[Sugar-devel] Tutorius Demo and Meeting: Take 2
Sorry for sending this again, but due to last minute events and the absence of activity on the sugar IRC channel last Friday, we will redo a demo tomorrow (Thursday Nov 4th) at 9h30 AM EST. We will hang around on the sugar channel and chat with interested people. A copy of the mail sent last week is shown below. See you tomorrow, Erick Tutorius ---BeginMessage--- As discussed before, Tutorius is a project done by 9 students from Universit de Sherbrooke (Qubec, Canada) aiming to integrate interactive tutorials inside Sugar to guide Sugar users in learning the platform and its activities. Our goal for december is to be able to cover most of the content of the Floss manual. We are doing this along 3 axis: Execution: Add the mecanisms needed to Sugar to support execution of tutorials Creation: Provide tools to create tutorials from within Sugar in a GUI environment Sharing: Provide a platform to share tutorials on the web We have shown demos in the past of basic capabilities (in chronological order), here, here and at a presentation given last April. Next Friday, we will hang around on IRC at 13h EST and give a live demo of the current state of the project using Yuuguu or something equivalent, with an execution engine running in a separate process than the activity, an overhauled tutorial creator (still running inside the activity process) and maybe a quick overview of the sharing platform based around the addon sharing platform from Mozilla. We would like to exchange ideas with people and discuss technical matters with the following goals: Receive feedback on the work done so far Discuss the possible integration of our system with Sugar, the SugarLabs sharing platform and the official release cycle Anticipate possible evolutions Exchange ideas and pointers to similar work and papers to inspire ourselves and avoid duplicating research efforts Our team will disband around mid-december, but I'll keep maintaining the project and there might be possibilities for another team of 6-8 people from Universit de Sherbrooke to push the project further in January for another year. It would be really exciting to see a collaboration with SugarLabs continue in the future! For those interested in a more technical view of the inner working of the system, see Tutorius Architecture, especially the Component section. See you on IRC on Friday at 13h EST! Erick Lavoie for Tutorius ---End Message--- ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Tutorius Demo and Meeting
Edward Cherlin wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:11, Erick Lavoie erick.lav...@gmail.com wrote: As discussed before, Tutorius is a project done by 9 students from Université de Sherbrooke (Québec, Canada) aiming to integrate interactive tutorials inside Sugar to guide Sugar users in learning the platform and its activities. Our goal for december is to be able to cover most of the content of the Floss manual. I have started writing a new manual, tentatively Discovering Discovery on the XO. It is based on the material in my Wiki page, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/The_Undiscoverable. The introductory material and the first few topics exist in draft form. I am currently sorting obstacles by dependencies. Then I intend to create a sequence of topics in dependency order exploring each obstacle. The intention is to cover everything that an average student will need in order to be able to use all of the Sugar software at grade level. Then we have to work on the topics appropriate for each school subject, and propose a few new subjects that are essential for achieving the Millennium Development Goals, building a functioning society and economy, and rebuilding the environment. We are doing this along 3 axis: Execution: Add the mechanisms needed to Sugar to support execution of tutorials What do you need besides existing activities and programming environments, particularly TurtleArt, Pippy, Scratch, and Etoys? I am referring to the design we have done to be able to overlay Tutorials on top of Activities or the Shell, in a uniform way for all GUI systems (Gtk, PyGame, Qt, Etoys, etc.) supported by Sugar. We want teachers and students to eventually be able to write interactive guides to Sugar without having to understand the specifics of the technologies behind every activity. This is what will make tutorial building easy. This is a lot more challenging than simply making sure that it is possible to create tutorials for a specific activity. So far, we are only supporting Gtk-based Activities but the support for other systems should be progressively incorporated. We do not need any extraneous libraries or third-party software other than what is shipped with Sugar currently but we needed to add some hooks in Sugar itself (sugar-session, Activity, etc.). Creation: Provide tools to create tutorials from within Sugar in a GUI environment Same question. Again, this is a custom design and the goal is to be able to use the same Tutorial Creator for all Activities and Sugar itself. Based on the FLOSS manuals, we realized that we needed more than one activity for certain workflows so we want to be able to execute tutorials that spans more than one Activity and guide through Sugar itself between those activities. The Creator should enable building tutorials in a way that is as close to the workflow an experienced user is using as possible. Eventually, it should be easy to record the events the user has generated to accomplish a certain workflow through many Activities and then allow edition of that sequence for incorporating notifications to guide another user in accomplishing the same workflow. This is more than simply providing a help section inside an activity. It should become a lot more concrete once we have shown a demo of the current Creator in action. regards, Erick Sharing: Provide a platform to share tutorials on the web Definitely. We have shown demos in the past of basic capabilities (in chronological order), here, here and at a presentation given last April. Next Friday, we will hang around on IRC at 13h EST and give a live demo of the current state of the project using Yuuguu or something equivalent, with an execution engine running in a separate process than the activity, an overhauled tutorial creator (still running inside the activity process) and maybe a quick overview of the sharing platform based around the addon sharing platform from Mozilla. We would like to exchange ideas with people and discuss technical matters with the following goals: Receive feedback on the work done so far Discuss the possible integration of our system with Sugar, the SugarLabs sharing platform and the official release cycle Anticipate possible evolutions Exchange ideas and pointers to similar work and papers to inspire ourselves and avoid duplicating research efforts Our team will disband around mid-december, but I'll keep maintaining the project and there might be possibilities for another team of 6-8 people from Université de Sherbrooke to push the project further in January for another year. It would be really exciting to see a collaboration with SugarLabs continue in the future! For those interested in a more technical view of the inner working of the system, see Tutorius Architecture, especially the Component section. See you on IRC on Friday at 13h EST! Erick Lavoie for Tutorius
[Sugar-devel] Tutorius Demo and Meeting
As discussed before, Tutorius is a project done by 9 students from Universit de Sherbrooke (Qubec, Canada) aiming to integrate interactive tutorials inside Sugar to guide Sugar users in learning the platform and its activities. Our goal for december is to be able to cover most of the content of the Floss manual. We are doing this along 3 axis: Execution: Add the mecanisms needed to Sugar to support execution of tutorials Creation: Provide tools to create tutorials from within Sugar in a GUI environment Sharing: Provide a platform to share tutorials on the web We have shown demos in the past of basic capabilities (in chronological order), here, here and at a presentation given last April. Next Friday, we will hang around on IRC at 13h EST and give a live demo of the current state of the project using Yuuguu or something equivalent, with an execution engine running in a separate process than the activity, an overhauled tutorial creator (still running inside the activity process) and maybe a quick overview of the sharing platform based around the addon sharing platform from Mozilla. We would like to exchange ideas with people and discuss technical matters with the following goals: Receive feedback on the work done so far Discuss the possible integration of our system with Sugar, the SugarLabs sharing platform and the official release cycle Anticipate possible evolutions Exchange ideas and pointers to similar work and papers to inspire ourselves and avoid duplicating research efforts Our team will disband around mid-december, but I'll keep maintaining the project and there might be possibilities for another team of 6-8 people from Universit de Sherbrooke to push the project further in January for another year. It would be really exciting to see a collaboration with SugarLabs continue in the future! For those interested in a more technical view of the inner working of the system, see Tutorius Architecture, especially the Component section. See you on IRC on Friday at 13h EST! Erick Lavoie for Tutorius ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Tutorius Demo and Meeting
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:11, Erick Lavoie erick.lav...@gmail.com wrote: As discussed before, Tutorius is a project done by 9 students from Université de Sherbrooke (Québec, Canada) aiming to integrate interactive tutorials inside Sugar to guide Sugar users in learning the platform and its activities. Our goal for december is to be able to cover most of the content of the Floss manual. I have started writing a new manual, tentatively Discovering Discovery on the XO. It is based on the material in my Wiki page, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/The_Undiscoverable. The introductory material and the first few topics exist in draft form. I am currently sorting obstacles by dependencies. Then I intend to create a sequence of topics in dependency order exploring each obstacle. The intention is to cover everything that an average student will need in order to be able to use all of the Sugar software at grade level. Then we have to work on the topics appropriate for each school subject, and propose a few new subjects that are essential for achieving the Millennium Development Goals, building a functioning society and economy, and rebuilding the environment. We are doing this along 3 axis: Execution: Add the mechanisms needed to Sugar to support execution of tutorials What do you need besides existing activities and programming environments, particularly TurtleArt, Pippy, Scratch, and Etoys? Creation: Provide tools to create tutorials from within Sugar in a GUI environment Same question. Sharing: Provide a platform to share tutorials on the web Definitely. We have shown demos in the past of basic capabilities (in chronological order), here, here and at a presentation given last April. Next Friday, we will hang around on IRC at 13h EST and give a live demo of the current state of the project using Yuuguu or something equivalent, with an execution engine running in a separate process than the activity, an overhauled tutorial creator (still running inside the activity process) and maybe a quick overview of the sharing platform based around the addon sharing platform from Mozilla. We would like to exchange ideas with people and discuss technical matters with the following goals: Receive feedback on the work done so far Discuss the possible integration of our system with Sugar, the SugarLabs sharing platform and the official release cycle Anticipate possible evolutions Exchange ideas and pointers to similar work and papers to inspire ourselves and avoid duplicating research efforts Our team will disband around mid-december, but I'll keep maintaining the project and there might be possibilities for another team of 6-8 people from Université de Sherbrooke to push the project further in January for another year. It would be really exciting to see a collaboration with SugarLabs continue in the future! For those interested in a more technical view of the inner working of the system, see Tutorius Architecture, especially the Component section. See you on IRC on Friday at 13h EST! Erick Lavoie for Tutorius ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Tutorius Demo and Meeting
Please put them in linux-for-education.org. Pages too if u do more work doing than the person that currently has one not only do you get his (his responsibility to engraveI lost this tshirt in good shame and faith, but by the batttlecry of Eureeeka, I will reclaim it one again-2 to Full Name I think its a fun idea, and it could be a thing for various distros and various themes. Almost like pledges to get, like in xbox-playstation(nintendo) Lets say for Linux-for-education.org there are only 10 tshirts for now. the major distros do somethin similar, doesnt even have to be in area of IT a cool limited edition t-shirt, This should put some computition into dox writing triaging and bug bashing. Along with the pages, we must have at least 1 judge, robbed, robber eh achhievements. publicly show it off in the liunux wall of shame page. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Erick Lavoie erick.lav...@gmail.com wrote: As discussed before, Tutorius is a project done by 9 students from Université de Sherbrooke (Québec, Canada) aiming to integrate interactive tutorials inside Sugar to guide Sugar users in learning the platform and its activities. Our goal for december is to be able to cover most of the content of the Floss manual. We are doing this along 3 axis: Execution: Add the mecanisms needed to Sugar to support execution of tutorials Creation: Provide tools to create tutorials from within Sugar in a GUI environment Sharing: Provide a platform to share tutorials on the web We have shown demos in the past of basic capabilities (in chronological order), here, here and at a presentation given last April. Next Friday, we will hang around on IRC at 13h EST and give a live demo of the current state of the project using Yuuguu or something equivalent, with an execution engine running in a separate process than the activity, an overhauled tutorial creator (still running inside the activity process) and maybe a quick overview of the sharing platform based around the addon sharing platform from Mozilla. We would like to exchange ideas with people and discuss technical matters with the following goals: Receive feedback on the work done so far Discuss the possible integration of our system with Sugar, the SugarLabs sharing platform and the official release cycle Anticipate possible evolutions Exchange ideas and pointers to similar work and papers to inspire ourselves and avoid duplicating research efforts Our team will disband around mid-december, but I'll keep maintaining the project and there might be possibilities for another team of 6-8 people from Université de Sherbrooke to push the project further in January for another year. It would be really exciting to see a collaboration with SugarLabs continue in the future! For those interested in a more technical view of the inner working of the system, see Tutorius Architecture, especially the Component section. See you on IRC on Friday at 13h EST! Erick Lavoie for Tutorius ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Ted Turner - Sports is like a war without the killing. - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/ted_turner.html ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel