[Sugar-devel] Tutorius Demo and Meeting: Take 2

2009-11-04 Thread Erick Lavoie
Sorry for sending this again, but due to last minute events and the 
absence of activity on the sugar IRC channel last Friday, we will redo a 
demo tomorrow (Thursday Nov 4th) at 9h30 AM EST. We will hang around on 
the sugar channel and chat with interested people.  A copy of the mail 
sent last week is shown below.


See you tomorrow,

Erick
Tutorius
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As discussed before, Tutorius is a
project done by 9 students from Universit de Sherbrooke (Qubec,
Canada) aiming to integrate interactive tutorials inside Sugar to guide
Sugar users in learning the platform and its activities. Our goal for
december is to be able to cover most of the content of the Floss manual. 

We are doing this along 3 axis:

  Execution: Add the mecanisms needed to Sugar to support execution
of tutorials
  Creation: Provide tools to create tutorials from within Sugar in
a GUI environment
  Sharing: Provide a platform to share tutorials on the web


We have shown demos in the past of basic capabilities (in chronological
order), here,
here
and at a presentation
given last April.

Next Friday, we will hang around on IRC at 13h EST and give a live demo
of the current state of the project using Yuuguu or something
equivalent, with an execution engine running in a separate process than
the activity, an overhauled tutorial creator (still running inside the
activity process) and maybe a quick overview of the sharing platform
based around the addon sharing platform from Mozilla.

We would like to exchange ideas with people and discuss technical
matters with the following goals:

  Receive feedback on the work done so far
  Discuss the possible integration of our system with Sugar, the
SugarLabs sharing platform and the official release cycle
  
  Anticipate possible evolutions
  Exchange ideas and pointers to similar work and papers to inspire
ourselves and avoid duplicating research efforts

Our team will disband around mid-december, but I'll keep maintaining
the project and there might be possibilities for another team of 6-8
people from Universit de Sherbrooke to push the project further in
January for another year. It would be really exciting to see a
collaboration with SugarLabs continue in the future!

For those interested in a more technical view of the inner working of
the system, see Tutorius
Architecture, especially the Component
section.

See you on IRC on Friday at 13h EST!

Erick Lavoie
for Tutorius






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Re: [Sugar-devel] Tutorius Demo and Meeting

2009-10-29 Thread Erick Lavoie






Edward Cherlin wrote:

  On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:11, Erick Lavoie erick.lav...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  
As discussed before, Tutorius is a project done by 9 students from
Université de Sherbrooke (Québec, Canada) aiming to integrate interactive
tutorials inside Sugar to guide Sugar users in learning the platform and its
activities.  Our goal for december is to be able to cover most of the
content of the Floss manual.

  
  
I have started writing a new manual, tentatively Discovering Discovery
on the XO. It is based on the material in my Wiki page,
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/The_Undiscoverable. The introductory
material and the first few topics exist in draft form. I am currently
sorting obstacles by dependencies. Then I intend to create a sequence
of topics in dependency order exploring each obstacle. The intention
is to cover everything that an average student will need in order to
be able to use all of the Sugar software at grade level.

Then we have to work on the topics appropriate for each school
subject, and propose a few new subjects that are essential for
achieving the Millennium Development Goals, building a functioning
society and economy, and rebuilding the environment.

  
  
We are doing this along 3 axis:

Execution: Add the mechanisms needed to Sugar to support execution of
tutorials

  
  
What do you need besides existing activities and programming
environments, particularly TurtleArt, Pippy, Scratch, and Etoys?

  

I am referring to the design we have done to be able to overlay
Tutorials on top of Activities or the Shell, in a uniform way for all
GUI systems (Gtk, PyGame, Qt, Etoys, etc.) supported by Sugar.  We want
teachers and students to eventually be able to write interactive guides
to Sugar without having to understand the specifics of the technologies
behind every activity. This is what will make tutorial building easy.
This is a lot more challenging than simply making sure that it is
possible to create tutorials for a specific activity.

So far, we are only supporting Gtk-based Activities but the support for
other systems should be progressively incorporated.

We do not need any extraneous libraries or third-party software other
than what is shipped with Sugar  currently but we needed to add some
hooks in Sugar itself (sugar-session, Activity, etc.).

  
  
Creation: Provide tools to create tutorials from within Sugar in a GUI
environment

  
  
Same question.

  

Again, this is a custom design and the goal is to be able to use the
same Tutorial Creator for all Activities and Sugar itself.  Based on
the FLOSS manuals, we realized that we needed more than one activity
for certain workflows so we want to be able to execute tutorials that
spans more than one Activity and guide through Sugar itself between
those activities.  The Creator should enable building tutorials in a
way that is as close to the workflow an experienced user is using as
possible. Eventually, it should be easy to record the events the user
has generated to accomplish a certain workflow through many Activities
and then allow edition of that sequence for incorporating
notifications to guide another user in accomplishing the same workflow.
This is more than simply providing a help section inside an activity.

It should become a lot more concrete once we have shown a demo of the
current Creator in action.

regards,

Erick

  
  
Sharing: Provide a platform to share tutorials on the web

  
  
Definitely.

  
  
We have shown demos in the past of basic capabilities (in chronological
order), here, here and at a presentation given last April.

Next Friday, we will hang around on IRC at 13h EST and give a live demo of
the current state of the project using Yuuguu or something equivalent, with
an execution engine running in a separate process than the activity, an
overhauled tutorial creator (still running inside the activity process) and
maybe a quick overview of the sharing platform based around the addon
sharing platform from Mozilla.

We would like to exchange ideas with people and discuss technical matters
with the following goals:

Receive feedback on the work done so far
Discuss the possible integration of our system with Sugar, the SugarLabs
sharing platform and the official release cycle
Anticipate possible evolutions
Exchange ideas and pointers to similar work and papers to inspire ourselves
and avoid duplicating research efforts

Our team will disband around mid-december, but I'll keep maintaining the
project and there might be possibilities for another team of 6-8 people from
Université de Sherbrooke to push the project further in January for another
year. It would be really exciting to see a collaboration with SugarLabs
continue in the future!

For those interested in a more technical view of the inner working of the
system, see Tutorius Architecture, especially the Component section.

See you on IRC on Friday at 13h EST!

Erick Lavoie
for Tutorius





[Sugar-devel] Tutorius Demo and Meeting

2009-10-27 Thread Erick Lavoie




As discussed before, Tutorius is a
project done by 9 students from Universit de Sherbrooke (Qubec,
Canada) aiming to integrate interactive tutorials inside Sugar to guide
Sugar users in learning the platform and its activities. Our goal for
december is to be able to cover most of the content of the Floss manual. 

We are doing this along 3 axis:

  Execution: Add the mecanisms needed to Sugar to support execution
of tutorials
  Creation: Provide tools to create tutorials from within Sugar in
a GUI environment
  Sharing: Provide a platform to share tutorials on the web


We have shown demos in the past of basic capabilities (in chronological
order), here,
here
and at a presentation
given last April.

Next Friday, we will hang around on IRC at 13h EST and give a live demo
of the current state of the project using Yuuguu or something
equivalent, with an execution engine running in a separate process than
the activity, an overhauled tutorial creator (still running inside the
activity process) and maybe a quick overview of the sharing platform
based around the addon sharing platform from Mozilla.

We would like to exchange ideas with people and discuss technical
matters with the following goals:

  Receive feedback on the work done so far
  Discuss the possible integration of our system with Sugar, the
SugarLabs sharing platform and the official release cycle
  
  Anticipate possible evolutions
  Exchange ideas and pointers to similar work and papers to inspire
ourselves and avoid duplicating research efforts

Our team will disband around mid-december, but I'll keep maintaining
the project and there might be possibilities for another team of 6-8
people from Universit de Sherbrooke to push the project further in
January for another year. It would be really exciting to see a
collaboration with SugarLabs continue in the future!

For those interested in a more technical view of the inner working of
the system, see Tutorius
Architecture, especially the Component
section.

See you on IRC on Friday at 13h EST!

Erick Lavoie
for Tutorius





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Re: [Sugar-devel] Tutorius Demo and Meeting

2009-10-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:11, Erick Lavoie erick.lav...@gmail.com wrote:
 As discussed before, Tutorius is a project done by 9 students from
 Université de Sherbrooke (Québec, Canada) aiming to integrate interactive
 tutorials inside Sugar to guide Sugar users in learning the platform and its
 activities.  Our goal for december is to be able to cover most of the
 content of the Floss manual.

I have started writing a new manual, tentatively Discovering Discovery
on the XO. It is based on the material in my Wiki page,
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/The_Undiscoverable. The introductory
material and the first few topics exist in draft form. I am currently
sorting obstacles by dependencies. Then I intend to create a sequence
of topics in dependency order exploring each obstacle. The intention
is to cover everything that an average student will need in order to
be able to use all of the Sugar software at grade level.

Then we have to work on the topics appropriate for each school
subject, and propose a few new subjects that are essential for
achieving the Millennium Development Goals, building a functioning
society and economy, and rebuilding the environment.

 We are doing this along 3 axis:

 Execution: Add the mechanisms needed to Sugar to support execution of
 tutorials

What do you need besides existing activities and programming
environments, particularly TurtleArt, Pippy, Scratch, and Etoys?

 Creation: Provide tools to create tutorials from within Sugar in a GUI
 environment

Same question.

 Sharing: Provide a platform to share tutorials on the web

Definitely.

 We have shown demos in the past of basic capabilities (in chronological
 order), here, here and at a presentation given last April.

 Next Friday, we will hang around on IRC at 13h EST and give a live demo of
 the current state of the project using Yuuguu or something equivalent, with
 an execution engine running in a separate process than the activity, an
 overhauled tutorial creator (still running inside the activity process) and
 maybe a quick overview of the sharing platform based around the addon
 sharing platform from Mozilla.

 We would like to exchange ideas with people and discuss technical matters
 with the following goals:

 Receive feedback on the work done so far
 Discuss the possible integration of our system with Sugar, the SugarLabs
 sharing platform and the official release cycle
 Anticipate possible evolutions
 Exchange ideas and pointers to similar work and papers to inspire ourselves
 and avoid duplicating research efforts

 Our team will disband around mid-december, but I'll keep maintaining the
 project and there might be possibilities for another team of 6-8 people from
 Université de Sherbrooke to push the project further in January for another
 year. It would be really exciting to see a collaboration with SugarLabs
 continue in the future!

 For those interested in a more technical view of the inner working of the
 system, see Tutorius Architecture, especially the Component section.

 See you on IRC on Friday at 13h EST!

 Erick Lavoie
 for Tutorius




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Re: [Sugar-devel] Tutorius Demo and Meeting

2009-10-27 Thread David Van Assche
Please put them in linux-for-education.org. Pages too if u do more
work doing than the person that currently has one not only do you get
his (his responsibility to engraveI lost this tshirt in good shame
and faith, but by the batttlecry of Eureeeka, I will reclaim it one
again-2 to Full Name

I think its a fun idea, and it could be a thing for various distros
and various themes. Almost like pledges to get, like in
xbox-playstation(nintendo)

Lets say for Linux-for-education.org there are only 10 tshirts for
now. the major distros do somethin similar, doesnt even have to be in
area of IT a cool limited edition t-shirt,

This should put some computition into dox writing triaging and bug bashing.


Along with the pages, we must have at least 1 judge, robbed, robber
eh achhievements.  publicly show it off in the liunux wall of shame page.

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Erick Lavoie erick.lav...@gmail.com wrote:
 As discussed before, Tutorius is a project done by 9 students from
 Université de Sherbrooke (Québec, Canada) aiming to integrate interactive
 tutorials inside Sugar to guide Sugar users in learning the platform and its
 activities.  Our goal for december is to be able to cover most of the
 content of the Floss manual.

 We are doing this along 3 axis:

 Execution: Add the mecanisms needed to Sugar to support execution of
 tutorials
 Creation: Provide tools to create tutorials from within Sugar in a GUI
 environment
 Sharing: Provide a platform to share tutorials on the web

 We have shown demos in the past of basic capabilities (in chronological
 order), here, here and at a presentation given last April.

 Next Friday, we will hang around on IRC at 13h EST and give a live demo of
 the current state of the project using Yuuguu or something equivalent, with
 an execution engine running in a separate process than the activity, an
 overhauled tutorial creator (still running inside the activity process) and
 maybe a quick overview of the sharing platform based around the addon
 sharing platform from Mozilla.

 We would like to exchange ideas with people and discuss technical matters
 with the following goals:

 Receive feedback on the work done so far
 Discuss the possible integration of our system with Sugar, the SugarLabs
 sharing platform and the official release cycle
 Anticipate possible evolutions
 Exchange ideas and pointers to similar work and papers to inspire ourselves
 and avoid duplicating research efforts

 Our team will disband around mid-december, but I'll keep maintaining the
 project and there might be possibilities for another team of 6-8 people from
 Université de Sherbrooke to push the project further in January for another
 year. It would be really exciting to see a collaboration with SugarLabs
 continue in the future!

 For those interested in a more technical view of the inner working of the
 system, see Tutorius Architecture, especially the Component section.

 See you on IRC on Friday at 13h EST!

 Erick Lavoie
 for Tutorius




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