Re: [Sugar-devel] Testing alias
Hello Sebastian, The reason why i was able to access the list was because Walter made one of the committee members. About spykidacu...@outlook.com, is a volunteer in Sugar Labs and also his in my Sugar Labs team in Nigeria, which Walter know of. I don't understand why you have to remove me in the membership committee, that i don't understand. Is there any way i shouldn't be in the membership committee?. About the local backup i thing is a great idea. Hoping on hearing from you soon. Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 22:49:07 -0500 From: sebast...@fuentelibre.org To: memb...@sugarlabs.org Subject: Testing alias Hello Caryl, Bernie, Walter, At this time members@sugarlabs forwards to the 4 of us. This email is to test this redirection. I found samsongoddy in the aliases for members, and removed him because he isn't in the membership committee, that I know of. I also found samsongoddy, luke, and spykidacu...@outlook.com have write access to the membership list spreadsheet. Luke is the owner of the file so there is no way to remove him (and if he closes his google account, possibly we loose the membership list). I think in the future we should move this list at least to a different account, or ideally put it on our own infrastructure. I've made a local backup in OpenDocument format, just in case. Anyway, we are ready now to begin surveying / voting. Also Caryl and I can process new membership requests. We will be communicating about an initial survey soon. Next I'll edit the Committee wiki page. Regards, Sebastian -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nadie libera a nadie, nadie se libera solo. Los seres humanos se liberan en comunión - P. Freire ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Testing alias
I did not realize that all volunteers on the teams need vetting by SLOB. If so it is a bad precident. On May 6, 2015 10:05 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: On 06/05/15 03:37, samson goddy wrote: The reason why i was able to access the list was because Walter made one of the committee members. About spykidacu...@outlook.com spykidacu...@outlook.com, is a volunteer in Sugar Labs and also his in my Sugar Labs team in Nigeria, which Walter know of. 1. Sugar Labs is _not_ Walter. Make sure the engage the rest of Sugar Labs. Nice to meet you. I was not aware of any other active members appointed by SLOBs. (And I did ask). Was your appointment announced sometime publicly? I don't understand why you have to remove me in the membership committee, that i don't understand. Is there any way i shouldn't be in the membership committee? 2. Sure. We have a process which is in the Governance page http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance. I volunteered to the committee because there had been 2 years without elections and never have there been a survey to keep the membership list current. These are the main responsibilities of the Election and Membership committee. We'd be glad to have you. In short, do this: - Read the governance / membership committee pages - Write to SLOBS requesting to be a member - Wait for a vote For us (Caryl and me), it took almost 2 months to be confirmed, official member of election committee. However, in that opportunity, SLOBS voted that they would solicit help from young members so maybe they will be more expedite for you. Thanks and good luck! Sebastian -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nadie libera a nadie, nadie se libera solo. Los seres humanos se liberan en comunión - P. Freire ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Testing alias
On 06/05/15 03:37, samson goddy wrote: The reason why i was able to access the list was because Walter made one of the committee members. About spykidacu...@outlook.com, is a volunteer in Sugar Labs and also his in my Sugar Labs team in Nigeria, which Walter know of. 1. Sugar Labs is _not_ Walter. Make sure the engage the rest of Sugar Labs. Nice to meet you. I was not aware of any other active members appointed by SLOBs. (And I did ask). Was your appointment announced sometime publicly? I don't understand why you have to remove me in the membership committee, that i don't understand. Is there any way i shouldn't be in the membership committee? 2. Sure. We have a process which is in the Governance page http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance. I volunteered to the committee because there had been 2 years without elections and never have there been a survey to keep the membership list current. These are the main responsibilities of the Election and Membership committee. We'd be glad to have you. In short, do this: - Read the governance / membership committee pages - Write to SLOBS requesting to be a member - Wait for a vote For us (Caryl and me), it took almost 2 months to be confirmed, official member of election committee. However, in that opportunity, SLOBS voted that they would solicit help from young members so maybe they will be more expedite for you. Thanks and good luck! Sebastian -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nadie libera a nadie, nadie se libera solo. Los seres humanos se liberan en comunión - P. Freire ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Testing alias
Hi Walter, Membership Committee is not a Team. It is a committee, and it needs vetting by SLOBs according to the Governance page http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance. Neither you or I have the authority to accept samsongoddy, as I read it. Regards, Sebastian On 06/05/15 09:13, Walter Bender wrote: I did not realize that all volunteers on the teams need vetting by SLOB. If so it is a bad precident. On May 6, 2015 10:05 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org mailto:sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: On 06/05/15 03:37, samson goddy wrote: The reason why i was able to access the list was because Walter made one of the committee members. About spykidacu...@outlook.com mailto:spykidacu...@outlook.com, is a volunteer in Sugar Labs and also his in my Sugar Labs team in Nigeria, which Walter know of. 1. Sugar Labs is _not_ Walter. Make sure the engage the rest of Sugar Labs. Nice to meet you. I was not aware of any other active members appointed by SLOBs. (And I did ask). Was your appointment announced sometime publicly? I don't understand why you have to remove me in the membership committee, that i don't understand. Is there any way i shouldn't be in the membership committee? 2. Sure. We have a process which is in the Governance page http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance. I volunteered to the committee because there had been 2 years without elections and never have there been a survey to keep the membership list current. These are the main responsibilities of the Election and Membership committee. We'd be glad to have you. In short, do this: - Read the governance / membership committee pages - Write to SLOBS requesting to be a member - Wait for a vote For us (Caryl and me), it took almost 2 months to be confirmed, official member of election committee. However, in that opportunity, SLOBS voted that they would solicit help from young members so maybe they will be more expedite for you. Thanks and good luck! Sebastian -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nadie libera a nadie, nadie se libera solo. Los seres humanos se liberan en comunión - P. Freire ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nadie libera a nadie, nadie se libera solo. Los seres humanos se liberan en comunión - P. Freire ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Testing alias
+1 To Samson. I remember we explicitly proposed add one more member to the committee, and Walter proposed try include a young hacker. Gonzalo On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Adam Holt h...@laptop.org wrote: +1 to Samson Goddy even if the Nigerian govt did not allow me to meet him during my less than 48hrs in country February (due to a more famous Goodluck/Badluck election ;) The following page says the Membership and Elections Committee can be emailed via elections at sugarlabs.org : http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance/Membership Is this still true? On May 6, 2015 12:17 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: Hi Walter, Membership Committee is not a Team. It is a committee, and it needs vetting by SLOBs according to the Governance page. Neither you or I have the authority to accept samsongoddy, as I read it. I am not sure what passage you are referring to, but I can assure you that it was never the intention of the oversight committee to micro-manage. In any case, I'll ask the committee, CC'd here, to vote on Samson's membership to the membership committee and we can perhaps discuss how to get us out of the micromanagement business at the June meeting. SLOB members, please let me know your vote re allowing Samson to join the membership committee. For those of you who don't know Samson, he is an active member of the community who has contributed some activities, e.g., [1] organized the Igbo translation team, and contributes often to the SL Facebook page. He was also a participant in Google Code-in 2014. regards. -walter [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4758 Regards, Sebastian On 06/05/15 09:13, Walter Bender wrote: I did not realize that all volunteers on the teams need vetting by SLOB. If so it is a bad precident. On May 6, 2015 10:05 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: On 06/05/15 03:37, Samson Goddy wrote: The reason why i was able to access the list was because Walter made one of the committee members. About spykidacu...@outlook.com, is a volunteer in Sugar Labs and also his in my Sugar Labs team in Nigeria, which Walter know of. 1. Sugar Labs is _not_ Walter. Make sure the engage the rest of Sugar Labs. Nice to meet you. I was not aware of any other active members appointed by SLOBs. (And I did ask). Was your appointment announced sometime publicly? I don't understand why you have to remove me in the membership committee, that i don't understand. Is there any way i shouldn't be in the membership committee? 2. Sure. We have a process which is in the Governance page. I volunteered to the committee because there had been 2 years without elections and never have there been a survey to keep the membership list current. These are the main responsibilities of the Election and Membership committee. We'd be glad to have you. In short, do this: - Read the governance / membership committee pages - Write to SLOBS requesting to be a member - Wait for a vote For us (Caryl and me), it took almost 2 months to be confirmed, official member of election committee. However, in that opportunity, SLOBS voted that they would solicit help from young members so maybe they will be more expedite for you. Thanks and good luck! Sebastian -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nobody liberates anybody, nobody is released only humans are released into communion. - P. Freire ___ Sugar-devel mailing listSugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.orghttp:// lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nobody liberates anybody, nobody is released only humans are released into communion. - P. Freire -- Walter Bender Sugar Labshttp://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Testing alias
+1 to Samson who seeks a more active presence for SL on social media. Sean. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: +1 To Samson. I remember we explicitly proposed add one more member to the committee, and Walter proposed try include a young hacker. Gonzalo On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Adam Holt h...@laptop.org wrote: +1 to Samson Goddy even if the Nigerian govt did not allow me to meet him during my less than 48hrs in country February (due to a more famous Goodluck/Badluck election ;) The following page says the Membership and Elections Committee can be emailed via elections at sugarlabs.org : http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance/Membership Is this still true? On May 6, 2015 12:17 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: Hi Walter, Membership Committee is not a Team. It is a committee, and it needs vetting by SLOBs according to the Governance page. Neither you or I have the authority to accept samsongoddy, as I read it. I am not sure what passage you are referring to, but I can assure you that it was never the intention of the oversight committee to micro-manage. In any case, I'll ask the committee, CC'd here, to vote on Samson's membership to the membership committee and we can perhaps discuss how to get us out of the micromanagement business at the June meeting. SLOB members, please let me know your vote re allowing Samson to join the membership committee. For those of you who don't know Samson, he is an active member of the community who has contributed some activities, e.g., [1] organized the Igbo translation team, and contributes often to the SL Facebook page. He was also a participant in Google Code-in 2014. regards. -walter [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4758 Regards, Sebastian On 06/05/15 09:13, Walter Bender wrote: I did not realize that all volunteers on the teams need vetting by SLOB. If so it is a bad precident. On May 6, 2015 10:05 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: On 06/05/15 03:37, Samson Goddy wrote: The reason why i was able to access the list was because Walter made one of the committee members. About spykidacu...@outlook.com, is a volunteer in Sugar Labs and also his in my Sugar Labs team in Nigeria, which Walter know of. 1. Sugar Labs is _not_ Walter. Make sure the engage the rest of Sugar Labs. Nice to meet you. I was not aware of any other active members appointed by SLOBs. (And I did ask). Was your appointment announced sometime publicly? I don't understand why you have to remove me in the membership committee, that i don't understand. Is there any way i shouldn't be in the membership committee? 2. Sure. We have a process which is in the Governance page. I volunteered to the committee because there had been 2 years without elections and never have there been a survey to keep the membership list current. These are the main responsibilities of the Election and Membership committee. We'd be glad to have you. In short, do this: - Read the governance / membership committee pages - Write to SLOBS requesting to be a member - Wait for a vote For us (Caryl and me), it took almost 2 months to be confirmed, official member of election committee. However, in that opportunity, SLOBS voted that they would solicit help from young members so maybe they will be more expedite for you. Thanks and good luck! Sebastian -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nobody liberates anybody, nobody is released only humans are released into communion. - P. Freire ___ Sugar-devel mailing listSugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.orghttp:// lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nobody liberates anybody, nobody is released only humans are released into communion. - P. Freire -- Walter Bender Sugar Labshttp://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Testing alias
On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: Hi Walter, Membership Committee is not a Team. It is a committee, and it needs vetting by SLOBs according to the Governance page http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance. Neither you or I have the authority to accept samsongoddy, as I read it. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance I am not sure what passage you are referring to, but I can assure you that it was never the intention of the oversight committee to micro-manage. In any case, I'll ask the committee, CC'd here, to vote on Samson's membership to the membership committee and we can perhaps discuss how to get us out of the micromanagement business at the June meeting. SLOB members, please let me know your vote re allowing Samson to join the membership committee. For those of you who don't know Samson, he is an active member of the community who has contributed some activities, e.g., [1] organized the Igbo translation team, and contributes often to the SL Facebook page. He was also a participant in Google Code-in 2014. regards. -walter [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4758 Regards, Sebastian On 06/05/15 09:13, Walter Bender wrote: I did not realize that all volunteers on the teams need vetting by SLOB. If so it is a bad precident. On May 6, 2015 10:05 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: On 06/05/15 03:37, Samson Goddy wrote: The reason why i was able to access the list was because Walter made one of the committee members. About spykidacu...@outlook.com spykidacu...@outlook.com, is a volunteer in Sugar Labs and also his in my Sugar Labs team in Nigeria, which Walter know of. 1. Sugar Labs is _not_ Walter. Make sure the engage the rest of Sugar Labs. Nice to meet you. I was not aware of any other active members appointed by SLOBs. (And I did ask). Was your appointment announced sometime publicly? I don't understand why you have to remove me in the membership committee, that i don't understand. Is there any way i shouldn't be in the membership committee? 2. Sure. We have a process which is in the Governance page http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance. I volunteered to the committee because there had been 2 years without elections and never have there been a survey to keep the membership list current. These are the main responsibilities of the Election and Membership committee. We'd be glad to have you. In short, do this: - Read the governance / membership committee pages - Write to SLOBS requesting to be a member - Wait for a vote For us (Caryl and me), it took almost 2 months to be confirmed, official member of election committee. However, in that opportunity, SLOBS voted that they would solicit help from young members so maybe they will be more expedite for you. Thanks and good luck! Sebastian -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nobody liberates anybody, nobody is released only humans are released into communion. - P. Freire ___ Sugar-devel mailing listSugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs. Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.orgorg Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/ http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devellistinfo/sugar-devel http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nobody liberates anybody, nobody is released only humans are released into communion. - P. Freire -- Walter Bender Sugar Labshttp://www.sugarlabs.org http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Testing alias
Thanks guys for voting me back to the committee, I am really happy right now because these shows that i have good people watching my back for me. To Sebastian, all i have to say that you were doing your work and i am really proud to know you. Also it's will be my pleasure working with you in future. I really love this organization because it feels like a family to me and i am happy that i am a member today and after my exams i will be 100% available for this org. Thanks Samson Goddy From: sdaly...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 20:31:39 +0200 To: godi...@sugarlabs.org; sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org CC: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org; cbige...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Testing alias +1 to Samson who seeks a more active presence for SL on social media. Sean. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: +1 To Samson. I remember we explicitly proposed add one more member to the committee,and Walter proposed try include a young hacker. Gonzalo On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Adam Holt h...@laptop.org wrote: +1 to Samson Goddy even if the Nigerian govt did not allow me to meet him during my less than 48hrs in country February (due to a more famous Goodluck/Badluck election ;) The following page says the Membership and Elections Committee can be emailed via elections at sugarlabs.org : http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance/Membership Is this still true? On May 6, 2015 12:17 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: Hi Walter, Membership Committee is not a Team. It is a committee, and it needs vetting by SLOBs according to the Governance page. Neither you or I have the authority to accept samsongoddy, as I read it. I am not sure what passage you are referring to, but I can assure you that it was never the intention of the oversight committee to micro-manage. In any case, I'll ask the committee, CC'd here, to vote on Samson's membership to the membership committee and we can perhaps discuss how to get us out of the micromanagement business at the June meeting. SLOB members, please let me know your vote re allowing Samson to join the membership committee. For those of you who don't know Samson, he is an active member of the community who has contributed some activities, e.g., [1] organized the Igbo translation team, and contributes often to the SL Facebook page. He was also a participant in Google Code-in 2014. regards. -walter [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4758 Regards, Sebastian On 06/05/15 09:13, Walter Bender wrote: I did not realize that all volunteers on the teams need vetting by SLOB. If so it is a bad precident. On May 6, 2015 10:05 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: On 06/05/15 03:37, Samson Goddy wrote: The reason why i was able to access the list was because Walter made one of the committee members. About spykidacu...@outlook.com, is a volunteer in Sugar Labs and also his in my Sugar Labs team in Nigeria, which Walter know of. 1. Sugar Labs is _not_ Walter. Make sure the engage the rest of Sugar Labs. Nice to meet you. I was not aware of any other active members appointed by SLOBs. (And I did ask). Was your appointment announced sometime publicly? I don't understand why you have to remove me in the membership committee, that i don't understand. Is there any way i shouldn't be in the membership committee? 2. Sure. We have a process which is in the Governance page. I volunteered to the committee because there had been 2 years without elections and never have there been a survey to keep the membership list current. These are the main responsibilities of the Election and Membership committee. We'd be glad to have you. In short, do this: - Read the governance / membership committee pages - Write to SLOBS requesting to be a member - Wait for a vote For us (Caryl and me), it took almost 2 months to be confirmed, official member of election committee. However, in that opportunity, SLOBS voted that they would solicit help from young members so maybe they will be more expedite for you. Thanks and good luck! Sebastian -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nobody liberates anybody, nobody is released only humans are released into communion. - P. Freire ___ Sugar-devel mailing listSugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.orghttp://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nobody liberates anybody, nobody is released only humans are released into communion. - P. Freire -- Walter Bender Sugar Labshttp://www.sugarlabs.org
Re: [Sugar-devel] Testing alias
On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: +1 To Samson. I remember we explicitly proposed add one more member to the committee, and Walter proposed try include a young hacker. Yes. I recall the discussion. When I finish creating the Decisions page in the wiki, it will be easier to track these things. +1 from me as well. So we have the necessary 4 votes. Samson, welcome (again) to the Membership Committee. regards. -walter Gonzalo On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Adam Holt h...@laptop.org wrote: +1 to Samson Goddy even if the Nigerian govt did not allow me to meet him during my less than 48hrs in country February (due to a more famous Goodluck/Badluck election ;) The following page says the Membership and Elections Committee can be emailed via elections at sugarlabs.org :http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/ http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance/Membership Sugar_Labs/Governance/ http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance/MembershipMembership http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance/Membership http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance/Membership Is this still true? On May 6, 2015 12:17 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: Hi Walter, Membership Committee is not a Team. It is a committee, and it needs vetting by SLOBs according to the Governance page. Neither you or I have the authority to accept samsongoddy, as I read it. I am not sure what passage you are referring to, but I can assure you that it was never the intention of the oversight committee to micro-manage. In any case, I'll ask the committee, CC'd here, to vote on Samson's membership to the membership committee and we can perhaps discuss how to get us out of the micromanagement business at the June meeting. SLOB members, please let me know your vote re allowing Samson to join the membership committee. For those of you who don't know Samson, he is an active member of the community who has contributed some activities, e.g., [1] organized the Igbo translation team, and contributes often to the SL Facebook page. He was also a participant in Google Code-in 2014. regards. -walter [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4758 Regards, Sebastian On 06/05/15 09:13, Walter Bender wrote: I did not realize that all volunteers on the teams need vetting by SLOB. If so it is a bad precident. On May 6, 2015 10:05 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: On 06/05/15 03:37, Samson Goddy wrote: The reason why i was able to access the list was because Walter made one of the committee members. About spykidacu...@outlook.com, is a volunteer in Sugar Labs and also his in my Sugar Labs team in Nigeria, which Walter know of. 1. Sugar Labs is _not_ Walter. Make sure the engage the rest of Sugar Labs. Nice to meet you. I was not aware of any other active members appointed by SLOBs. (And I did ask). Was your appointment announced sometime publicly? I don't understand why you have to remove me in the membership committee, that i don't understand. Is there any way i shouldn't be in the membership committee? 2. Sure. We have a process which is in the Governance page. I volunteered to the committee because there had been 2 years without elections and never have there been a survey to keep the membership list current. These are the main responsibilities of the Election and Membership committee. We'd be glad to have you. In short, do this: - Read the governance / membership committee pages - Write to SLOBS requesting to be a member - Wait for a vote For us (Caryl and me), it took almost 2 months to be confirmed, official member of election committee. However, in that opportunity, SLOBS voted that they would solicit help from young members so maybe they will be more expedite for you. Thanks and good luck! Sebastian -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nobody liberates anybody, nobody is released only humans are released into communion. - P. Freire ___ Sugar-devel mailing listSugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.orghttp://lists. sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nobody liberates anybody, nobody is released only humans are released into communion. - P. Freire -- Walter Bender Sugar Labshttp://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing listSugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs. Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.orgorg Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
Re: [Sugar-devel] Testing alias
On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: I'm glad SLOBs is able to vote over email. I haven't seen that in a while. Welcome samson. We'll include you in our dialogue about elections and members, and add you again to the email alias. In response to Walter, and Adam below that: On 06/05/15 12:02, Walter Bender wrote: I am not sure what passage you are referring to, but I can assure you that it was never the intention of the oversight committee to micro-manage. In any case, I'll ask the committee, CC'd here, to vote on Samson's membership to the membership committee and we can perhaps discuss how to get us out of the micromanagement business at the June meeting. I find this paragraph confusing. You ask, and cc the committee to vote, but then SLOBs vote, which then you accept as valid. I accept as valid as well, but, nevertheless, I'm not sure this was your intention. My intention was to cut through the red tape and get Samson onto the committee. I don't believe the vote was necessary, but since you were insistent that our by laws required it, I proceeded down that path. I hope to clear up any ambiguity in our by laws at the next meeting (1 June). For those of you who don't know Samson, he is an active member of the community who has contributed some activities, e.g., [1] organized the Igbo translation team, and contributes often to the SL Facebook page. He was also a participant in Google Code-in 2014. regards. -walter [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4758 I hate to be the one to bring this up, but I think [1] does not comply with ASLO policy because there is no source code [2] that can be read. [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/ http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Editors/Reviewing_Guide#Is_the_code_obfuscated.3F Activity_Library/Editors/ http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Editors/Reviewing_Guide#Is_the_code_obfuscated.3F Reviewing_Guide#Is_the_code_ http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Editors/Reviewing_Guide#Is_the_code_obfuscated.3F obfuscated.3F http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Editors/Reviewing_Guide#Is_the_code_obfuscated.3F On 06/05/15 11:40, Adam Holt wrote: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Editors/Reviewing_Guide#Is_the_code_obfuscated.3F +1 to Samson Goddy even if the Nigerian govt did not allow me to meet him during my less than 48hrs in country February (due to a more famous Goodluck/Badluck election ;) The following page says the Membership and Elections Committee can be emailed via elections at sugarlabs.org : http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/ http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance/Membership Sugar_Labs/Governance/ http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance/MembershipMembership http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance/Membership Is this still true? http://sugarlabs.org http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance/Membership It wasn't the case, but I've just set it up to redirect to members@sugarlabs which currently reaches samsongoddy, me, caryl, walter and bernie. -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nobody liberates anybody, nobody is released only humans are released into communion. - P. Freire -- Walter Bender Sugar Labshttp://www.sugarlabs.org http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Testing alias
I'm glad SLOBs is able to vote over email. I haven't seen that in a while. Welcome samson. We'll include you in our dialogue about elections and members, and add you again to the email alias. In response to Walter, and Adam below that: On 06/05/15 12:02, Walter Bender wrote: I am not sure what passage you are referring to, but I can assure you that it was never the intention of the oversight committee to micro-manage. In any case, I'll ask the committee, CC'd here, to vote on Samson's membership to the membership committee and we can perhaps discuss how to get us out of the micromanagement business at the June meeting. I find this paragraph confusing. You ask, and cc the committee to vote, but then SLOBs vote, which then you accept as valid. I accept as valid as well, but, nevertheless, I'm not sure this was your intention. For those of you who don't know Samson, he is an active member of the community who has contributed some activities, e.g., [1] organized the Igbo translation team, and contributes often to the SL Facebook page. He was also a participant in Google Code-in 2014. regards. -walter [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4758 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4758 I hate to be the one to bring this up, but I think [1] does not comply with ASLO policy because there is no source code [2] that can be read. [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Editors/Reviewing_Guide#Is_the_code_obfuscated.3F On 06/05/15 11:40, Adam Holt wrote: +1 to Samson Goddy even if the Nigerian govt did not allow me to meet him during my less than 48hrs in country February (due to a more famous Goodluck/Badluck election ;) The following page says the Membership and Elections Committee can be emailed via elections at sugarlabs.org : http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance/Membership Is this still true? It wasn't the case, but I've just set it up to redirect to members@sugarlabs which currently reaches samsongoddy, me, caryl, walter and bernie. -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nadie libera a nadie, nadie se libera solo. Los seres humanos se liberan en comunión - P. Freire ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Testing alias
+1 to Samson Goddy even if the Nigerian govt did not allow me to meet him during my less than 48hrs in country February (due to a more famous Goodluck/Badluck election ;) The following page says the Membership and Elections Committee can be emailed via elections at sugarlabs.org : http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance/Membership Is this still true? On May 6, 2015 12:17 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: Hi Walter, Membership Committee is not a Team. It is a committee, and it needs vetting by SLOBs according to the Governance page. Neither you or I have the authority to accept samsongoddy, as I read it. I am not sure what passage you are referring to, but I can assure you that it was never the intention of the oversight committee to micro-manage. In any case, I'll ask the committee, CC'd here, to vote on Samson's membership to the membership committee and we can perhaps discuss how to get us out of the micromanagement business at the June meeting. SLOB members, please let me know your vote re allowing Samson to join the membership committee. For those of you who don't know Samson, he is an active member of the community who has contributed some activities, e.g., [1] organized the Igbo translation team, and contributes often to the SL Facebook page. He was also a participant in Google Code-in 2014. regards. -walter [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4758 Regards, Sebastian On 06/05/15 09:13, Walter Bender wrote: I did not realize that all volunteers on the teams need vetting by SLOB. If so it is a bad precident. On May 6, 2015 10:05 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: On 06/05/15 03:37, Samson Goddy wrote: The reason why i was able to access the list was because Walter made one of the committee members. About spykidacu...@outlook.com, is a volunteer in Sugar Labs and also his in my Sugar Labs team in Nigeria, which Walter know of. 1. Sugar Labs is _not_ Walter. Make sure the engage the rest of Sugar Labs. Nice to meet you. I was not aware of any other active members appointed by SLOBs. (And I did ask). Was your appointment announced sometime publicly? I don't understand why you have to remove me in the membership committee, that i don't understand. Is there any way i shouldn't be in the membership committee? 2. Sure. We have a process which is in the Governance page. I volunteered to the committee because there had been 2 years without elections and never have there been a survey to keep the membership list current. These are the main responsibilities of the Election and Membership committee. We'd be glad to have you. In short, do this: - Read the governance / membership committee pages - Write to SLOBS requesting to be a member - Wait for a vote For us (Caryl and me), it took almost 2 months to be confirmed, official member of election committee. However, in that opportunity, SLOBS voted that they would solicit help from young members so maybe they will be more expedite for you. Thanks and good luck! Sebastian -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nobody liberates anybody, nobody is released only humans are released into communion. - P. Freire ___ Sugar-devel mailing listSugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.orghttp:// lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nobody liberates anybody, nobody is released only humans are released into communion. - P. Freire -- Walter Bender Sugar Labshttp://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
