Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-106
On 2 Apr 2009, at 10:50, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Sorry to rush on this, but barring objections, I get the feeling this is getting close to happening in the next 24hrs... http://dev.sugarlabs.org/attachment/ticket/645/simple_static_page_v3.png Objection! :-) Please re-add the link to 'Local Schoolserver'. OK :-) Silly question, so I've added a link to http://schoolserver/ which will be a broken link unless you are in a school environment with a school server set to that name. Could distros (like SoaS, or XO targeted builds), change the resolution order through /etc/host.conf (maybe also /etc/nsswitch.conf) so that the check for schoolserver go first to a dns server? If that fails to resolve, a local host file entry could then try to go to the schools moodle server at http://schools.sugarlabs.org/ Hmmm, I guess that's going to mess with browser cookies, but just thought I'd raise the question. I might look at some other old html tricks (but not for this release) that could avoid the broken link. Some dhtml tricks might work hiding the potential error page in a hidden frame and auto switching to the public server URL if the local URL fails. BTW, did you mean to CC the list? We've dropped to a private thread... Ooops, back on list. --G cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-106
remember the URL should be http://www.sugarlabs.org and not http://sugarlabs.org thanks On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 2 Apr 2009, at 10:50, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Sorry to rush on this, but barring objections, I get the feeling this is getting close to happening in the next 24hrs... http://dev.sugarlabs.org/attachment/ticket/645/simple_static_page_v3.png Objection! :-) Please re-add the link to 'Local Schoolserver'. OK :-) Silly question, so I've added a link to http://schoolserver/ which will be a broken link unless you are in a school environment with a school server set to that name. Could distros (like SoaS, or XO targeted builds), change the resolution order through /etc/host.conf (maybe also /etc/nsswitch.conf) so that the check for schoolserver go first to a dns server? If that fails to resolve, a local host file entry could then try to go to the schools moodle server at http://schools.sugarlabs.org/ Hmmm, I guess that's going to mess with browser cookies, but just thought I'd raise the question. I might look at some other old html tricks (but not for this release) that could avoid the broken link. Some dhtml tricks might work hiding the potential error page in a hidden frame and auto switching to the public server URL if the local URL fails. BTW, did you mean to CC the list? We've dropped to a private thread... Ooops, back on list. --G cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-106
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Silly question, so I've added a link to http://schoolserver/ which will be a broken link unless you are in a school environment with a school server set to that name. Could distros (like SoaS, or XO targeted builds), change the resolution order through /etc/host.conf (maybe also /etc/nsswitch.conf) so Messing with nsswitch is a bit messy. My plan is to have a svc announcement (bonjour style) so the python code in Browse could check whether there's an XS service on the network and do something magic -- like catch the browser opening http://schoolserver/ and change it to the url obtained via bonjour. It's iffy though :-/ and will probably break other stuff. Hmmm, I guess that's going to mess with browser cookies, but just thought I'd raise the question. The schoolserver redirects to the fqdn immediately so that the right cookies kick in. At least that's not a problem :-) cheers, martin -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-106
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Eben Eliason e...@laptop.org wrote: We should really start referring to this as the collaboration server, especially if we're going to include it as a link available in all distributions/environments. Ideally, we'd fall back to some page which describes the benefits of having a collaboration server and point to links for setting one up, if there isn't one available. I have no idea how to do that. You can probably use the dnsResolve() function (commonly used in PAChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_auto-configfiles). Some code we might be able to use/modify: http://forums.devarticles.com/javascript-development-22/dns-lookup-using-javascript-74973.html I don't know javascript, but if nobody else bothers I'll look into it. -- Luke Faraone http://luke.faraone.cc ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-106
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: Kudos for the release! One note though: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: * Make sugarlabs.org the default homepage Um. This means that Browse out-of-the-box doesn't behave well in disconnected or XS-driven environments. Going back on the actual trac entry, it seems like it still retains a local page, and that the changelog is misleading. Sorry about the noise. I just hope that it's still a local page, with links that make it useful out-of-the-box for small deployments, like 'Activities' and 'Schoolserver' (hint, hint! ;-) ) as well as Sugarlabs. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-106
Martin Langhoff wrote: Kudos for the release! One note though: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: * Make sugarlabs.org the default homepage Um. This means that Browse out-of-the-box doesn't behave well in disconnected or XS-driven environments. IMHO having the local homepage is a good thing, and making it link (promimently) to Sugarlabs is an even better thing. But no local homepage is a bit of a bummer. cheers, m #645 does handle getting in the local page. The sugarlabs.org page is just there in the meantime. Cheers, Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
