Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Call for Testers (New Snapshot!)

[Caroline Meeks]

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:50 AM, Elena of Valhalla
wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Sebastian Dziallas 
> wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > the SoaS team has another snapshot ready for testing - it's absolutely
> > important that it get's tested as much as possible for our release!
>
> I've noticed that it shows the missing pointer bug that has been
> worked around in SoaS1 by using the older openchrome driver
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491083


Ah hah!  One of the YMCA machines did not show the arrow. Perhaps fixing
this bug will allow that machine to run SoaS2?

Thanks

>
>
> > If you're going to put it on a USB key or a SD card under Linux, please
> > make sure to use exactly this version of livecd-iso-to-disk, as you
> > might encounter issues with other versions, which are around:
>
> > http://shell.sugarlabs.org/sdz/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh
>
> I can confirm that this no longer shows the problems with syslinux
> under ubuntu, great
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Call for Testers (New Snapshot!)

[Elena of Valhalla]

On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Sebastian Dziallas  wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> the SoaS team has another snapshot ready for testing - it's absolutely
> important that it get's tested as much as possible for our release!

I've noticed that it shows the missing pointer bug that has been
worked around in SoaS1 by using the older openchrome driver

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491083

> If you're going to put it on a USB key or a SD card under Linux, please
> make sure to use exactly this version of livecd-iso-to-disk, as you
> might encounter issues with other versions, which are around:

> http://shell.sugarlabs.org/sdz/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh

I can confirm that this no longer shows the problems with syslinux
under ubuntu, great

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Call for Testers (New Snapshot!)

[Carol Farlow Lerche]

One choice -- Newberry medal winning children's books by women authors:

http://digital.library.upenn.edu/women/_collections/newbery/newbery.html

I have converted these to epub format including the illustrations found at
the website, very compact and accessible via fbreader.  How should they be
packaged to make them available?

On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:

> Caroline Meeks wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Sebastian Dziallas  > > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Caroline,
> >
> > thanks for giving this a try! I added some comments below...
> >
> > By the way, would it be okay for you to get a final image by April
> > 7th or do you need one earlier?
> >
> >
> > The ability to burn more then one USB at a time is still not working. If
> > it works April 7th is fine.  If it doesn't life is not going to be fun
> > for me.
>
> Heh. Okay, I guess we'll see this tomorrow... ;)
>
> > What of my wish list do you think I will get?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Caroline
> >
> > *Here is my wish list.*
> >
> > Add to favorites Ring:
> > Slider Puzzle, Jigsaw Puzzle, Story Builder, Typing Turtle,
> > Cartoon Builder,
>
> I hope that everything works well, as I tried to add them manually. That
> will turn out in the next snapshot, which should be ready tomorrow.
>
> > Take out of the favorites Ring
> > Log, Terminal. Read
> >
> > Add a book or two for Read then add Read back to the favorites
> ring
>
> Hm, we'd need some books to grab (preferable from a.sl.o)...
>
> > Add Scratch and let me test it. It doesn't seem to be on the
> > Activities Portal yet.
>
> Well, this is kind of strange. I can see it's wiki page on laptop.org
> (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/Scratch), but it seems like if it
> doesn't even have a GIT repo anymore (!) - that seems to be unavailable.
>
> As far as I know, it has also not been migrated to SugarLabs, either, so
> I'm a bit lost. Is there still any development on this?
>
> > Fix:
> > Colors, Flipsticks and IRC and add the to the favorites Ring
>
> IRC is working here.
>
> Colors is reporting that it cannot find 'proper binary blobs' (fails
> with 'from colorsc import *'), and so is Bounce (fails with 'from pongc
> import *'). Maybe we're still missing some dependencies, I'm not yet
> sure... probably the activity maintainers know.
>
> > I'm open to dissenting opinions here, this is just my current
> > impressions of what would make a good demo stick.
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Call for Testers (New Snapshot!)

[Sebastian Dziallas]

Caroline Meeks wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Sebastian Dziallas  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Caroline,
> 
> thanks for giving this a try! I added some comments below...
> 
> By the way, would it be okay for you to get a final image by April
> 7th or do you need one earlier?
> 
> 
> The ability to burn more then one USB at a time is still not working. If 
> it works April 7th is fine.  If it doesn't life is not going to be fun 
> for me.

Heh. Okay, I guess we'll see this tomorrow... ;)

> What of my wish list do you think I will get?
> 
> Thanks,
> Caroline
> 
> *Here is my wish list.*
> 
> Add to favorites Ring:
> Slider Puzzle, Jigsaw Puzzle, Story Builder, Typing Turtle,
> Cartoon Builder,

I hope that everything works well, as I tried to add them manually. That 
will turn out in the next snapshot, which should be ready tomorrow.

> Take out of the favorites Ring
> Log, Terminal. Read
> 
> Add a book or two for Read then add Read back to the favorites ring

Hm, we'd need some books to grab (preferable from a.sl.o)...

> Add Scratch and let me test it. It doesn't seem to be on the
> Activities Portal yet.

Well, this is kind of strange. I can see it's wiki page on laptop.org 
(http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/Scratch), but it seems like if it 
doesn't even have a GIT repo anymore (!) - that seems to be unavailable.

As far as I know, it has also not been migrated to SugarLabs, either, so 
I'm a bit lost. Is there still any development on this?

> Fix:
> Colors, Flipsticks and IRC and add the to the favorites Ring

IRC is working here.

Colors is reporting that it cannot find 'proper binary blobs' (fails 
with 'from colorsc import *'), and so is Bounce (fails with 'from pongc 
import *'). Maybe we're still missing some dependencies, I'm not yet 
sure... probably the activity maintainers know.

> I'm open to dissenting opinions here, this is just my current
> impressions of what would make a good demo stick.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Call for Testers (New Snapshot!)

[Gary C Martin]

On 4 Apr 2009, at 04:26, Caroline Meeks wrote:

> Results
>
> Boots up fine. Love the sugar branding!
>
> There are a lot fewer activities in the ring then SoaS1
>
> Memorize, Speak, Moon, Turtle, Jigsaw puzzel, joke book, typing  
> turtle, cartoon builder, Finance, Freecell
> - Work great. Sound works too
>
> Browse
> - "School" gives me an error.  I see why a school would want this  
> link on their system but it doesn't make sense to me to put out a  
> page with a broken link.

Yes, I wasn't too happy with a broken link for some users either, but  
there was a reasonable sugar-devel thread which seemed to settle  
(vaguely) on keeping it based on Martin Langhoff's (owner of the XS  
school server project) original request for it's inclusion on the  
static page (as it always was with the OLPC default web page). The  
question boils down to how many will use the new Sugar in the presence  
of a schoolserver, and how many won't. Nobody could give me a straight  
answer*** either way :-)

*** and really anyone deploying more than ~25-50 in one location (my  
guess) should really be considering a server to help smooth  
collaboration and provide other services like journal backup, moodle.

Three solutions:

1) Edit your master stick image /etc/hosts file and resolve to the  
server you want. For example the below one line addition will direct  
folks over to the schools.sugarlabs.org moodle server:

206.192.23.203  schoolserver

2) Edit your master stick image on line 55 of .../Browse.activity/data/ 
index.html and change http://schoolserver/ to point to the server you  
want; down side of this is if they upgrade Browse, your change goes  
away:

http://schools.sugarlabs.org/

3) Wait for me to try and implement some some magic javascript trick  
that tries to load a potential local schoolserver first, but if it  
then fails, tries to load schools.sugarlabs.org. I think I've seen one  
similar example kicking around but, I don't have time to play at least  
over the next few days (I'm trying to focus free time on Labyrinth now).

Regards,
--Gary

> - The arrow flashes annoyingly when web pages are loading on my X40
>
> eToys
> - The screen flashes black a few times while it is loading its a bit  
> disconcerting
>
> Maze
> - The icon seems a bit bit in the circle
>
> Calculator
> - The font size and the curser seem a bit weird together. I took a  
> picture.
>
> Pippy
> -The Run, Stop and Clear buttons are a bit cut off. I took a picture
>
> Read
> - Why have the read activity with nothing to read?
>
>
>
> Story Builder,
>
> I haven't seen it before. Very cool! The characters seem a bit  
> pixilated, are they supposed to look like that?
>
> flipsticks
> Either I am using it wrong or saving a firgure by clicking the  
> bottom circle does not work.
>
>
> Bounce, Colors
>
> did not start
>
> IRC,
> Seemed to connect, and I got a message that my laptop SoaS2 had  
> entered the room but I couldn't actually see what people said in the  
> room or see what my laptop said while I was in the room.
>
> Yay! This is good! Its good enough for FOSSVT except for not having  
> a working collaboration server, but that's a different thread :)
>
> Here is my wish list.
>
> Add to favorites Ring:
> Slider Puzzle, Jigsaw Puzzle, Story Builder, Typing Turtle, Cartoon  
> Builder,
>
> Take out of the favorites Ring
> Log, Terminal. Read
>
> Add a book or two for Read then add Read back to the favorites ring
> Add Scratch and let me test it. It doesn't seem to be on the  
> Activities Portal yet.
>
> Fix:
> Colors, Flipsticks and IRC and add the to the favorites Ring
>
>
> I'm open to dissenting opinions here, this is just my current  
> impressions of what would make a good demo stick.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Sebastian Dziallas  
>  wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> the SoaS team has another snapshot ready for testing - it's  
> absolutely important that it get's tested as much as possible for  
> our release!
>
> You can grab it from here:
>
> http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/2/Soas2-200904031934.iso
>
> If you're going to put it on a USB key or a SD card under Linux,  
> please make sure to use exactly this version of livecd-iso-to-disk,  
> as you might encounter issues with other versions, which are around:
>
> http://shell.sugarlabs.org/sdz/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh
>
> There's also a new appliance snapshot available, but testing should  
> really focus on the .iso file for now:
>
> http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/appliances/soas2-20090403.tar.gz
>
> What has changed?
>
> * We're now supporting locales! You can change it in the control  
> panel.
> * You'll notice our funky boot screen - no hotdog anymore... ;)
> * Browse has been updated - including skin and default page changes!
>
> Again, please give it a try. And if you think that we should include  
> this or that specific activity, make sure to come up with it!
>
> So long, thanks and happy testing,
>   --Your SoaS Team
>
>
>
> -- 

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Call for Testers (New Snapshot!)

[Caroline Meeks]

On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:

> Hi Caroline,
>
> thanks for giving this a try! I added some comments below...
>
> By the way, would it be okay for you to get a final image by April 7th or
> do you need one earlier?


The ability to burn more then one USB at a time is still not working. If it
works April 7th is fine.  If it doesn't life is not going to be fun for me.

What of my wish list do you think I will get?

Thanks,
Caroline

>
>
>
>
>> *Here is my wish list.*
>>
>> Add to favorites Ring:
>> Slider Puzzle, Jigsaw Puzzle, Story Builder, Typing Turtle, Cartoon
>> Builder,
>>
>> Take out of the favorites Ring
>> Log, Terminal. Read
>>
>> Add a book or two for Read then add Read back to the favorites ring
>> Add Scratch and let me test it. It doesn't seem to be on the Activities
>> Portal yet.
>>
>> Fix:
>> Colors, Flipsticks and IRC and add the to the favorites Ring
>>
>>
>> I'm open to dissenting opinions here, this is just my current impressions
>> of what would make a good demo stick.
>>
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Call for Testers (New Snapshot!)

[Sebastian Dziallas]

Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> On 04.04.2009, at 00:17, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
> 
>> http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/2/Soas2-200904031934.iso
> 
> This does not boot in VMWare Fusion. It stops after writing out initrd. 
> 0..ready.
> 
> - Bert -

This has been confirmed to be a bug in F11's beta kernel (see here: 
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-livecd-list/2009-April/msg5.html).

It has been fixed in the latest kernel, but since we're going to use F11 
beta for the FOSSVT release, I guess it will stay around for a bit...

VirtualBox is apparently fine, though.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Call for Testers (New Snapshot!)

[Sebastian Dziallas]

Hi Caroline,

thanks for giving this a try! I added some comments below...

By the way, would it be okay for you to get a final image by April 7th 
or do you need one earlier?

Caroline Meeks wrote:
> Results
> 
> Boots up fine. Love the sugar branding!

Heh. :)

> There are a lot fewer activities in the ring then SoaS1

Well, that seems to be a matter of configuration by the package 
maintainers. We're now pulling the activities directly from a.sl.o, 
which means that those activities apparently don't get automatically 
fav'ed. Anyway, I guess we need to ping the maintainers on this?

> Memorize, Speak, Moon, Turtle, Jigsaw puzzel, joke book, typing turtle, 
> cartoon builder, Finance, Freecell
> - Work great. Sound works too

Hey, cool! Good to hear.

> Browse
> - "School" gives me an error.  I see why a school would want this link 
> on their system but it doesn't make sense to me to put out a page with a 
> broken link.
> - The arrow flashes annoyingly when web pages are loading on my X40
> 
> eToys
> - The screen flashes black a few times while it is loading its a bit 
> disconcerting
> 
> Maze
> - The icon seems a bit bit in the circle
> 
> Calculator
> - The font size and the curser seem a bit weird together. I took a picture.
> 
> Pippy
> -The Run, Stop and Clear buttons are a bit cut off. I took a picture
> 
> Read
> - Why have the read activity with nothing to read?

Yeah, we should probably include something here...

> Story Builder,
> 
> I haven't seen it before. Very cool! The characters seem a bit 
> pixilated, are they supposed to look like that?
> 
> flipsticks
> Either I am using it wrong or saving a firgure by clicking the bottom 
> circle does not work.
> 
> 
> Bounce, Colors
> 
> did not start

If we can't get those ready in time, they will be taken out for the release!

> IRC,
> Seemed to connect, and I got a message that my laptop SoaS2 had entered 
> the room but I couldn't actually see what people said in the room or see 
> what my laptop said while I was in the room.

Oh, okay... I had it working; strange.

> Yay! This is good! Its good enough for FOSSVT except for not having a 
> working collaboration server, but that's a different thread :)
> 
> *Here is my wish list.*
> 
> Add to favorites Ring:
> Slider Puzzle, Jigsaw Puzzle, Story Builder, Typing Turtle, Cartoon 
> Builder,
> 
> Take out of the favorites Ring
> Log, Terminal. Read
> 
> Add a book or two for Read then add Read back to the favorites ring
> Add Scratch and let me test it. It doesn't seem to be on the Activities 
> Portal yet.
> 
> Fix:
> Colors, Flipsticks and IRC and add the to the favorites Ring
> 
> 
> I'm open to dissenting opinions here, this is just my current 
> impressions of what would make a good demo stick.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Sebastian Dziallas  > wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> the SoaS team has another snapshot ready for testing - it's
> absolutely important that it get's tested as much as possible for
> our release!
> 
> You can grab it from here:
> 
> http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/2/Soas2-200904031934.iso
> 
> If you're going to put it on a USB key or a SD card under Linux,
> please make sure to use exactly this version of livecd-iso-to-disk,
> as you might encounter issues with other versions, which are around:
> 
> http://shell.sugarlabs.org/sdz/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh
> 
> There's also a new appliance snapshot available, but testing should
> really focus on the .iso file for now:
> 
> http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/appliances/soas2-20090403.tar.gz
> 
> What has changed?
> 
> * We're now supporting locales! You can change it in the control panel.
> * You'll notice our funky boot screen - no hotdog anymore... ;)
> * Browse has been updated - including skin and default page changes!
> 
> Again, please give it a try. And if you think that we should include
> this or that specific activity, make sure to come up with it!
> 
> So long, thanks and happy testing,
>   --Your SoaS Team
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Call for Testers (New Snapshot!)

[Lucian Branescu]

The ISO boots up fine in VirtualBox.

Again, the vmdk appliance doesn't. http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/677


2009/4/4 Sebastian Dziallas :
> Hi folks,
>
> the SoaS team has another snapshot ready for testing - it's absolutely
> important that it get's tested as much as possible for our release!
>
> You can grab it from here:
>
> http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/2/Soas2-200904031934.iso
>
> If you're going to put it on a USB key or a SD card under Linux, please
> make sure to use exactly this version of livecd-iso-to-disk, as you
> might encounter issues with other versions, which are around:
>
> http://shell.sugarlabs.org/sdz/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh
>
> There's also a new appliance snapshot available, but testing should
> really focus on the .iso file for now:
>
> http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/appliances/soas2-20090403.tar.gz
>
> What has changed?
>
> * We're now supporting locales! You can change it in the control panel.
> * You'll notice our funky boot screen - no hotdog anymore... ;)
> * Browse has been updated - including skin and default page changes!
>
> Again, please give it a try. And if you think that we should include
> this or that specific activity, make sure to come up with it!
>
> So long, thanks and happy testing,
>    --Your SoaS Team
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Call for Testers (New Snapshot!)

[Bert Freudenberg]

On 04.04.2009, at 00:17, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:

> http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/2/Soas2-200904031934.iso

This does not boot in VMWare Fusion. It stops after writing out initrd. 
0..ready.

- Bert -


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