback? Regards, Roshan Karki ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
