Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Labyrinth-7

2009-06-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote:
 Hi Simon,

 On 1 Jun 2009, at 13:06, Simon Schampijer wrote:

 On 05/31/2009 08:56 PM, Gary C Martin wrote:
 Hi folks,

 Latest version of Labyrinth, fresh out of the oven.

 == Source ==

 http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Labyrinth/Labyrinth-7.tar.bz2

 == Bundle ==

 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4078/

 == Wiki page ==

 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Labyrinth

 == News ==

 * Now supports Keep to PDF (Keep to PDF can be found under the
 Keep button), so you can now upload PDFs of your maps for non-Sugar
 users to view, or transfer them for easy printing.

 * Includes all the latest available language files, that covers at
 least Spanish, French, German, Greek, Italian, Kinyarwanda, Tamil,
 and
 I'm sure many more (it's hard to see the full list).

 Happy mind-mapping (tested on both XO-1 with 0.82, and sugar-jhbuild
 0.84)!

 Regards,
 --Gary

 Awesome, does work very nicely. I can export to PDF just fine. The
 labeling Keep to PDF - maybe as it is grouped under the keep
 button you only need to label it Postscript (PDF), as the Write
 activity is doing as well?

 lol :-) To keep it similar to Write I had been using Portable
 Document Format (PDF) as the string but thought it too ungainly, I'd
 just taken it out prior to release:

        
 http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/labyrinth/repos/mainline/commits/84c9f787d5490cc1fdfeae2a5ccd5ca57b1c2c96

 But your right, I just had a trigger finger on that change. I have a
 bunch more export formats to add in an upcoming release (PNG, JPG) so
 that menu will get larger anyway. I'll revert. :-)

I know I keep nagging about this, but at some point in the future I
hope we'll finally have menu section labels. I think the proper way to
handle export to various formats is to have a Keep as section label,
with one or more menu items in the format document format
(extension). So, in general I like Keep as better than Keep to
(I think this reads more naturally, and nods to the functinoality of a
save as operation on other desktops), and I think that spelling out
the format is a Good Thing, even if it's a little long in some cases,
since it's in the secondary menu anyway.

This makes it much nicer for many formats just as Plain text (TXT),
Rich Text (RTF), etc. I think showing the extension in paren is a
nice clarifier, and should be used unless it's used within the format
string because it's the canonical way to refer to that format, , as
in PNG Image, JPEG Image, perhaps.

It sounds like there should be a HIG section on this topic... Anyway,
I think Portable Document Format (PDF) might be best, myself.

Eben


 What I find a bit hard to find out from the interface is to use the
 right mouse click to move an item, or the windows-key+left mouse
 click to pan in the image. Hard to expose this as a button in the
 interface.

 Yes... Tell me about it... It's been a real fix'er'upper as far as the
 original GNOME Labyrinth UI 'design' (I use that word speculatively).
 Lot's of things I'd like to improve, but lots of spaghetti...

 Maybe it could be mentioned in the first 'click to add a first
 thought'-bubble that there is more info on the wiki?

 I set-up that 'click to add a first thought'-bubble to be part of a
 multi step help hint to get you going, the intent was once you added
 your first thought, you'd get some new help hint message telling you a
 few more tricks. Good idea, bad idea?

 Thanks for the test and feedback!

 Regards,
 --Gary

 Regards,
   Simon

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Labyrinth-7

2009-06-01 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/31/2009 08:56 PM, Gary C Martin wrote:
 Hi folks,

 Latest version of Labyrinth, fresh out of the oven.

 == Source ==

 http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Labyrinth/Labyrinth-7.tar.bz2

 == Bundle ==

 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4078/

 == Wiki page ==

 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Labyrinth

 == News ==

 * Now supports Keep to PDF (Keep to PDF can be found under the
 Keep button), so you can now upload PDFs of your maps for non-Sugar
 users to view, or transfer them for easy printing.

 * Includes all the latest available language files, that covers at
 least Spanish, French, German, Greek, Italian, Kinyarwanda, Tamil, and
 I'm sure many more (it's hard to see the full list).

 Happy mind-mapping (tested on both XO-1 with 0.82, and sugar-jhbuild
 0.84)!

 Regards,
 --Gary

Awesome, does work very nicely. I can export to PDF just fine. The 
labeling Keep to PDF - maybe as it is grouped under the keep button 
you only need to label it Postscript (PDF), as the Write activity is 
doing as well?

What I find a bit hard to find out from the interface is to use the 
right mouse click to move an item, or the windows-key+left mouse click 
to pan in the image. Hard to expose this as a button in the interface. 
Maybe it could be mentioned in the first 'click to add a first 
thought'-bubble that there is more info on the wiki?

Regards,
Simon



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Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Labyrinth-7

2009-06-01 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/01/2009 02:17 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 14:06, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de  wrote:
 On 05/31/2009 08:56 PM, Gary C Martin wrote:
 Hi folks,

 Latest version of Labyrinth, fresh out of the oven.

 == Source ==

 http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Labyrinth/Labyrinth-7.tar.bz2

 == Bundle ==

 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4078/

 == Wiki page ==

 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Labyrinth

 == News ==

 * Now supports Keep to PDF (Keep to PDF can be found under the
 Keep button), so you can now upload PDFs of your maps for non-Sugar
 users to view, or transfer them for easy printing.

 * Includes all the latest available language files, that covers at
 least Spanish, French, German, Greek, Italian, Kinyarwanda, Tamil, and
 I'm sure many more (it's hard to see the full list).

 Happy mind-mapping (tested on both XO-1 with 0.82, and sugar-jhbuild
 0.84)!

 Regards,
 --Gary
 Awesome, does work very nicely. I can export to PDF just fine. The
 labeling Keep to PDF -  maybe as it is grouped under the keep button
 you only need to label it Postscript (PDF), as the Write activity is
 doing as well?

 PS and PDF are two totally different formats from the user point of
 view. Where in Write we have the label Postscript (PDF)?

 Regards,

 Tomeu

Of course mixing pdf and postscript was not right from my side. Maybe 
someone has a better labeling here.

Thanks,
Simon

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[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Labyrinth-7

2009-05-31 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi folks,

Latest version of Labyrinth, fresh out of the oven.

== Source ==

http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Labyrinth/Labyrinth-7.tar.bz2

== Bundle ==

http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4078/

== Wiki page ==

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Labyrinth

== News ==

* Now supports Keep to PDF (Keep to PDF can be found under the  
Keep button), so you can now upload PDFs of your maps for non-Sugar  
users to view, or transfer them for easy printing.

* Includes all the latest available language files, that covers at  
least Spanish, French, German, Greek, Italian, Kinyarwanda, Tamil, and  
I'm sure many more (it's hard to see the full list).

Happy mind-mapping (tested on both XO-1 with 0.82, and sugar-jhbuild  
0.84)!

Regards,
--Gary

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