[Sugar-devel] ASLO Suggestion
The new style sheet for ASLO reminds me that something has bugged me about the design of the site from the beginning. The site does not do a good job of showing just how much is available. When you click on a category you see entries for three or four Activities, seemingly picked at random, and no indication that these Activities are not the only ones available in the category. Yes, there is a link to show everything in the category. It's not that you can't find anything if you really want to. It's that the site doesn't do a good job of selling what it has. What I would suggest is to put totals for each category in a prominent place on the page. When you first come into the site and no category is selected you should see something like "500 Great Activities Available!" Choose a category like Documents and the line would read "10 Activities In This Category." The other thing that has bugged me is the Recommended Activities. We need to put more thought into what gets recommended. Currently one of the Activities that is recommended is Read. Now an XO owner or SoaS user already has Read, so why recommend it? Is there some reason I should remove the Read I already have and install this one? Recommended Activities should promote Sugar. They should meet the following criteria: 1). Fairly robust. 2). Not included by default with anything. 3). Should do something interesting. Think of the iPhone commercials that show all the apps that are available. Why not recommend something like Food Force or Story Builder? I also question the category GCompris. I understand these Activities are related to each other, but the relationship would not be meaningful to a teacher or a student. A little salesmanship could go a long way in making this site better. James Simmons ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO Suggestion
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 09:50:31AM -0500, James Simmons wrote: > The new style sheet for ASLO reminds me that something has bugged me > about the design of the site from the beginning. The site does not do a > good job of showing just how much is available. When you click on a > category you see entries for three or four Activities, seemingly picked > at random, and no indication that these Activities are not the only ones > available in the category. Yes, there is a link to show everything in > the category. It's not that you can't find anything if you really want > to. It's that the site doesn't do a good job of selling what it has. > > What I would suggest is to put totals for each category in a prominent > place on the page. When you first come into the site and no category is > selected you should see something like "500 Great Activities > Available!" Choose a category like Documents and the line would read > "10 Activities In This Category." In my mind we can do something similar w/o patching upstream code much, now ASLO does this: * on the main page it shows 5(6) featured activities in "We Recommended" and 3 others in below list * in category list it shows "We Recommended"(if there are recommended activities in this category) and random list of 3 other activities in this category So, we can just increase amount of activities from 3 to 10(or so) http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/947 and instead of random list show list of featured activities http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/948 > The other thing that has bugged me is the Recommended Activities. We > need to put more thought into what gets recommended. Currently one of > the Activities that is recommended is Read. Now an XO owner or SoaS > user already has Read, so why recommend it? Is there some reason I > should remove the Read I already have and install this one? > > Recommended Activities should promote Sugar. They should meet the > following criteria: > > 1). Fairly robust. > 2). Not included by default with anything. > 3). Should do something interesting. Think of the iPhone commercials > that show all the apps that are available. Why not recommend something > like Food Force or Story Builder? You are an editor now and can do the best on http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/editors/featured ;) And after fixing #948 all featured activities will appear on main page and per category main pages. > I also question the category GCompris. I understand these Activities > are related to each other, but the relationship would not be meaningful > to a teacher or a student. fixed > > A little salesmanship could go a long way in making this site better. > > James Simmons > -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO Suggestion
Aleksey, That will teach me to open my mouth. At the moment the only Activities I'm really familiar with are my own, Read, and your Library Activity which isn't finished (but would definitely be worthy otherwise). I'll have to add some more Activities to my XO and give them a try. Any suggestions on what might be worth a recommended status will be welcomed. Your other ideas sound good, but I still think we need some highly visible counts in there. As someone once said, "You gotta tell 'em to sell 'em!" Thanks, James Simmons Aleksey Lim wrote: You are an editor now and can do the best on http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/editors/featured ;) And after fixing #948 all featured activities will appear on main page and per category main pages. I also question the category GCompris. I understand these Activities are related to each other, but the relationship would not be meaningful to a teacher or a student. fixed ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO Suggestion
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 12:09:56PM -0500, James Simmons wrote: > Aleksey, > > That will teach me to open my mouth. :) > At the moment the only Activities > I'm really familiar with are my own, Read, and your Library Activity > which isn't finished (but would definitely be worthy otherwise). I'll > have to add some more Activities to my XO and give them a try. Any > suggestions on what might be worth a recommended status will be welcomed. well, we have not so much sugar activities on ASLO(I hope just for now) ..and I guess we should add some kind of filter to separate native sugar activities from GCompris, now we have 40 vs. 100 :) > Your other ideas sound good, but I still think we need some highly > visible counts in there. As someone once said, "You gotta tell 'em to > sell 'em!" the problem is - we depend on upstream AMO code, so patching ASLO code a lot will mean problems while merging new AMO commits (we can suggest our changes directly to AMO but thats another story). > > Thanks, > > James Simmons > > > Aleksey Lim wrote: >> You are an editor now and can do the best on >> http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/editors/featured ;) >> >> And after fixing #948 all featured activities will appear on main page >> and per category main pages. >> >> >>> I also question the category GCompris. I understand these Activities >>> are related to each other, but the relationship would not be >>> meaningful to a teacher or a student. >>> >> fixed -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO Suggestion
I recommend u take a look at the openSUSE offering. I took a careful look at the activities available and packaged those that seemed useful, relatively bug free, and fun. I think we have about 55 activities now. kind Regards, David (nubae) Van Assche On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:09 PM, James Simmons wrote: > Aleksey, > > That will teach me to open my mouth. At the moment the only Activities I'm > really familiar with are my own, Read, and your Library Activity which isn't > finished (but would definitely be worthy otherwise). I'll have to add some > more Activities to my XO and give them a try. Any suggestions on what might > be worth a recommended status will be welcomed. > > Your other ideas sound good, but I still think we need some highly visible > counts in there. As someone once said, "You gotta tell 'em to sell 'em!" > > Thanks, > > James Simmons > > > Aleksey Lim wrote: > > You are an editor now and can do the best > onhttp://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/editors/featured ;) > > And after fixing #948 all featured activities will appear on main page > and per category main pages. > > > > I also question the category GCompris. I understand these Activities > are related to each other, but the relationship would not be meaningful > to a teacher or a student. > > > fixed > > > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
