Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposing backup/restore as feature for 0.102
Hello Gonzalo, I created this wiki page with some RAW thoughts about things we can consider for improving [1]. Saludos, tch Refs: 1. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Backup_and_Restore/Enhancementhttp://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Backup_and_Restore/Enhancements#Difficulties s On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: One of the features we want upstream is Backup/Restore of the Journal. There are already a page for this feature [1] but the currently only is implemented the backup/restore to a connected device (pen drive), and not to/from the school server. I did the port to Sugar 0.100 of the code in dextrose, (patches [2] and [3]) but still think need more work before pushing upstream. Here my comments/questions: * Right now, the access to backup/restore functionality is available in the menu of the connected device (see [4]). May be should be in the Journal button, to allow other destinations in the future, like google drive/dropbox/etc? Or should be as a option in the control panel? (If the control panel is only for configuration this may be not the right place) * The screen look alien [5]. Should be better if we add a toolbar or should be in a modal dialog similar to the control panel/ object chooser? * We need a better icon. * The actual implementation have scripts to backup/restore from the command line. Then the sugar code execute the scripts, and the scripts execute tar. Is needed this indirection or should be better call tar from sugar? This implementation can be tested in our AU images [6] Comments? Gonzalo [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Backup_and_Restore [2] https://github.com/godiard/au1b_rpms/blob/master/sugar/0001-Backup-and-Restore-to-a-mounted-device.patch [3] https://github.com/godiard/au1b_rpms/blob/master/sugar/0001-Fix-backup-restore-functionality-SL-4616.patch [4] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Backup_usb_menu.png [5] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Backup_before.png [6] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=0.100/Testing ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposing backup/restore as feature for 0.102
Thanks Martin, good job. looking forward to work with you in this topic. I have added a few comments. Gonzalo PS: Probably I will not be available the next two days On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Gonzalo, I created this wiki page with some RAW thoughts about things we can consider for improving [1]. Saludos, tch Refs: 1. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Backup_and_Restore/Enhancementhttp://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Backup_and_Restore/Enhancements#Difficulties s On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.orgwrote: One of the features we want upstream is Backup/Restore of the Journal. There are already a page for this feature [1] but the currently only is implemented the backup/restore to a connected device (pen drive), and not to/from the school server. I did the port to Sugar 0.100 of the code in dextrose, (patches [2] and [3]) but still think need more work before pushing upstream. Here my comments/questions: * Right now, the access to backup/restore functionality is available in the menu of the connected device (see [4]). May be should be in the Journal button, to allow other destinations in the future, like google drive/dropbox/etc? Or should be as a option in the control panel? (If the control panel is only for configuration this may be not the right place) * The screen look alien [5]. Should be better if we add a toolbar or should be in a modal dialog similar to the control panel/ object chooser? * We need a better icon. * The actual implementation have scripts to backup/restore from the command line. Then the sugar code execute the scripts, and the scripts execute tar. Is needed this indirection or should be better call tar from sugar? This implementation can be tested in our AU images [6] Comments? Gonzalo [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Backup_and_Restore [2] https://github.com/godiard/au1b_rpms/blob/master/sugar/0001-Backup-and-Restore-to-a-mounted-device.patch [3] https://github.com/godiard/au1b_rpms/blob/master/sugar/0001-Fix-backup-restore-functionality-SL-4616.patch [4] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Backup_usb_menu.png [5] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Backup_before.png [6] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=0.100/Testing ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposing backup/restore as feature for 0.102
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: Thanks Martin, good job. looking forward to work with you in this topic. I have added a few comments. Me too. Gonzalo PS: Probably I will not be available the next two days Me too. BTW, started writing up some notes on the new features for testing [1]. We need to write up how to do that testing. -walter [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.100/Testing#New_features_to_test On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Gonzalo, I created this wiki page with some RAW thoughts about things we can consider for improving [1]. Saludos, tch Refs: 1. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Backup_and_Restore/Enhancements On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: One of the features we want upstream is Backup/Restore of the Journal. There are already a page for this feature [1] but the currently only is implemented the backup/restore to a connected device (pen drive), and not to/from the school server. I did the port to Sugar 0.100 of the code in dextrose, (patches [2] and [3]) but still think need more work before pushing upstream. Here my comments/questions: * Right now, the access to backup/restore functionality is available in the menu of the connected device (see [4]). May be should be in the Journal button, to allow other destinations in the future, like google drive/dropbox/etc? Or should be as a option in the control panel? (If the control panel is only for configuration this may be not the right place) * The screen look alien [5]. Should be better if we add a toolbar or should be in a modal dialog similar to the control panel/ object chooser? * We need a better icon. * The actual implementation have scripts to backup/restore from the command line. Then the sugar code execute the scripts, and the scripts execute tar. Is needed this indirection or should be better call tar from sugar? This implementation can be tested in our AU images [6] Comments? Gonzalo [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Backup_and_Restore [2] https://github.com/godiard/au1b_rpms/blob/master/sugar/0001-Backup-and-Restore-to-a-mounted-device.patch [3] https://github.com/godiard/au1b_rpms/blob/master/sugar/0001-Fix-backup-restore-functionality-SL-4616.patch [4] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Backup_usb_menu.png [5] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Backup_before.png [6] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=0.100/Testing ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposing backup/restore as feature for 0.102
The level of indirection was added because it used different backup mechanisms, IE: to the XS (via dsd's rsync scripts) and to memory sticks. Not sure who else is using dsd's scripts, other than Paraguay though. On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: One of the features we want upstream is Backup/Restore of the Journal. There are already a page for this feature [1] but the currently only is implemented the backup/restore to a connected device (pen drive), and not to/from the school server. I did the port to Sugar 0.100 of the code in dextrose, (patches [2] and [3]) but still think need more work before pushing upstream. Here my comments/questions: * Right now, the access to backup/restore functionality is available in the menu of the connected device (see [4]). May be should be in the Journal button, to allow other destinations in the future, like google drive/dropbox/etc? Or should be as a option in the control panel? (If the control panel is only for configuration this may be not the right place) * The screen look alien [5]. Should be better if we add a toolbar or should be in a modal dialog similar to the control panel/ object chooser? * We need a better icon. * The actual implementation have scripts to backup/restore from the command line. Then the sugar code execute the scripts, and the scripts execute tar. Is needed this indirection or should be better call tar from sugar? This implementation can be tested in our AU images [6] Comments? Gonzalo [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Backup_and_Restore [2] https://github.com/godiard/au1b_rpms/blob/master/sugar/0001-Backup-and-Restore-to-a-mounted-device.patch [3] https://github.com/godiard/au1b_rpms/blob/master/sugar/0001-Fix-backup-restore-functionality-SL-4616.patch [4] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Backup_usb_menu.png [5] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Backup_before.png [6] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=0.100/Testing ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposing backup/restore as feature for 0.102
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: One of the features we want upstream is Backup/Restore of the Journal. There are already a page for this feature [1] but the currently only is implemented the backup/restore to a connected device (pen drive), and not to/from the school server. I did the port to Sugar 0.100 of the code in dextrose, (patches [2] and [3]) but still think need more work before pushing upstream. Here my comments/questions: * Right now, the access to backup/restore functionality is available in the menu of the connected device (see [4]). May be should be in the Journal button, to allow other destinations in the future, like google drive/dropbox/etc? Or should be as a option in the control panel? (If the control panel is only for configuration this may be not the right place) * The screen look alien [5]. Should be better if we add a toolbar or should be in a modal dialog similar to the control panel/ object chooser? * We need a better icon. * The actual implementation have scripts to backup/restore from the command line. Then the sugar code execute the scripts, and the scripts execute tar. Is needed this indirection or should be better call tar from sugar? This implementation can be tested in our AU images [6] Comments? Perfect. Cleaning up the Dextrose patches and included them in mainline Sugar is an excellent way of adding value: 1. The patches represent feedback from deployments in the form of issues they felt were important enough to pay to fix. 2. The patches are often limited in their scoop due to deployment budget restraints. 3. After a clean up, they will be available to anyone using Sugar. Gonzalo [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Backup_and_Restore [2] https://github.com/godiard/au1b_rpms/blob/master/sugar/0001-Backup-and-Restore-to-a-mounted-device.patch [3] https://github.com/godiard/au1b_rpms/blob/master/sugar/0001-Fix-backup-restore-functionality-SL-4616.patch [4] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Backup_usb_menu.png [5] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Backup_before.png [6] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=0.100/Testing ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- David Farning Activity Central: http://www.activitycentral.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
