Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] interesting article on evaluation
Thanks; I'll go ahead and reach out to him. I know there are writing tools available online that we can use once we have the text samples, but obviously they're not customized for Haitian Creole. A lot of the text analysis will probably be more qualitative initially as we read through what the students wrote and try to draw useful conclusions from it. Out of curiosity: what sort of information becomes relevant when analyzing a Turtle Art project? On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Sora Edwards-Thro > wrote: > > Thanks for sharing, Walter. Evaluation is a key component of my own > research > > on kids using the XO-1 laptops to develop as readers and authors. Here is > > the data we hope to collect: > > > > -reading habits > > We will monitor which books individual students are downloading > from > > the server. We will also see the comments and rating readers leave on the > > books. > > -writing habits > > We will analyze writing samples published to the server for > > vocabulary and grammatical complexity. The article is correct to point > out > > that these are key predictors of future success. I think it would be a > good > > idea to ask the students some of the questions proposed in the article > and > > see their responses. > > -spoken stories > > For students who are not yet confident as writers, we hope to > also > > collect audio samples of oral storytelling / responses to prompts in > order > > to gauge their verbal and narrative abilities. > > -EGRA test results > >the EGRA test measures reading level by assessing students' > ability > > to recognize letters, sound out words, and comprehend short passages. > It's > > been adapted for Haiti and it's used in Africa as well. I don't really > like > > it (why so much emphasis on sounding out words, and only one section > devoted > > to comprehension, when the goal of reading is comprehension?), but we're > > using it because USAID likes it and we like getting money from them / > people > > who trust them. > > > > I remember talking to Martin Dluhos a little bit about his work, but I > have > > to admit I don't know much about the possibilities for looking at how > > students are spending their time via the Journal. Where can I go to find > out > > more? > > > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Dr. Gerald Ardito < > gerald.ard...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Walter, > >> > >> I agree with your position about this. I often think of it in these > terms: > >> we want to talk about depth of learning and not just proficiency in > regards > >> to skills and content. To do that, we need to offer al "alternative > world" > >> to the one that argues for more and more high stakes testing. The tools > you > >> propose seem really consistent with that. > >> And thanks for sharing the article. > >> Gerald > >> > >> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Walter Bender > > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Amidst all the discussion about the future of Sugar, it would be good > >>> to keep in mind what more we can do in terms of analyitics and > >>> evaluation. We have a pretty decent mechanism (wrtiten by Martin) for > >>> data gathering about what kids do; the portfolio for assessing what > >>> they have done; and a few rubrics for tying together some of these > >>> data. The ideas expressed in [1] suggest we could do more. > >>> > >>> regards. > >>> > >>> -walter > >>> > >>> [1] > >>> > http://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2015/02/26/things-every-kid-should-master/uM72LGr63zeaStOp9zGyrJ/story.html > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Walter Bender > >>> Sugar Labs > >>> http://www.sugarlabs.org > >>> ___ > >>> Sugar-devel mailing list > >>> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > >> i...@lists.sugarlabs.org > >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > > > > Martin Abente can tell you more about the data collection side of > Sugar (all of that work is in the new release, I believe. It is a > matter of turning on a server.) Regarding analyzing the writing > samples, etc. we don't have any automated tools for that in place. (We > do have some tools for analyzing Turtle Art projects). We also have > some tools for audio storytelling (the Story activity). > > -walter > > -- > Walter Bender > Sugar Labs > http://www.sugarlabs.org > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] interesting article on evaluation
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Sora Edwards-Thro wrote: > Thanks for sharing, Walter. Evaluation is a key component of my own research > on kids using the XO-1 laptops to develop as readers and authors. Here is > the data we hope to collect: > > -reading habits > We will monitor which books individual students are downloading from > the server. We will also see the comments and rating readers leave on the > books. > -writing habits > We will analyze writing samples published to the server for > vocabulary and grammatical complexity. The article is correct to point out > that these are key predictors of future success. I think it would be a good > idea to ask the students some of the questions proposed in the article and > see their responses. > -spoken stories > For students who are not yet confident as writers, we hope to also > collect audio samples of oral storytelling / responses to prompts in order > to gauge their verbal and narrative abilities. > -EGRA test results >the EGRA test measures reading level by assessing students' ability > to recognize letters, sound out words, and comprehend short passages. It's > been adapted for Haiti and it's used in Africa as well. I don't really like > it (why so much emphasis on sounding out words, and only one section devoted > to comprehension, when the goal of reading is comprehension?), but we're > using it because USAID likes it and we like getting money from them / people > who trust them. > > I remember talking to Martin Dluhos a little bit about his work, but I have > to admit I don't know much about the possibilities for looking at how > students are spending their time via the Journal. Where can I go to find out > more? > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Dr. Gerald Ardito > wrote: >> >> Walter, >> >> I agree with your position about this. I often think of it in these terms: >> we want to talk about depth of learning and not just proficiency in regards >> to skills and content. To do that, we need to offer al "alternative world" >> to the one that argues for more and more high stakes testing. The tools you >> propose seem really consistent with that. >> And thanks for sharing the article. >> Gerald >> >> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Walter Bender >> wrote: >>> >>> Amidst all the discussion about the future of Sugar, it would be good >>> to keep in mind what more we can do in terms of analyitics and >>> evaluation. We have a pretty decent mechanism (wrtiten by Martin) for >>> data gathering about what kids do; the portfolio for assessing what >>> they have done; and a few rubrics for tying together some of these >>> data. The ideas expressed in [1] suggest we could do more. >>> >>> regards. >>> >>> -walter >>> >>> [1] >>> http://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2015/02/26/things-every-kid-should-master/uM72LGr63zeaStOp9zGyrJ/story.html >>> >>> -- >>> Walter Bender >>> Sugar Labs >>> http://www.sugarlabs.org >>> ___ >>> Sugar-devel mailing list >>> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >> >> >> >> ___ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> i...@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > Martin Abente can tell you more about the data collection side of Sugar (all of that work is in the new release, I believe. It is a matter of turning on a server.) Regarding analyzing the writing samples, etc. we don't have any automated tools for that in place. (We do have some tools for analyzing Turtle Art projects). We also have some tools for audio storytelling (the Story activity). -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] interesting article on evaluation
Thanks for sharing, Walter. Evaluation is a key component of my own research on kids using the XO-1 laptops to develop as readers and authors. Here is the data we hope to collect: -reading habits We will monitor which books individual students are downloading from the server. We will also see the comments and rating readers leave on the books. -writing habits We will analyze writing samples published to the server for vocabulary and grammatical complexity. The article is correct to point out that these are key predictors of future success. I think it would be a good idea to ask the students some of the questions proposed in the article and see their responses. -spoken stories For students who are not yet confident as writers, we hope to also collect audio samples of oral storytelling / responses to prompts in order to gauge their verbal and narrative abilities. -EGRA test results the EGRA test measures reading level by assessing students' ability to recognize letters, sound out words, and comprehend short passages. It's been adapted for Haiti and it's used in Africa as well. I don't really like it (why so much emphasis on sounding out words, and only one section devoted to comprehension, when the goal of reading is comprehension?), but we're using it because USAID likes it and we like getting money from them / people who trust them. I remember talking to Martin Dluhos a little bit about his work, but I have to admit I don't know much about the possibilities for looking at how students are spending their time via the Journal. Where can I go to find out more? On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Dr. Gerald Ardito wrote: > Walter, > > I agree with your position about this. I often think of it in these terms: > we want to talk about depth of learning and not just proficiency in regards > to skills and content. To do that, we need to offer al "alternative world" > to the one that argues for more and more high stakes testing. The tools you > propose seem really consistent with that. > And thanks for sharing the article. > Gerald > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Walter Bender > wrote: > >> Amidst all the discussion about the future of Sugar, it would be good >> to keep in mind what more we can do in terms of analyitics and >> evaluation. We have a pretty decent mechanism (wrtiten by Martin) for >> data gathering about what kids do; the portfolio for assessing what >> they have done; and a few rubrics for tying together some of these >> data. The ideas expressed in [1] suggest we could do more. >> >> regards. >> >> -walter >> >> [1] >> http://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2015/02/26/things-every-kid-should-master/uM72LGr63zeaStOp9zGyrJ/story.html >> >> -- >> Walter Bender >> Sugar Labs >> http://www.sugarlabs.org >> ___ >> Sugar-devel mailing list >> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >> > > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > i...@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
