Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with Music Blocks Wikipedia Page?

[devin]

A quick follow up on more substantial resources (from Japan):

Following links found in 
https://www.learning-innovation.go.jp/edtech-library/el004/ I find:


* 
https://www.learning-innovation.go.jp/existing/doc2019/verify_d0089_achievementreport.pdf#report
* 
https://www.learning-innovation.go.jp/existing/doc/a0003/verify_a0003_achievementreportN.pdf#report
* 
https://www.learning-innovation.go.jp/existing/doc/a0003/verify_a0003_interimreport.pdf?211230


These are pretty good references, I think. Unless someone else on this 
list would be qualified to interpret the Japanese, I will add them to my 
draft and just cross my fingers that these reviewers will approve of it.


At any rate, glad I found these!

Devin

On 2021-12-30 08:34, devin@ulibarri.website wrote:

Hi,

Thanks. Walter, that article is helpful because it is 3rd party, but
is probably not sufficiently substantial.

@All, I am currently working with the Wikipedia reviewers, and right
now the biggest challenge is they would much prefer to see the
Wikipedia article written by someone unaffiliated with the project.
Basically they are skeptical to my draft's "neutrality".

If someone on this list, unaffiliated with Music Blocks could read and
revise my draft at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Music_Blocks
for better neutrality that would be helpful. I think others doing
research on programming languages for kids would benefit to such a
reference on Wikipedia. Thanks in advanced!

Best,
Devin

On 2021-12-29 20:29, Walter Bender wrote:

Here is one reference to Music Blocks in Peru:

https://www.gob.pe/institucion/minedu/noticias/419064-tablets-para-aprendo-en-casa-tienen-36-aplicativos-educativos-y-10-utilitarios

On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 8:15 PM  wrote:


Hi,

Walter, media from Peru would be helpful. Thanks!

For Japan (other than the links that I already put in the draft), I
found the following:

https://gakko.site/wp/?s=%E5%AD%A6%E7%A0%94

https://gakko.site/wp/archives/1343

  --
https://gakko.site/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/08fb99790750785dc17b973f5b1c16d0.pdf

https://gakken-steam.jp/music_blocks/

https://www.learning-innovation.go.jp/edtech-library/el004/

https://www.kikoku-benricho.com/music-blocks/

https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/01947.02535.html

https://edtechzine.jp/article/detail/1802 and
https://edtechzine.jp/article/detail/1802?p=2

?? https://gkp-koushiki.gakken.jp/2018/12/07/5686/

?? https://www.nifty.com/?top20

On 2021-12-29 20:11, Walter Bender wrote:
> There must be some media mention of Music Blocks in Japan.
> Maybe I can dig something up from Peru.
>
> -walter
>
> On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 8:01 PM  wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am trying to write a Wikipedia article for Music Blocks because I
>> think it would be helpful reference for the broader public.
>>
>> So far, I have written:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Music_Blocks
>>
>> Do others, who are familiar with Wikipedia, have anything to
>> contribute?
>>
>> BTW, I started with
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snap!_(programming_language) as a
>> template
>> to start this draft.
>>
>> It would be helpful to have others contribute to the article,
>> especially
>> anyone not directly related to the project, as those contributions may
>> be necessary to the proposed article's admission into Wikipedia.
>>
>> Lastly, if anyone is familiar with other articles that have been
>> written
>> about Music Blocks, referencing those would be helpful.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Devin
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with Music Blocks Wikipedia Page?

[devin]

Hi,

Thanks. Walter, that article is helpful because it is 3rd party, but is 
probably not sufficiently substantial.


@All, I am currently working with the Wikipedia reviewers, and right now 
the biggest challenge is they would much prefer to see the Wikipedia 
article written by someone unaffiliated with the project. Basically they 
are skeptical to my draft's "neutrality".


If someone on this list, unaffiliated with Music Blocks could read and 
revise my draft at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Music_Blocks for 
better neutrality that would be helpful. I think others doing research 
on programming languages for kids would benefit to such a reference on 
Wikipedia. Thanks in advanced!


Best,
Devin

On 2021-12-29 20:29, Walter Bender wrote:

Here is one reference to Music Blocks in Peru:

https://www.gob.pe/institucion/minedu/noticias/419064-tablets-para-aprendo-en-casa-tienen-36-aplicativos-educativos-y-10-utilitarios

On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 8:15 PM  wrote:


Hi,

Walter, media from Peru would be helpful. Thanks!

For Japan (other than the links that I already put in the draft), I
found the following:

https://gakko.site/wp/?s=%E5%AD%A6%E7%A0%94

https://gakko.site/wp/archives/1343

  --
https://gakko.site/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/08fb99790750785dc17b973f5b1c16d0.pdf

https://gakken-steam.jp/music_blocks/

https://www.learning-innovation.go.jp/edtech-library/el004/

https://www.kikoku-benricho.com/music-blocks/

https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/01947.02535.html

https://edtechzine.jp/article/detail/1802 and
https://edtechzine.jp/article/detail/1802?p=2

?? https://gkp-koushiki.gakken.jp/2018/12/07/5686/

?? https://www.nifty.com/?top20

On 2021-12-29 20:11, Walter Bender wrote:
> There must be some media mention of Music Blocks in Japan.
> Maybe I can dig something up from Peru.
>
> -walter
>
> On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 8:01 PM  wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am trying to write a Wikipedia article for Music Blocks because I
>> think it would be helpful reference for the broader public.
>>
>> So far, I have written:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Music_Blocks
>>
>> Do others, who are familiar with Wikipedia, have anything to
>> contribute?
>>
>> BTW, I started with
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snap!_(programming_language) as a
>> template
>> to start this draft.
>>
>> It would be helpful to have others contribute to the article,
>> especially
>> anyone not directly related to the project, as those contributions may
>> be necessary to the proposed article's admission into Wikipedia.
>>
>> Lastly, if anyone is familiar with other articles that have been
>> written
>> about Music Blocks, referencing those would be helpful.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Devin
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with Music Blocks Wikipedia Page?

[Walter Bender]

Here is one reference to Music Blocks in Peru:

https://www.gob.pe/institucion/minedu/noticias/419064-tablets-para-aprendo-en-casa-tienen-36-aplicativos-educativos-y-10-utilitarios

On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 8:15 PM  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Walter, media from Peru would be helpful. Thanks!
>
> For Japan (other than the links that I already put in the draft), I
> found the following:
>
> https://gakko.site/wp/?s=%E5%AD%A6%E7%A0%94
>
> https://gakko.site/wp/archives/1343
>
>   --
> https://gakko.site/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/08fb99790750785dc17b973f5b1c16d0.pdf
>
> https://gakken-steam.jp/music_blocks/
>
> https://www.learning-innovation.go.jp/edtech-library/el004/
>
> https://www.kikoku-benricho.com/music-blocks/
>
> https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/01947.02535.html
>
> https://edtechzine.jp/article/detail/1802 and
> https://edtechzine.jp/article/detail/1802?p=2
>
> ?? https://gkp-koushiki.gakken.jp/2018/12/07/5686/
>
> ?? https://www.nifty.com/?top20
>
> On 2021-12-29 20:11, Walter Bender wrote:
> > There must be some media mention of Music Blocks in Japan.
> > Maybe I can dig something up from Peru.
> >
> > -walter
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 8:01 PM  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I am trying to write a Wikipedia article for Music Blocks because I
> >> think it would be helpful reference for the broader public.
> >>
> >> So far, I have written:
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Music_Blocks
> >>
> >> Do others, who are familiar with Wikipedia, have anything to
> >> contribute?
> >>
> >> BTW, I started with
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snap!_(programming_language) as a
> >> template
> >> to start this draft.
> >>
> >> It would be helpful to have others contribute to the article,
> >> especially
> >> anyone not directly related to the project, as those contributions may
> >> be necessary to the proposed article's admission into Wikipedia.
> >>
> >> Lastly, if anyone is familiar with other articles that have been
> >> written
> >> about Music Blocks, referencing those would be helpful.
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Devin
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with Music Blocks Wikipedia Page?

[devin]

Hi,

Walter, media from Peru would be helpful. Thanks!

For Japan (other than the links that I already put in the draft), I 
found the following:


https://gakko.site/wp/?s=%E5%AD%A6%E7%A0%94

https://gakko.site/wp/archives/1343

 --
https://gakko.site/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/08fb99790750785dc17b973f5b1c16d0.pdf

https://gakken-steam.jp/music_blocks/

https://www.learning-innovation.go.jp/edtech-library/el004/

https://www.kikoku-benricho.com/music-blocks/

https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/01947.02535.html

https://edtechzine.jp/article/detail/1802 and
https://edtechzine.jp/article/detail/1802?p=2

?? https://gkp-koushiki.gakken.jp/2018/12/07/5686/

?? https://www.nifty.com/?top20

On 2021-12-29 20:11, Walter Bender wrote:

There must be some media mention of Music Blocks in Japan.
Maybe I can dig something up from Peru.

-walter

On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 8:01 PM  wrote:


Hi All,

I am trying to write a Wikipedia article for Music Blocks because I
think it would be helpful reference for the broader public.

So far, I have written:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Music_Blocks

Do others, who are familiar with Wikipedia, have anything to 
contribute?


BTW, I started with
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snap!_(programming_language) as a 
template

to start this draft.

It would be helpful to have others contribute to the article, 
especially

anyone not directly related to the project, as those contributions may
be necessary to the proposed article's admission into Wikipedia.

Lastly, if anyone is familiar with other articles that have been 
written

about Music Blocks, referencing those would be helpful.

Thank you,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with Music Blocks Wikipedia Page?

[Walter Bender]

There must be some media mention of Music Blocks in Japan.
Maybe I can dig something up from Peru.

-walter

On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 8:01 PM  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I am trying to write a Wikipedia article for Music Blocks because I
> think it would be helpful reference for the broader public.
>
> So far, I have written:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Music_Blocks
>
> Do others, who are familiar with Wikipedia, have anything to contribute?
>
> BTW, I started with
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snap!_(programming_language) as a template
> to start this draft.
>
> It would be helpful to have others contribute to the article, especially
> anyone not directly related to the project, as those contributions may
> be necessary to the proposed article's admission into Wikipedia.
>
> Lastly, if anyone is familiar with other articles that have been written
> about Music Blocks, referencing those would be helpful.
>
> Thank you,
> Devin
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help in modifying sugar for testing

[Saumya Mishra]

Thanks James, This was the problem I was also facing while testing sugar
live build, My changes were not reflecting, Hope that helps.



On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 10:50 AM James Cameron  wrote:

> Yes, that's a problem I've seen before, and I reproduced it just now.
>
> Sugar Live Build includes /usr/src/sugar which is a clone of the Sugar
> repository, not a tarball.  When autogen, make and make install are
> run, the files are placed in site-packages, not dist-packages.
>
> site-packages is logically correct, but Debian does not look at
> site-packages when it runs Sugar.
>
> During build, we have a special step after make install;
>
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-live-build/blob/master/src/config/hooks/normal/0900-sugar.hook.chroot#L42
>
> So in addition to make install, you should also do;
>
> rm -rf /usr/lib/python3.7/dist-packages/jarabe/
> mv /usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/jarabe
> /usr/lib/python3.7/dist-packages/
>
> I've no explanation for "make: nothing to be done for 'main.py", the
> message makes no sense to me.  I don't see it when I test.
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 06:32:52AM +0200, su...@radii.dev wrote:
> > Based on [1]https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/blob/master/docs/
> > development-environment.md#sugar-live-build I am making changes to:
> > /usr/src/sugar/src/jarabe/main.py
> > and than
> > # make install
> > But nothing changes. I get message in the end
> > "make: nothing to be done for 'main.py"
> > Any help?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Manish
> >
> > References:
> >
> > [1]
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/blob/master/docs/development-environment.md#sugar-live-build
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help in modifying sugar for testing

[James Cameron]

Yes, that's a problem I've seen before, and I reproduced it just now.

Sugar Live Build includes /usr/src/sugar which is a clone of the Sugar
repository, not a tarball.  When autogen, make and make install are
run, the files are placed in site-packages, not dist-packages.

site-packages is logically correct, but Debian does not look at
site-packages when it runs Sugar.

During build, we have a special step after make install;
https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-live-build/blob/master/src/config/hooks/normal/0900-sugar.hook.chroot#L42

So in addition to make install, you should also do;

rm -rf /usr/lib/python3.7/dist-packages/jarabe/
mv /usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/jarabe /usr/lib/python3.7/dist-packages/

I've no explanation for "make: nothing to be done for 'main.py", the
message makes no sense to me.  I don't see it when I test.

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 06:32:52AM +0200, su...@radii.dev wrote:
> Based on [1]https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/blob/master/docs/
> development-environment.md#sugar-live-build I am making changes to:
> /usr/src/sugar/src/jarabe/main.py
> and than
> # make install
> But nothing changes. I get message in the end
> "make: nothing to be done for 'main.py"
> Any help?
> 
> Regards,
> Manish
> 
> References:
> 
> [1] 
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/blob/master/docs/development-environment.md#sugar-live-build

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Re: [Sugar-devel] help: projects coming in this year gsoc2020.

[ayush nawal]

These are the proposed ideas, we can add our own as well.
https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/blob/master/Ideas-2020.md

For more information, please visit https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 9:04 PM Swayam Samyak Debasis <
1234swayamsam...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I wanted to know which projects are likely to come in this year's GSoC
> 2020.Thanks.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [HELP] Introduction, GSOC 2020

[ayush nawal]

Hello Abhishek,

Welcome to the sugar labs, surely you will enjoy contributing here.

Firstly you should go through these sugar docs, you will find them much
helpful and they will give you a better understanding:
https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs

As you mentioned you wanted to port bounce activity to gtk +3, you can go
through this file specifically:
https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/src/gtk3-porting-guide.md

I hope this helps, All the best!



On Tue, 21 Jan, 2020, 4:44 pm Abhishek Tanwar, 
wrote:

> Hello sir
> Thank you for your response and valuable information . I have found 
> thesehttps://github.com/sugarlabs/arithmetic/issues/4 
> andhttps://github.com/sugarlabs/Bounce
> activities and I feel comfortable with the code and I want to port this
> activity to GTK +3.
>
> Is there any certain procedure that I am supposed to follow in order to
> contribute to these two tasks or can I straight away start with it.
>
> Thank you
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 3:31 AM James Cameron  wrote:
>
>> Welcome Abhishek,
>>
>> Of the opportunities to contribute, no more than about 2% are registered
>> as issues.  You should not use issues alone as a way to contribute.
>>
>> Other formal opportunities are listed as GitHub projects in the sugarlabs
>> organisation account, as GCI tasks, and as TODO or FIXME lines.  We also
>> have an instance of trac at bugs.sugarlabs.org with more problem reports
>> than we can ever solve.
>>
>> I've not seen your prior work, so I can't suggest anything in
>> particular.  I suggest you use my mailing list post "How to get started as
>> a Sugar Labs developer [v8]" which you'll find in the mailing list archives
>> on 18th November.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 06:23:19AM +0530, Abhishek Tanwar wrote:
>> > Hello everyone
>> >
>> > I am Abhishek Tanwar, a 3rd year Information Technology(IT) student from
>> > Bharati Vidyapeeth's College of Engineering ,New Delhi India . I am very
>> > impressed by the mission of Sugar Labs as a community and want to
>> contribute
>> > for the same to Sugar Labs .
>> >
>> > I am also looking to do GSOC 2020 with Sugar Labs as I have been
>> researching
>> > and exploring different branches under Sugar Labs. I have Sugar desktop
>> > environment setup and made a couple of activities to get familiar with
>> the
>> > working environment and Sugar Labs in general.I have a good experience
>> with
>> > python, javascript , Ethereum(Blockchain).
>> >
>> > Now I want to start contributing with the sugar labs community but I
>> can't find
>> > any end to start from. I have gone through the issues listed in Sugar
>> Labs
>> > Github repository but couldn't contribute.
>> > Any help would be appreciated.
>> >
>> > Also, I am sorry if I made any mistakes in this email . Please
>> correct me if I
>> > am wrong anywhere.
>> >
>> > Thank You
>> > Abhishek Tanwar
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [HELP] Introduction, GSOC 2020

[Abhishek Tanwar]

Hello sir
Thank you for your response and valuable information . I have found
thesehttps://github.com/sugarlabs/arithmetic/issues/4
andhttps://github.com/sugarlabs/Bounce
activities and I feel comfortable with the code and I want to port this
activity to GTK +3.

Is there any certain procedure that I am supposed to follow in order to
contribute to these two tasks or can I straight away start with it.

Thank you


On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 3:31 AM James Cameron  wrote:

> Welcome Abhishek,
>
> Of the opportunities to contribute, no more than about 2% are registered
> as issues.  You should not use issues alone as a way to contribute.
>
> Other formal opportunities are listed as GitHub projects in the sugarlabs
> organisation account, as GCI tasks, and as TODO or FIXME lines.  We also
> have an instance of trac at bugs.sugarlabs.org with more problem reports
> than we can ever solve.
>
> I've not seen your prior work, so I can't suggest anything in particular.
> I suggest you use my mailing list post "How to get started as a Sugar Labs
> developer [v8]" which you'll find in the mailing list archives on 18th
> November.
>
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 06:23:19AM +0530, Abhishek Tanwar wrote:
> > Hello everyone
> >
> > I am Abhishek Tanwar, a 3rd year Information Technology(IT) student from
> > Bharati Vidyapeeth's College of Engineering ,New Delhi India . I am very
> > impressed by the mission of Sugar Labs as a community and want to
> contribute
> > for the same to Sugar Labs .
> >
> > I am also looking to do GSOC 2020 with Sugar Labs as I have been
> researching
> > and exploring different branches under Sugar Labs. I have Sugar desktop
> > environment setup and made a couple of activities to get familiar with
> the
> > working environment and Sugar Labs in general.I have a good experience
> with
> > python, javascript , Ethereum(Blockchain).
> >
> > Now I want to start contributing with the sugar labs community but I
> can't find
> > any end to start from. I have gone through the issues listed in Sugar
> Labs
> > Github repository but couldn't contribute.
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > Also, I am sorry if I made any mistakes in this email . Please
> correct me if I
> > am wrong anywhere.
> >
> > Thank You
> > Abhishek Tanwar
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [HELP] Introduction, GSOC 2020

[Abhishek Tanwar]

Hello sir
Thank you for your response and valuable information . I have found these
https://github.com/sugarlabs/arithmetic/issues/4 and
https://github.com/sugarlabs/Bounce
activities and I feel comfortable with the code and I want to port this
activity to GTK +3.

Is there any certain procedure that I am supposed to follow in order to
contribute to these two tasks or can I straight away start with it.

Thank you

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 3:31 AM James Cameron  wrote:

> Welcome Abhishek,
>
> Of the opportunities to contribute, no more than about 2% are registered
> as issues.  You should not use issues alone as a way to contribute.
>
> Other formal opportunities are listed as GitHub projects in the sugarlabs
> organisation account, as GCI tasks, and as TODO or FIXME lines.  We also
> have an instance of trac at bugs.sugarlabs.org with more problem reports
> than we can ever solve.
>
> I've not seen your prior work, so I can't suggest anything in particular.
> I suggest you use my mailing list post "How to get started as a Sugar Labs
> developer [v8]" which you'll find in the mailing list archives on 18th
> November.
>
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 06:23:19AM +0530, Abhishek Tanwar wrote:
> > Hello everyone
> >
> > I am Abhishek Tanwar, a 3rd year Information Technology(IT) student from
> > Bharati Vidyapeeth's College of Engineering ,New Delhi India . I am very
> > impressed by the mission of Sugar Labs as a community and want to
> contribute
> > for the same to Sugar Labs .
> >
> > I am also looking to do GSOC 2020 with Sugar Labs as I have been
> researching
> > and exploring different branches under Sugar Labs. I have Sugar desktop
> > environment setup and made a couple of activities to get familiar with
> the
> > working environment and Sugar Labs in general.I have a good experience
> with
> > python, javascript , Ethereum(Blockchain).
> >
> > Now I want to start contributing with the sugar labs community but I
> can't find
> > any end to start from. I have gone through the issues listed in Sugar
> Labs
> > Github repository but couldn't contribute.
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > Also, I am sorry if I made any mistakes in this email . Please
> correct me if I
> > am wrong anywhere.
> >
> > Thank You
> > Abhishek Tanwar
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [HELP] Introduction, GSOC 2020

[James Cameron]

Welcome Abhishek,

Of the opportunities to contribute, no more than about 2% are registered as 
issues.  You should not use issues alone as a way to contribute.

Other formal opportunities are listed as GitHub projects in the sugarlabs 
organisation account, as GCI tasks, and as TODO or FIXME lines.  We also have 
an instance of trac at bugs.sugarlabs.org with more problem reports than we can 
ever solve.

I've not seen your prior work, so I can't suggest anything in particular.  I 
suggest you use my mailing list post "How to get started as a Sugar Labs 
developer [v8]" which you'll find in the mailing list archives on 18th November.

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 06:23:19AM +0530, Abhishek Tanwar wrote:
> Hello everyone
> 
> I am Abhishek Tanwar, a 3rd year Information Technology(IT) student from
> Bharati Vidyapeeth's College of Engineering ,New Delhi India . I am very
> impressed by the mission of Sugar Labs as a community and want to contribute
> for the same to Sugar Labs .
> 
> I am also looking to do GSOC 2020 with Sugar Labs as I have been researching
> and exploring different branches under Sugar Labs. I have Sugar desktop
> environment setup and made a couple of activities to get familiar with the
> working environment and Sugar Labs in general.I have a good experience with
> python, javascript , Ethereum(Blockchain).
> 
> Now I want to start contributing with the sugar labs community but I can't 
> find
> any end to start from. I have gone through the issues listed in Sugar Labs
> Github repository but couldn't contribute.
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Also, I am sorry if I made any mistakes in this email . Please correct me if I
> am wrong anywhere.
> 
> Thank You
> Abhishek Tanwar

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [HELP] cuidarme-activity not working

[James Cameron]

You should test Sugar activities inside Sugar.  While we accept
patches to make them run outside Sugar, it isn't a fault if they do
not do so.

Proceed further by diagnosing why the function returned None, with
reference to the GTK source code and interactive testing.

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 12:55:39AM +0530, Naman Nimmo wrote:
> Hello!
> I tried to start cuidarme-activity in sugar desktop but it gives a traceback
> (in the attached file). Any pointers on how to proceed further?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> -Naman
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [HELP] Writing activity that requires api key

[Naman Nimmo]

Thanks a lot @quozl
I'll let you know when I'm ready to release it.

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 1:55 AM James Cameron  wrote:

> Once upon a time this made it difficult.  It was discouraged.  It
> looked very different.  It behaved different.  It cost extra resources
> on a tiny laptop to ensure each different graphics API was present in
> memory and on disk.  So we decided on GTK only, because that's what
> Sugar home view uses.
>
> However, computers are larger, and a tkinter module is part of Python,
> so if you have working code using tkinter inside the sugar3 wrapper,
> with a toolbar and stop button that works, then I would accept it on
> the basis that;
>
> - people who want to use the activity in a school will make sure
>   tkinter is also installed,
>
> - somebody may later port to GTK.
>
> Please mention tkinter as a dependency in the README.md file (see
> README.md in the Record activity as an example), and maybe add
> requirements.txt as used by PyPi if you have any additional modules
> needed.
>
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 01:35:58AM +0530, Naman Nimmo wrote:
> > Will do, thanks!
> > Just on a side note-- the activity uses tkinter package. Is that
> allowed?
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 19, 2019, 01:21 James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org wrote:
> >
> > No worries.  Let us know what you decide to do.
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 09:28:53PM +0530, Naman Nimmo wrote:
> > > Thank you for the clarification :)
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 00:23 James Cameron <[1][2]qu...@laptop.org
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Whether it is safe for you depends on the terms and conditions
> of the
> > > agreement between you and the API vendor.
> > >
> > > For Sugar Labs to host and distribute your software, we
> require your
> > > source code to be covered by a license that would reveal the
> API key.
> > >
> > > It should be up to you how you resolve those two legal issues.
> > >
> > > If you need Sugar Labs to enter into an agreement with the API
> > vendor,
> > > contact the oversight board.  We would still reveal the key
> though.
> > >
> > > We have two other activities that have an API key clearly
> identified
> > > in the source code.  Random quote generator in TurtleBlocksJS,
> > > and currency conversion in Convert activity,
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 03:14:36PM +0530, Naman Nimmo wrote:
> > > > I'm writing a new activity and for that, I'm using an open
> weather
> > API
> > > but that
> > > > requires an API key which is personal. So is it safe to
> include my
> > key
> > > along
> > > > with the code? And if not, then how can I use that?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Naman
> > >
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> > >
> > > --
> > > James Cameron
> > > [4][5]http://quozl.netrek.org/
> > >
> > > References:
> > >
> > > [1] mailto:[6]qu...@laptop.org
> > > [2] mailto:[7]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [3] [8]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > > [4] [9]http://quozl.netrek.org/
> >
> > --
> > James Cameron
> > [10]http://quozl.netrek.org/
> >
> > References:
> >
> > [1] mailto:qu...@laptop.org
> > [2] mailto:qu...@laptop.org
> > [3] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [4] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [5] http://quozl.netrek.org/
> > [6] mailto:qu...@laptop.org
> > [7] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [8] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [9] http://quozl.netrek.org/
> > [10] http://quozl.netrek.org/
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [HELP] Writing activity that requires api key

[James Cameron]

Once upon a time this made it difficult.  It was discouraged.  It
looked very different.  It behaved different.  It cost extra resources
on a tiny laptop to ensure each different graphics API was present in
memory and on disk.  So we decided on GTK only, because that's what
Sugar home view uses.

However, computers are larger, and a tkinter module is part of Python,
so if you have working code using tkinter inside the sugar3 wrapper,
with a toolbar and stop button that works, then I would accept it on
the basis that;

- people who want to use the activity in a school will make sure
  tkinter is also installed,

- somebody may later port to GTK.

Please mention tkinter as a dependency in the README.md file (see
README.md in the Record activity as an example), and maybe add
requirements.txt as used by PyPi if you have any additional modules
needed.

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 01:35:58AM +0530, Naman Nimmo wrote:
> Will do, thanks!
> Just on a side note-- the activity uses tkinter package. Is that allowed? 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2019, 01:21 James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org wrote:
> 
> No worries.  Let us know what you decide to do.
> 
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 09:28:53PM +0530, Naman Nimmo wrote:
> > Thank you for the clarification :)
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 00:23 James Cameron <[1][2]qu...@laptop.org wrote:
> >
> >     Whether it is safe for you depends on the terms and conditions of 
> the
> >     agreement between you and the API vendor.
> >
> >     For Sugar Labs to host and distribute your software, we require your
> >     source code to be covered by a license that would reveal the API 
> key.
> >
> >     It should be up to you how you resolve those two legal issues.
> >
> >     If you need Sugar Labs to enter into an agreement with the API
> vendor,
> >     contact the oversight board.  We would still reveal the key though.
> >
> >     We have two other activities that have an API key clearly identified
> >     in the source code.  Random quote generator in TurtleBlocksJS,
> >     and currency conversion in Convert activity,
> >
> >     On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 03:14:36PM +0530, Naman Nimmo wrote:
> >     > I'm writing a new activity and for that, I'm using an open weather
> API
> >     but that
> >     > requires an API key which is personal. So is it safe to include my
> key
> >     along
> >     > with the code? And if not, then how can I use that? 
> >     >
> >     > Regards,
> >     > Naman
> >
> >     > ___
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> >     > [2][3]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> >     > [3][4]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> >
> >     --
> >     James Cameron
> >     [4][5]http://quozl.netrek.org/
> >
> > References:
> >
> > [1] mailto:[6]qu...@laptop.org
> > [2] mailto:[7]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [3] [8]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [4] [9]http://quozl.netrek.org/
> 
> --
> James Cameron
> [10]http://quozl.netrek.org/
> 
> References:
> 
> [1] mailto:qu...@laptop.org
> [2] mailto:qu...@laptop.org
> [3] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> [4] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [5] http://quozl.netrek.org/
> [6] mailto:qu...@laptop.org
> [7] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> [8] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [9] http://quozl.netrek.org/
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [HELP] Writing activity that requires api key

[Naman Nimmo]

Will do, thanks!
Just on a side note-- the activity uses tkinter package. Is that allowed?

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019, 01:21 James Cameron  No worries.  Let us know what you decide to do.
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 09:28:53PM +0530, Naman Nimmo wrote:
> > Thank you for the clarification :)
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 00:23 James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org wrote:
> >
> > Whether it is safe for you depends on the terms and conditions of the
> > agreement between you and the API vendor.
> >
> > For Sugar Labs to host and distribute your software, we require your
> > source code to be covered by a license that would reveal the API key.
> >
> > It should be up to you how you resolve those two legal issues.
> >
> > If you need Sugar Labs to enter into an agreement with the API
> vendor,
> > contact the oversight board.  We would still reveal the key though.
> >
> > We have two other activities that have an API key clearly identified
> > in the source code.  Random quote generator in TurtleBlocksJS,
> > and currency conversion in Convert activity,
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 03:14:36PM +0530, Naman Nimmo wrote:
> > > I'm writing a new activity and for that, I'm using an open weather
> API
> > but that
> > > requires an API key which is personal. So is it safe to include my
> key
> > along
> > > with the code? And if not, then how can I use that?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Naman
> >
> > > ___
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> > > [2]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [3]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> >
> > --
> > James Cameron
> > [4]http://quozl.netrek.org/
> >
> > References:
> >
> > [1] mailto:qu...@laptop.org
> > [2] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [3] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [4] http://quozl.netrek.org/
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [HELP] Writing activity that requires api key

[James Cameron]

No worries.  Let us know what you decide to do.

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 09:28:53PM +0530, Naman Nimmo wrote:
> Thank you for the clarification :)
> 
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 00:23 James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org wrote:
> 
> Whether it is safe for you depends on the terms and conditions of the
> agreement between you and the API vendor.
> 
> For Sugar Labs to host and distribute your software, we require your
> source code to be covered by a license that would reveal the API key.
> 
> It should be up to you how you resolve those two legal issues.
> 
> If you need Sugar Labs to enter into an agreement with the API vendor,
> contact the oversight board.  We would still reveal the key though.
> 
> We have two other activities that have an API key clearly identified
> in the source code.  Random quote generator in TurtleBlocksJS,
> and currency conversion in Convert activity,
> 
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 03:14:36PM +0530, Naman Nimmo wrote:
> > I'm writing a new activity and for that, I'm using an open weather API
> but that
> > requires an API key which is personal. So is it safe to include my key
> along
> > with the code? And if not, then how can I use that? 
> >
> > Regards,
> > Naman
> 
> > ___
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> > [2]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [3]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> 
> --
> James Cameron
> [4]http://quozl.netrek.org/
> 
> References:
> 
> [1] mailto:qu...@laptop.org
> [2] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> [3] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [4] http://quozl.netrek.org/

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [HELP] Writing activity that requires api key

[Naman Nimmo]

Thank you for the clarification :)

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 00:23 James Cameron  Whether it is safe for you depends on the terms and conditions of the
> agreement between you and the API vendor.
>
> For Sugar Labs to host and distribute your software, we require your
> source code to be covered by a license that would reveal the API key.
>
> It should be up to you how you resolve those two legal issues.
>
> If you need Sugar Labs to enter into an agreement with the API vendor,
> contact the oversight board.  We would still reveal the key though.
>
> We have two other activities that have an API key clearly identified
> in the source code.  Random quote generator in TurtleBlocksJS,
> and currency conversion in Convert activity,
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 03:14:36PM +0530, Naman Nimmo wrote:
> > I'm writing a new activity and for that, I'm using an open weather API
> but that
> > requires an API key which is personal. So is it safe to include my key
> along
> > with the code? And if not, then how can I use that?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Naman
>
> > ___
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> > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
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>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [HELP] Writing activity that requires api key

[James Cameron]

Whether it is safe for you depends on the terms and conditions of the
agreement between you and the API vendor.

For Sugar Labs to host and distribute your software, we require your
source code to be covered by a license that would reveal the API key.

It should be up to you how you resolve those two legal issues.

If you need Sugar Labs to enter into an agreement with the API vendor,
contact the oversight board.  We would still reveal the key though.

We have two other activities that have an API key clearly identified
in the source code.  Random quote generator in TurtleBlocksJS,
and currency conversion in Convert activity,

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 03:14:36PM +0530, Naman Nimmo wrote:
> I'm writing a new activity and for that, I'm using an open weather API but 
> that
> requires an API key which is personal. So is it safe to include my key along
> with the code? And if not, then how can I use that? 
> 
> Regards,
> Naman

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [HELP] setting up a development environment

[James Cameron]

Yes, only critical packages were installed, to keep the build size
down.  sudo is optional on Debian.

To install sudo; apt install sudo

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 05:20:00PM +0530, Kushagra Gupta wrote:
> Thanks! I forgot about su existing.
> 
> On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 17:14, Naman Nimmo <[1]namanger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Try using "su" instead of sudo
> 
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 17:11 Kushagra Gupta <[2]kushgp...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I tried to install the live build on a virtual machine in virtualbox.
> But the installed build does not have sudo and i can't login with the
> root account there. So I am kinda stuck here. Any help would be
> appreciated.
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> 
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> [2] mailto:kushgp...@gmail.com
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [HELP] setting up a development environment

[Kushagra Gupta]

Thanks! I forgot about su existing.

On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 17:14, Naman Nimmo  wrote:

> Try using "su" instead of sudo
>
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 17:11 Kushagra Gupta 
>> I tried to install the live build on a virtual machine in virtualbox. But
>> the installed build does not have sudo and i can't login with the root
>> account there. So I am kinda stuck here. Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [HELP] setting up a development environment

[Naman Nimmo]

Try using "su" instead of sudo

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 17:11 Kushagra Gupta  I tried to install the live build on a virtual machine in virtualbox. But
> the installed build does not have sudo and i can't login with the root
> account there. So I am kinda stuck here. Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] help

[James Cameron]

Thanks for asking for help with the mailing list.  You can find
documentation on Mailman software using a search engine.

I've turned off digest mode for your subscription, so that subject
threads are not broken.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Help] Connect two french students with OLPC deployments in various countries?

[Bastien]

Dear all,

we didn't receive any answer to this question: "how to get in touch
with schools or places in south america where XO are still in used?"

This would be very helpful to have, if not direct contacts, at least
some ideas on how to find them.

Thanks again!

Bastien  writes:

> OLPC France has been in touch with two students who will organize
> IT workshops for children in various countries in Asia (India,
> Bangladesh, Myanmar, Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand) and South
> America (Brazil, Paraguay, Argentina, Chile, Bolivia, Peru).
>
> OLPC France will give them two XO laptops.
>
> What is the best way to let them know people who are still active
> on OLPC deployments in these countries?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Help] Connect two french students with OLPC deployments in various countries?

[Alex Perez]

Bastien,

Thanks for reaching out. Do you know which specific version of XO 
laptops these students were/will be given?


Is the e-mail address you CC'ed when you e-mailed sugar-devel the 
address of one of the students you mention? Joining and e-mailing 
i...@lists.sugarlabs.org may yield more useful information, since that 
is our general purpose list, and sugar-devel is (supposed to be) focused 
on actual development :)


Bastien wrote on 5/21/19 9:26 AM:

Hi Sugar,

OLPC France has been in touch with two students who will organize
IT workshops for children in various countries in Asia (India,
Bangladesh, Myanmar, Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand) and South
America (Brazil, Paraguay, Argentina, Chile, Bolivia, Peru).

OLPC France will give them two XO laptops.

What is the best way to let them know people who are still active
on OLPC deployments in these countries?

I CC them -- don't forget to keep them in the loop or to send them
OLPC contacts thay you may have in these countries.

Below is their message.

Thanks a lot in advance for your help.



We are two students in IT school in France with the following project:
In one year, we will go to Asia (India, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Laos,
Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand) and South America (Brazil, Paraguay,
Argentina, Chile, Bolivia, Peru) to meet local children and student to
share our IT knowledge.

Following our studies, we are convinced of the opportunities, but also
the dangers of IT for anyone. That’s why we want to awaken people to
IT. But instead of creating a global workshop, we want to respond to a
real need in local countries.

To achieve that, we want to create our workshops based on OLPC
initiative. OLPC France will lend us 2 XO computers. But to make our
initiative more relevant, we want to respond to a real need in each
country. For that reason, we want to exchange and discuss with
experienced people to obtain a better understanding of the situation
to build relevant workshops.

Based on your experience , do you know some person with this kind of
experience or knowledge? Your help will be very appreciated in any
subject (kind of population in need, contact of local IT school,
problems about IT, IT domain in need of qualified people, etc…)

Thank you in advance !





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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help-21 fails to start

[Tony Anderson]

James,

Thanks for getting me on the right track.

unzipp help-activity-master.zip (download from Godiard's github repo)
install sphinx (pippy install python-sphinx).
go to the unzipped help-activity folder:
    cd /home/tony/Downloads/help-activity-master
    make html
using Nautilus (files), open html/index.html in browser.

This works independent of Sugar.

Tony

On 3/7/19 3:02 PM, Tony Anderson wrote:

Thanks. I'll keep trying to see if I can find a path.

Tony

On 3/7/19 2:47 PM, James Cameron wrote:

Yes, as I said, both Sphinx and "make html" are needed before making
the bundle.

On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 02:43:33PM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote:
I am trying to install help-20 (from Godiard's repository). I 
downloaded the
zip and put it in an XO-1.75 in /home/olpc/Documents. I then 
unzipped it and

ran python setup.py dist_xo. I then installed the activity via
sugar-install-bundle. However, it behaves as before.

I am speculating that what is expected to happen is that the html 
versions
of the documentation are to be created via the make html. I am 
speculating
that this make command depends on an installed python-sphinx 
package. I was
able to install the Sphinx on my Ubuntu laptop by pippy. However, 
pippy does

not appear to be installed on the XO's.

My next step is to try the make html to see if it generates the html
version.

Tony


On 3/6/19 11:25 AM, James Cameron wrote:

Thanks for your interest.

There's no Help-21 yet.  Latest is Help-20.

https://github.com/godiard/help-activity is the most recent source
code, not https://github.com/sugarlabs/help-activity.  The latter is
an informative fork.

There should be no html/index.html file in the repository, as it is a
file generated by building.  The repository is not an activity bundle,
but source code for building an activity bundle.  The instructions to
build the bundle include
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Help/Contribute#How_to_get_freshest_Help_sources, 


in particular the dependencies such as Sphinx must be installed, then
use "make html", and the dist_xo target of setup.py

You'll also see that setup.py is quite different to other activities.

I'm yet to make a new release of Help since v20 in 2015, but it is on
my list to do.  In deploying it as v20.1 on OLPC laptops, I maintain a
separate branch, and patch the Sugar version to match what is
installed.

https://github.com/godiard/help-activity/issues has a list of issues.

On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 10:41:11AM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote:
The version of the Help activity in github.com/sugarlabs has only 
an es

folder in the html folder. It fails to start when trying to display
html/inde.html (not found).

Tony

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help-21 fails to start

[Tony Anderson]

Thanks. I'll keep trying to see if I can find a path.

Tony

On 3/7/19 2:47 PM, James Cameron wrote:

Yes, as I said, both Sphinx and "make html" are needed before making
the bundle.

On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 02:43:33PM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote:

I am trying to install help-20 (from Godiard's repository). I downloaded the
zip and put it in an XO-1.75 in /home/olpc/Documents. I then unzipped it and
ran python setup.py dist_xo. I then installed the activity via
sugar-install-bundle. However, it behaves as before.

I am speculating that what is expected to happen is that the html versions
of the documentation are to be created via the make html. I am speculating
that this make command depends on an installed python-sphinx package. I was
able to install the Sphinx on my Ubuntu laptop by pippy. However, pippy does
not appear to be installed on the XO's.

My next step is to try the make html to see if it generates the html
version.

Tony


On 3/6/19 11:25 AM, James Cameron wrote:

Thanks for your interest.

There's no Help-21 yet.  Latest is Help-20.

https://github.com/godiard/help-activity is the most recent source
code, not https://github.com/sugarlabs/help-activity.  The latter is
an informative fork.

There should be no html/index.html file in the repository, as it is a
file generated by building.  The repository is not an activity bundle,
but source code for building an activity bundle.  The instructions to
build the bundle include
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Help/Contribute#How_to_get_freshest_Help_sources,
in particular the dependencies such as Sphinx must be installed, then
use "make html", and the dist_xo target of setup.py

You'll also see that setup.py is quite different to other activities.

I'm yet to make a new release of Help since v20 in 2015, but it is on
my list to do.  In deploying it as v20.1 on OLPC laptops, I maintain a
separate branch, and patch the Sugar version to match what is
installed.

https://github.com/godiard/help-activity/issues has a list of issues.

On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 10:41:11AM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote:

The version of the Help activity in github.com/sugarlabs has only an es
folder in the html folder. It fails to start when trying to display
html/inde.html (not found).

Tony

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help-21 fails to start

[James Cameron]

Yes, as I said, both Sphinx and "make html" are needed before making
the bundle.

On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 02:43:33PM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote:
> I am trying to install help-20 (from Godiard's repository). I downloaded the
> zip and put it in an XO-1.75 in /home/olpc/Documents. I then unzipped it and
> ran python setup.py dist_xo. I then installed the activity via
> sugar-install-bundle. However, it behaves as before.
> 
> I am speculating that what is expected to happen is that the html versions
> of the documentation are to be created via the make html. I am speculating
> that this make command depends on an installed python-sphinx package. I was
> able to install the Sphinx on my Ubuntu laptop by pippy. However, pippy does
> not appear to be installed on the XO's.
> 
> My next step is to try the make html to see if it generates the html
> version.
> 
> Tony
> 
> 
> On 3/6/19 11:25 AM, James Cameron wrote:
> >Thanks for your interest.
> >
> >There's no Help-21 yet.  Latest is Help-20.
> >
> >https://github.com/godiard/help-activity is the most recent source
> >code, not https://github.com/sugarlabs/help-activity.  The latter is
> >an informative fork.
> >
> >There should be no html/index.html file in the repository, as it is a
> >file generated by building.  The repository is not an activity bundle,
> >but source code for building an activity bundle.  The instructions to
> >build the bundle include
> >http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Help/Contribute#How_to_get_freshest_Help_sources,
> >in particular the dependencies such as Sphinx must be installed, then
> >use "make html", and the dist_xo target of setup.py
> >
> >You'll also see that setup.py is quite different to other activities.
> >
> >I'm yet to make a new release of Help since v20 in 2015, but it is on
> >my list to do.  In deploying it as v20.1 on OLPC laptops, I maintain a
> >separate branch, and patch the Sugar version to match what is
> >installed.
> >
> >https://github.com/godiard/help-activity/issues has a list of issues.
> >
> >On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 10:41:11AM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote:
> >>The version of the Help activity in github.com/sugarlabs has only an es
> >>folder in the html folder. It fails to start when trying to display
> >>html/inde.html (not found).
> >>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help-21 fails to start

[Tony Anderson]

I am trying to install help-20 (from Godiard's repository). I downloaded 
the zip and put it in an XO-1.75 in /home/olpc/Documents. I then 
unzipped it and ran python setup.py dist_xo. I then installed the 
activity via sugar-install-bundle. However, it behaves as before.


I am speculating that what is expected to happen is that the html 
versions of the documentation are to be created via the make html. I am 
speculating that this make command depends on an installed python-sphinx 
package. I was able to install the Sphinx on my Ubuntu laptop by pippy. 
However, pippy does not appear to be installed on the XO's.


My next step is to try the make html to see if it generates the html 
version.


Tony


On 3/6/19 11:25 AM, James Cameron wrote:

Thanks for your interest.

There's no Help-21 yet.  Latest is Help-20.

https://github.com/godiard/help-activity is the most recent source
code, not https://github.com/sugarlabs/help-activity.  The latter is
an informative fork.

There should be no html/index.html file in the repository, as it is a
file generated by building.  The repository is not an activity bundle,
but source code for building an activity bundle.  The instructions to
build the bundle include
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Help/Contribute#How_to_get_freshest_Help_sources,
in particular the dependencies such as Sphinx must be installed, then
use "make html", and the dist_xo target of setup.py

You'll also see that setup.py is quite different to other activities.

I'm yet to make a new release of Help since v20 in 2015, but it is on
my list to do.  In deploying it as v20.1 on OLPC laptops, I maintain a
separate branch, and patch the Sugar version to match what is
installed.

https://github.com/godiard/help-activity/issues has a list of issues.

On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 10:41:11AM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote:

The version of the Help activity in github.com/sugarlabs has only an es
folder in the html folder. It fails to start when trying to display
html/inde.html (not found).

Tony

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help-21 fails to start

[James Cameron]

Thanks for your interest.

There's no Help-21 yet.  Latest is Help-20.

https://github.com/godiard/help-activity is the most recent source
code, not https://github.com/sugarlabs/help-activity.  The latter is
an informative fork.

There should be no html/index.html file in the repository, as it is a
file generated by building.  The repository is not an activity bundle,
but source code for building an activity bundle.  The instructions to
build the bundle include
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Help/Contribute#How_to_get_freshest_Help_sources,
in particular the dependencies such as Sphinx must be installed, then
use "make html", and the dist_xo target of setup.py

You'll also see that setup.py is quite different to other activities.

I'm yet to make a new release of Help since v20 in 2015, but it is on
my list to do.  In deploying it as v20.1 on OLPC laptops, I maintain a
separate branch, and patch the Sugar version to match what is
installed.

https://github.com/godiard/help-activity/issues has a list of issues.

On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 10:41:11AM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote:
> The version of the Help activity in github.com/sugarlabs has only an es
> folder in the html folder. It fails to start when trying to display
> html/inde.html (not found).
> 
> Tony
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help on Music blocks

[James Cameron]

Best not to speculate, let's wait for Joel to answer.

I confirm Joel is subscribed to the mailing list.

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 12:45:34AM +0530, Sumit Srivastava wrote:
> I guess he wants to get started with MB, perhaps.
> 
> On Sun, 9 Dec 2018, 11:40 pm Walter Bender,  wrote:
> 
> Not sure what you are asking. 
> 
> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018, 12:14 PM Joel Arrey  
> Hello guys any one with an idea on working on music blocks

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help on Music blocks

[Sumit Srivastava]

I guess he wants to get started with MB, perhaps.

On Sun, 9 Dec 2018, 11:40 pm Walter Bender,  wrote:

> Not sure what you are asking.
>
> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018, 12:14 PM Joel Arrey 
>> Hello guys any one with an idea on working on music blocks
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help on Music blocks

[Walter Bender]

Not sure what you are asking.

On Sun, Dec 9, 2018, 12:14 PM Joel Arrey  Hello guys any one with an idea on working on music blocks
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help on sugarizer data store

[Freddie N]

Hi Joel,

Have you had a look at the sugarizer datastore tutorial?
https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugarizer/blob/master/docs/tutorial_step4.md

I found it really helpful when starting out (the entire tutorial is a great
intro to developing with sugarizer). If you have already seen it, perhaps
you could give more detail on what is causing issues. I’m often on IRC
#sugar and would be happy to help there aswell.

Good luck!
Freddie
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help on creating an activity for sugarizer

[James Cameron]

No.

If the activity has no need for saved state, you should be able
to ignore step 4 in the tutorial.

If the activity is for one user at a time, you should be able to
ignore step 6 in the tutorial.

Have a look at the source code of the other activities to see how they
use journal or multi-user.

On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 05:02:48AM +0100, Joel Arrey wrote:
> Hello everyone please i have some question to ask about creating an activity
> for sugarizer.
> 1) Is it really a most to handle journal and datastore?
> 2)And to handle multi-user with presence

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help soas is not building in fedora30 rawhide

[Frederick Grose]

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 5:03 PM Thomas Gilliard  wrote:
>
> Helpsoas is not building in fedora30 rawhide

The livemedia.log shows this error report:
...
2018-11-16 17:02:07,578 INFO pylorax: Non interactive installation failed:
2018-11-16 17:02:07,579 INFO pylorax: Problem: conflicting requests
2018-11-16 17:02:07,579 INFO pylorax: - nothing provides
ld-linux-armhf.so.3 needed by sugar-pippy-72-1.fc30.x86_64
2018-11-16 17:02:07,579 INFO pylorax: - nothing provides
ld-linux-armhf.so.3(GLIBC_2.4) needed by sugar-pippy-72-1.fc30.x86_64
2018-11-16 17:02:07,579 INFO pylorax: - nothing provides
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.5) needed by sugar-pippy-72-1.fc30.x86_64
2018-11-16 17:02:07,579 INFO pylorax: - nothing provides
libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_ARM_1.3.3) needed by
sugar-pippy-72-1.fc30.x86_64.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with setting up sugar-build on Ubuntu 16.04

[Utkarsh Tiwari]

Hi,

I didn't get a chance to retry those fixes. Instead, I am using sugar-build
on my old Ubuntu 14.04 installation.

Regards,
Utkarsh Tiwari

On Fri 1 Dec, 2017, 6:19 AM James Cameron,  wrote:

> Any progress on this, Utkarsh?
>
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 08:38:44PM +1100, James Cameron wrote:
> > Yes, please do.  You faced at least two issues that you could add.  You
> may have faced others that you solved before asking?
> >
> > The old page mentioned several issues with using sugar-build, but (a) we
> are not using sugar-build now, and (b) some of those issues won’t be
> relevant to downloading a live build, installing packages, or git clones.
> >
> > Just don’t fall into the trap of documenting what others have already
> documented somewhere else.
> >
> > > On 24 Nov 2017, at 7:02 pm, Utkarsh Tiwari 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I agree but it would be also helpful if we could add a fix section
> (similar to the old developer.md page) for commonly faced issues while
> setting up the development environment. In this way newcomers can resolve
> the errors themselves. Let's see what others suggest.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Utkarsh Tiwari
> > >
> > > On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 at 01:36 James Cameron  wrote:
> > > This has nothing to do with sugar-build.
> > >
> > > Please include small errors in the body of mail so that your readers
> don’t have to reach out to a web browser to get them, and so that mail can
> be searched for keywords in the errors.
> > >
> > > The error this time was "E: Unable to find a source package for
> sugar-datastore”, and then repeated for each module.
> > >
> > > It will be caused by not having deb-src lines in your
> /etc/apt/sources.list file.  Add the lines, do an apt update, then try
> again.
> > >
> > > Added new issue #126 to sugar-docs.
> > > https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/issues/126
> > >
> > > For discussion, I propose that the native build section be removed
> from the documentation, because it isn’t understood well enough, isn’t
> needed by most developers, and removing it is simpler than fixing it.
> > >
> > > > On 24 Nov 2017, at 2:27 am, Utkarsh Tiwari <
> iamutkarshtiw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you Glide for your suggestion. I tried running the
> instructions in su mode but still getting these issues -
> https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/84742d622a1d221bd1c814ce98baa32e
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Utkarsh Tiwari
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 at 20:50 Glide 
> wrote:
> > > > Hello there,
> > > >
> > > > From what i've seen in the logs and to the best of my knowledge, it
> seems you need to run as root, to gain root access, run su in your terminal.
> > > >
> > > > I hope this works for you.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari <
> iamutkarshtiw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hello everyone,
> > > >
> > > > I am trying to setup sugar-build on my fresh Ubuntu 16.04
> installation. I tried instructions mentioned in -
> https://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html#native%20sugar
> but I seem to facing issues while trying to run -
> https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/107558814db2c9ed57f081b9f353536b
> > > >
> > > > Here is the log -
> https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/347a3f13dcfd1eeb0788dda38d95b0e4
> > > >
> > > > It would be helpful if someone could guide me if I am missing out
> something.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Utkarsh Tiwari
> > > >
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with setting up sugar-build on Ubuntu 16.04

[James Cameron]

Any progress on this, Utkarsh?

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 08:38:44PM +1100, James Cameron wrote:
> Yes, please do.  You faced at least two issues that you could add.  You may 
> have faced others that you solved before asking?
> 
> The old page mentioned several issues with using sugar-build, but (a) we are 
> not using sugar-build now, and (b) some of those issues won’t be relevant to 
> downloading a live build, installing packages, or git clones.
> 
> Just don’t fall into the trap of documenting what others have already 
> documented somewhere else.
> 
> > On 24 Nov 2017, at 7:02 pm, Utkarsh Tiwari  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I agree but it would be also helpful if we could add a fix section (similar 
> > to the old developer.md page) for commonly faced issues while setting up 
> > the development environment. In this way newcomers can resolve the errors 
> > themselves. Let's see what others suggest.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Utkarsh Tiwari
> > 
> > On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 at 01:36 James Cameron  wrote:
> > This has nothing to do with sugar-build.
> > 
> > Please include small errors in the body of mail so that your readers don’t 
> > have to reach out to a web browser to get them, and so that mail can be 
> > searched for keywords in the errors.
> > 
> > The error this time was "E: Unable to find a source package for 
> > sugar-datastore”, and then repeated for each module.
> > 
> > It will be caused by not having deb-src lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list 
> > file.  Add the lines, do an apt update, then try again.
> > 
> > Added new issue #126 to sugar-docs.
> > https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/issues/126
> > 
> > For discussion, I propose that the native build section be removed from the 
> > documentation, because it isn’t understood well enough, isn’t needed by 
> > most developers, and removing it is simpler than fixing it.
> > 
> > > On 24 Nov 2017, at 2:27 am, Utkarsh Tiwari  
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Thank you Glide for your suggestion. I tried running the instructions in 
> > > su mode but still getting these issues - 
> > > https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/84742d622a1d221bd1c814ce98baa32e
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Utkarsh Tiwari
> > >
> > > On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 at 20:50 Glide  wrote:
> > > Hello there,
> > >
> > > From what i've seen in the logs and to the best of my knowledge, it seems 
> > > you need to run as root, to gain root access, run su in your terminal.
> > >
> > > I hope this works for you.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari 
> > >  wrote:
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > I am trying to setup sugar-build on my fresh Ubuntu 16.04 installation. I 
> > > tried instructions mentioned in - 
> > > https://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html#native%20sugar 
> > > but I seem to facing issues while trying to run - 
> > > https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/107558814db2c9ed57f081b9f353536b
> > >
> > > Here is the log - 
> > > https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/347a3f13dcfd1eeb0788dda38d95b0e4
> > >
> > > It would be helpful if someone could guide me if I am missing out 
> > > something.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Utkarsh Tiwari
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with setting up sugar-build on Ubuntu 16.04

[James Cameron]

Yes, please do.  You faced at least two issues that you could add.  You may 
have faced others that you solved before asking?

The old page mentioned several issues with using sugar-build, but (a) we are 
not using sugar-build now, and (b) some of those issues won’t be relevant to 
downloading a live build, installing packages, or git clones.

Just don’t fall into the trap of documenting what others have already 
documented somewhere else.

> On 24 Nov 2017, at 7:02 pm, Utkarsh Tiwari  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I agree but it would be also helpful if we could add a fix section (similar 
> to the old developer.md page) for commonly faced issues while setting up the 
> development environment. In this way newcomers can resolve the errors 
> themselves. Let's see what others suggest.
> 
> Regards,
> Utkarsh Tiwari
> 
> On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 at 01:36 James Cameron  wrote:
> This has nothing to do with sugar-build.
> 
> Please include small errors in the body of mail so that your readers don’t 
> have to reach out to a web browser to get them, and so that mail can be 
> searched for keywords in the errors.
> 
> The error this time was "E: Unable to find a source package for 
> sugar-datastore”, and then repeated for each module.
> 
> It will be caused by not having deb-src lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list 
> file.  Add the lines, do an apt update, then try again.
> 
> Added new issue #126 to sugar-docs.
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/issues/126
> 
> For discussion, I propose that the native build section be removed from the 
> documentation, because it isn’t understood well enough, isn’t needed by most 
> developers, and removing it is simpler than fixing it.
> 
> > On 24 Nov 2017, at 2:27 am, Utkarsh Tiwari  
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thank you Glide for your suggestion. I tried running the instructions in su 
> > mode but still getting these issues - 
> > https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/84742d622a1d221bd1c814ce98baa32e
> >
> > Regards,
> > Utkarsh Tiwari
> >
> > On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 at 20:50 Glide  wrote:
> > Hello there,
> >
> > From what i've seen in the logs and to the best of my knowledge, it seems 
> > you need to run as root, to gain root access, run su in your terminal.
> >
> > I hope this works for you.
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari 
> >  wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I am trying to setup sugar-build on my fresh Ubuntu 16.04 installation. I 
> > tried instructions mentioned in - 
> > https://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html#native%20sugar but 
> > I seem to facing issues while trying to run - 
> > https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/107558814db2c9ed57f081b9f353536b
> >
> > Here is the log - 
> > https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/347a3f13dcfd1eeb0788dda38d95b0e4
> >
> > It would be helpful if someone could guide me if I am missing out something.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Utkarsh Tiwari
> >
> >
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with setting up sugar-build on Ubuntu 16.04

[Utkarsh Tiwari]

Hi,

I agree but it would be also helpful if we could add a fix section (similar
to the old developer.md page) for commonly faced issues while setting up
the development environment. In this way newcomers can resolve the errors
themselves. Let's see what others suggest.

Regards,
Utkarsh Tiwari

On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 at 01:36 James Cameron  wrote:

> This has nothing to do with sugar-build.
>
> Please include small errors in the body of mail so that your readers don’t
> have to reach out to a web browser to get them, and so that mail can be
> searched for keywords in the errors.
>
> The error this time was "E: Unable to find a source package for
> sugar-datastore”, and then repeated for each module.
>
> It will be caused by not having deb-src lines in your
> /etc/apt/sources.list file.  Add the lines, do an apt update, then try
> again.
>
> Added new issue #126 to sugar-docs.
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/issues/126
>
> For discussion, I propose that the native build section be removed from
> the documentation, because it isn’t understood well enough, isn’t needed by
> most developers, and removing it is simpler than fixing it.
>
> > On 24 Nov 2017, at 2:27 am, Utkarsh Tiwari 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thank you Glide for your suggestion. I tried running the instructions in
> su mode but still getting these issues -
> https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/84742d622a1d221bd1c814ce98baa32e
> >
> > Regards,
> > Utkarsh Tiwari
> >
> > On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 at 20:50 Glide  wrote:
> > Hello there,
> >
> > From what i've seen in the logs and to the best of my knowledge, it
> seems you need to run as root, to gain root access, run su in your terminal.
> >
> > I hope this works for you.
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari <
> iamutkarshtiw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I am trying to setup sugar-build on my fresh Ubuntu 16.04 installation.
> I tried instructions mentioned in -
> https://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html#native%20sugar
> but I seem to facing issues while trying to run -
> https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/107558814db2c9ed57f081b9f353536b
> >
> > Here is the log -
> https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/347a3f13dcfd1eeb0788dda38d95b0e4
> >
> > It would be helpful if someone could guide me if I am missing out
> something.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Utkarsh Tiwari
> >
> >
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with setting up sugar-build on Ubuntu 16.04

[James Cameron]

This has nothing to do with sugar-build.

Please include small errors in the body of mail so that your readers don’t have 
to reach out to a web browser to get them, and so that mail can be searched for 
keywords in the errors.

The error this time was "E: Unable to find a source package for 
sugar-datastore”, and then repeated for each module.

It will be caused by not having deb-src lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list 
file.  Add the lines, do an apt update, then try again.

Added new issue #126 to sugar-docs.
https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/issues/126

For discussion, I propose that the native build section be removed from the 
documentation, because it isn’t understood well enough, isn’t needed by most 
developers, and removing it is simpler than fixing it.

> On 24 Nov 2017, at 2:27 am, Utkarsh Tiwari  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thank you Glide for your suggestion. I tried running the instructions in su 
> mode but still getting these issues - 
> https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/84742d622a1d221bd1c814ce98baa32e
> 
> Regards,
> Utkarsh Tiwari
> 
> On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 at 20:50 Glide  wrote:
> Hello there,
> 
> From what i've seen in the logs and to the best of my knowledge, it seems you 
> need to run as root, to gain root access, run su in your terminal.
> 
> I hope this works for you.
> 
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari  
> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I am trying to setup sugar-build on my fresh Ubuntu 16.04 installation. I 
> tried instructions mentioned in - 
> https://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html#native%20sugar but I 
> seem to facing issues while trying to run - 
> https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/107558814db2c9ed57f081b9f353536b 
> 
> Here is the log - 
> https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/347a3f13dcfd1eeb0788dda38d95b0e4
> 
> It would be helpful if someone could guide me if I am missing out something.
> 
> Regards,
> Utkarsh Tiwari
> 
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with setting up sugar-build on Ubuntu 16.04

[Samson Goddy]

To my best of my knowledge, this is not from the sugar-build. There is
something wrong with the terminal, you might be running something under
background.

1. Try restarting the computer, if that doesn't work, do;

2. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1853026

Try this, and ping again if it works or not.


Regards

Samson



On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The instructions you just mentioned -
>
> for module in sugar{-datastore,-artwork,-toolkit,-toolkit-gtk3,}; do
> dnf builddep $module
> done
>
> works for Fedora whereas I am on Ubuntu 16.04 so I followed the
> instructions for Ubuntu/Debian -
>
> for module in sugar{-datastore,-artwork,-toolkit,-toolkit-gtk3,}; do
> apt build-dep $module
> done
>
> I think I should give it a try on Ubuntu 17.10. Will let you know if I
> come across a solution.
>
> Regards,
> Utkarsh Tiwari
>
> On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 at 21:48 Glide  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I just checked in the guides, you should be doing this when you want to
>> build, your logs show that you aren't:
>>
>> for module in sugar{-datastore,-artwork,-toolkit,-toolkit-gtk3,}; do
>> dnf builddep $module
>> done
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Glide 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> Are you sure you ran the git clone request properly?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari <
>>> iamutkarshtiw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 Thank you Glide for your suggestion. I tried running the instructions
 in su mode but still getting these issues - https://gist.github.com/
 iamutkarshtiwari/84742d622a1d221bd1c814ce98baa32e

 Regards,
 Utkarsh Tiwari

 On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 at 20:50 Glide  wrote:

> Hello there,
>
> From what i've seen in the logs and to the best of my knowledge, it
> seems you need to run as root, to gain root access, run su in your 
> terminal.
>
> I hope this works for you.
>
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari <
> iamutkarshtiw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am trying to setup sugar-build on my fresh Ubuntu 16.04
>> installation. I tried instructions mentioned in -
>> https://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html#
>> native%20sugar but I seem to facing issues while trying to run -
>> https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/
>> 107558814db2c9ed57f081b9f353536b
>>
>> Here is the log - https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/
>> 347a3f13dcfd1eeb0788dda38d95b0e4
>>
>> It would be helpful if someone could guide me if I am missing out
>> something.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Utkarsh Tiwari
>>
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with setting up sugar-build on Ubuntu 16.04

[Glide]

Hi,

Okay let us know if it works on ubuntu 17.10.

Thanks

On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The instructions you just mentioned -
>
> for module in sugar{-datastore,-artwork,-toolkit,-toolkit-gtk3,}; do
> dnf builddep $module
> done
>
> works for Fedora whereas I am on Ubuntu 16.04 so I followed the
> instructions for Ubuntu/Debian -
>
> for module in sugar{-datastore,-artwork,-toolkit,-toolkit-gtk3,}; do
> apt build-dep $module
> done
>
> I think I should give it a try on Ubuntu 17.10. Will let you know if I
> come across a solution.
>
> Regards,
> Utkarsh Tiwari
>
> On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 at 21:48 Glide  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I just checked in the guides, you should be doing this when you want to
>> build, your logs show that you aren't:
>>
>> for module in sugar{-datastore,-artwork,-toolkit,-toolkit-gtk3,}; do
>> dnf builddep $module
>> done
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Glide 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> Are you sure you ran the git clone request properly?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari <
>>> iamutkarshtiw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 Thank you Glide for your suggestion. I tried running the instructions
 in su mode but still getting these issues - https://gist.github.com/
 iamutkarshtiwari/84742d622a1d221bd1c814ce98baa32e

 Regards,
 Utkarsh Tiwari

 On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 at 20:50 Glide  wrote:

> Hello there,
>
> From what i've seen in the logs and to the best of my knowledge, it
> seems you need to run as root, to gain root access, run su in your 
> terminal.
>
> I hope this works for you.
>
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari <
> iamutkarshtiw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am trying to setup sugar-build on my fresh Ubuntu 16.04
>> installation. I tried instructions mentioned in -
>> https://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html#
>> native%20sugar but I seem to facing issues while trying to run -
>> https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/
>> 107558814db2c9ed57f081b9f353536b
>>
>> Here is the log - https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/
>> 347a3f13dcfd1eeb0788dda38d95b0e4
>>
>> It would be helpful if someone could guide me if I am missing out
>> something.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Utkarsh Tiwari
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with setting up sugar-build on Ubuntu 16.04

[Utkarsh Tiwari]

Hi,

The instructions you just mentioned -

for module in sugar{-datastore,-artwork,-toolkit,-toolkit-gtk3,}; do
dnf builddep $module
done

works for Fedora whereas I am on Ubuntu 16.04 so I followed the
instructions for Ubuntu/Debian -

for module in sugar{-datastore,-artwork,-toolkit,-toolkit-gtk3,}; do
apt build-dep $module
done

I think I should give it a try on Ubuntu 17.10. Will let you know if I come
across a solution.

Regards,
Utkarsh Tiwari

On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 at 21:48 Glide  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I just checked in the guides, you should be doing this when you want to
> build, your logs show that you aren't:
>
> for module in sugar{-datastore,-artwork,-toolkit,-toolkit-gtk3,}; do
> dnf builddep $module
> done
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Glide 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> Are you sure you ran the git clone request properly?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari <
>> iamutkarshtiw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thank you Glide for your suggestion. I tried running the instructions in
>>> su mode but still getting these issues -
>>> https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/84742d622a1d221bd1c814ce98baa32e
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Utkarsh Tiwari
>>>
>>> On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 at 20:50 Glide  wrote:
>>>
 Hello there,

 From what i've seen in the logs and to the best of my knowledge, it
 seems you need to run as root, to gain root access, run su in your 
 terminal.

 I hope this works for you.

 On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari <
 iamutkarshtiw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I am trying to setup sugar-build on my fresh Ubuntu 16.04
> installation. I tried instructions mentioned in -
> https://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html#native%20sugar
> but I seem to facing issues while trying to run -
> https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/107558814db2c9ed57f081b9f353536b
>
> Here is the log -
> https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/347a3f13dcfd1eeb0788dda38d95b0e4
>
> It would be helpful if someone could guide me if I am missing out
> something.
>
> Regards,
> Utkarsh Tiwari
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with setting up sugar-build on Ubuntu 16.04

[Glide]

Hello,

I just checked in the guides, you should be doing this when you want to
build, your logs show that you aren't:

for module in sugar{-datastore,-artwork,-toolkit,-toolkit-gtk3,}; do
dnf builddep $module
done



On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Glide  wrote:

> Hey,
>
> Are you sure you ran the git clone request properly?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari <
> iamutkarshtiw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thank you Glide for your suggestion. I tried running the instructions in
>> su mode but still getting these issues - https://gist.github.com/iamu
>> tkarshtiwari/84742d622a1d221bd1c814ce98baa32e
>>
>> Regards,
>> Utkarsh Tiwari
>>
>> On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 at 20:50 Glide  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello there,
>>>
>>> From what i've seen in the logs and to the best of my knowledge, it
>>> seems you need to run as root, to gain root access, run su in your terminal.
>>>
>>> I hope this works for you.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari <
>>> iamutkarshtiw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hello everyone,

 I am trying to setup sugar-build on my fresh Ubuntu 16.04 installation.
 I tried instructions mentioned in - https://developer.sugarlabs.or
 g/dev-environment.md.html#native%20sugar but I seem to facing issues
 while trying to run - https://gist.github.com/iamutk
 arshtiwari/107558814db2c9ed57f081b9f353536b

 Here is the log - https://gist.github.com/iamutk
 arshtiwari/347a3f13dcfd1eeb0788dda38d95b0e4

 It would be helpful if someone could guide me if I am missing out
 something.

 Regards,
 Utkarsh Tiwari


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with setting up sugar-build on Ubuntu 16.04

[Glide]

Hey,

Are you sure you ran the git clone request properly?



On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thank you Glide for your suggestion. I tried running the instructions in
> su mode but still getting these issues - https://gist.github.com/
> iamutkarshtiwari/84742d622a1d221bd1c814ce98baa32e
>
> Regards,
> Utkarsh Tiwari
>
> On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 at 20:50 Glide  wrote:
>
>> Hello there,
>>
>> From what i've seen in the logs and to the best of my knowledge, it seems
>> you need to run as root, to gain root access, run su in your terminal.
>>
>> I hope this works for you.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari <
>> iamutkarshtiw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I am trying to setup sugar-build on my fresh Ubuntu 16.04 installation.
>>> I tried instructions mentioned in - https://developer.sugarlabs.
>>> org/dev-environment.md.html#native%20sugar but I seem to facing issues
>>> while trying to run - https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/
>>> 107558814db2c9ed57f081b9f353536b
>>>
>>> Here is the log - https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/
>>> 347a3f13dcfd1eeb0788dda38d95b0e4
>>>
>>> It would be helpful if someone could guide me if I am missing out
>>> something.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Utkarsh Tiwari
>>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with setting up sugar-build on Ubuntu 16.04

[Utkarsh Tiwari]

Hi,

Thank you Glide for your suggestion. I tried running the instructions in su
mode but still getting these issues -
https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/84742d622a1d221bd1c814ce98baa32e

Regards,
Utkarsh Tiwari

On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 at 20:50 Glide  wrote:

> Hello there,
>
> From what i've seen in the logs and to the best of my knowledge, it seems
> you need to run as root, to gain root access, run su in your terminal.
>
> I hope this works for you.
>
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari <
> iamutkarshtiw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am trying to setup sugar-build on my fresh Ubuntu 16.04 installation. I
>> tried instructions mentioned in -
>> https://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html#native%20sugar
>> but I seem to facing issues while trying to run -
>> https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/107558814db2c9ed57f081b9f353536b
>>
>> Here is the log -
>> https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/347a3f13dcfd1eeb0788dda38d95b0e4
>>
>> It would be helpful if someone could guide me if I am missing out
>> something.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Utkarsh Tiwari
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with setting up sugar-build on Ubuntu 16.04

[Glide]

Hello there,

>From what i've seen in the logs and to the best of my knowledge, it seems
you need to run as root, to gain root access, run su in your terminal.

I hope this works for you.

On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari 
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I am trying to setup sugar-build on my fresh Ubuntu 16.04 installation. I
> tried instructions mentioned in - https://developer.sugarlabs.
> org/dev-environment.md.html#native%20sugar but I seem to facing issues
> while trying to run - https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/
> 107558814db2c9ed57f081b9f353536b
>
> Here is the log - https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/
> 347a3f13dcfd1eeb0788dda38d95b0e4
>
> It would be helpful if someone could guide me if I am missing out
> something.
>
> Regards,
> Utkarsh Tiwari
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help regarding contributing to sugarlabs

[Samson Goddy]

Thanks for reaching out.. here is how you can contribute
https://developer.sugarlabs.org

Samson Goddy

On 22 Jan 2017 10:11 a.m., "vathsa sri"  wrote:

> Hello !!
>
> My name is Sri Vathsa. I am sophomore at IIT Roorkee, India, pursuing my
> B.Tech in Electronics and Communication. I am new to open source and would
> like to contribute to sugar labs . I have been using python for the last
> couple of years. Can anyone help me out with where I can start for
> contributing and any other prerequisites you think are necessary ?
>
> Thanks !
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help Needed adding a module to my Activity

[Tony Anderson]

Hi, Sebastian

Sugar activities are written in Python. Python modules are installed by 
setup.py.  The cases you are describing are special exceptions where an

activity includes a binary module (e.g. box2d or java runtime).

ASLO could provide alternate bundles for XO-1 and XO-1.5 and for XO-1.75 
and XO-4. This requires someone to update the interface to provide this 
information. It would also be nice if the ASLO interface showed the 
supported versions of Sugar (something which is now impossible).


ASLO has been serving Sugar users well for nearly a decade.

Tony


On 08/08/2016 03:42 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote:


El 08/08/16 a las 01:30, Sam Parkinson escribió:

Side note:  It would be so much better if Sugar activities could just
declare dependencies.  Just say something like "bindeps=fontmake".  If
we just made them all into RPMs/DEBs and had a AppStream based store
interface ... that would be nice.  ASLOv2v2 is just something
automatically building rpms and debs?



The practice of embedding dependencies within bundles is really bad, it
implies duplication where two activities share a dependency, or, in the
case of multiple architectures, bloat. Finally it makes it nearly
imposisble to account for bugs and vulnerabilities.

Once upon a time Aleksey Lim proposed the "recipe" specification to
overcome activity.info deficiencies. I wonder if it would be possible to
reuse some of his work:

https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Network/Recipe_Specification

I saw it working in alpha verision. Currently Hexoquinasa OS image
package list is built in part from dependencies declared in recipe files.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help Needed adding a module to my Activity

[Sebastian Silva]

El 08/08/16 a las 09:01, Dave Crossland escribió:
> Should prepare versions of the activity for XO-1 XO1.5 XO-1.75 XO-4
> and i386? 
Until there is a way to declare and install dependencies, you have options:

1.- One XO for each of OS Version, architecture (not computer model).
That means generally one for XO[1,1.5] and one for XO[1.75,4]. Nobody
does this that I know of.
2.- Embed dependencies under /activity_dir/lib/arch/ path. Problems as
described.
3.- Try to stay pure-python.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help Needed adding a module to my Activity

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On 8 August 2016 at 09:42, Sebastian Silva 
wrote:

> The practice of embedding dependencies within bundles is really bad, it
> implies duplication where two activities share a dependency, or, in the
> case of multiple architectures, bloat.
>

Should prepare versions of the activity for XO-1 XO1.5 XO-1.75 XO-4 and
i386?
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help Needed adding a module to my Activity

[Sebastian Silva]

El 08/08/16 a las 01:30, Sam Parkinson escribió:
>
> Side note:  It would be so much better if Sugar activities could just
> declare dependencies.  Just say something like "bindeps=fontmake".  If
> we just made them all into RPMs/DEBs and had a AppStream based store
> interface ... that would be nice.  ASLOv2v2 is just something
> automatically building rpms and debs?
>
>
The practice of embedding dependencies within bundles is really bad, it
implies duplication where two activities share a dependency, or, in the
case of multiple architectures, bloat. Finally it makes it nearly
imposisble to account for bugs and vulnerabilities.

Once upon a time Aleksey Lim proposed the "recipe" specification to
overcome activity.info deficiencies. I wonder if it would be possible to
reuse some of his work:

https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Network/Recipe_Specification

I saw it working in alpha verision. Currently Hexoquinasa OS image
package list is built in part from dependencies declared in recipe files.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help Needed adding a module to my Activity

[Tony Anderson]

Hi, Sam

My understanding is that activities need to satisfy their own 
dependencies. This helps minimize the space taken by Sugar providing 
software for activities
not installed. Currently, it is difficult to install Sugar on an XO-1 
with 1GB storage and not possible for an XO-1.5 with 2GB storage.


ASLO needs to be supported. We certainly do not need to make activity 
bundles dependent on a distribution - setup.py is fine.


Tony

On 08/08/2016 08:30 AM, Sam Parkinson wrote:
Statically including libraries in the XO files is yuck, but I don't 
think we have another way to do it.  I believe that Physics activity 
also statically includes libraries - maybe see how it works there?


Side note:  It would be so much better if Sugar activities could just 
declare dependencies.  Just say something like "bindeps=fontmake".  If 
we just made them all into RPMs/DEBs and had a AppStream based store 
interface ... that would be nice.  ASLOv2v2 is just something 
automatically building rpms and debs?


Thanks,
Sam

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Yash Agarwal  
wrote:

Hello,
The Issue is Documented here 


but I'll paste the relevant part here
I'm trying to use fontmake 
 in my sugar activity, It 
works fine on my system but in sugar it requires a dependency which I 
don't know how to add

this is the error I'm getting
```
bash-4.2$ python -m fontmake -u ../test_fonts/sample.ufo
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/runpy.py", line 162, in _run_module_as_main
"__main__", fname, loader, pkg_name)
  File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/runpy.py", line 72, in _run_code
exec code in run_globals
  File 
"/home/broot/sugar-build/activities/edit-fonts-activity/third_party/fontmake/__main__.py", 
line 17, in 

from fontmake.font_project import FontProject
  File "fontmake/font_project.py", line 25, in 
from booleanOperations import BooleanOperationManager
  File "booleanOperations/__init__.py", line 2, in 
from .booleanOperationManager import BooleanOperationManager
  File "booleanOperations/booleanOperationManager.py", line 3, in 


from . import pyClipper
ImportError: /lib64/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.21' not 
found (required by booleanOperations/pyClipper.so)

```




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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help Needed adding a module to my Activity

[Sam Parkinson]

Statically including libraries in the XO files is yuck, but I don't 
think we have another way to do it.  I believe that Physics activity 
also statically includes libraries - maybe see how it works there?


Side note:  It would be so much better if Sugar activities could just 
declare dependencies.  Just say something like "bindeps=fontmake".  If 
we just made them all into RPMs/DEBs and had a AppStream based store 
interface ... that would be nice.  ASLOv2v2 is just something 
automatically building rpms and debs?


Thanks,
Sam

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Yash Agarwal  
wrote:

Hello,
The Issue is Documented here
but I'll paste the relevant part here
I'm trying to use fontmake in my sugar activity, It works fine on my 
system but in sugar it requires a dependency which I don't know how 
to add

this is the error I'm getting
```
bash-4.2$ python -m fontmake -u ../test_fonts/sample.ufo
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/runpy.py", line 162, in 
_run_module_as_main

"__main__", fname, loader, pkg_name)
  File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/runpy.py", line 72, in _run_code
exec code in run_globals
  File 
"/home/broot/sugar-build/activities/edit-fonts-activity/third_party/fontmake/__main__.py", 
line 17, in 

from fontmake.font_project import FontProject
  File "fontmake/font_project.py", line 25, in 
from booleanOperations import BooleanOperationManager
  File "booleanOperations/__init__.py", line 2, in 
from .booleanOperationManager import BooleanOperationManager
  File "booleanOperations/booleanOperationManager.py", line 3, in 


from . import pyClipper
ImportError: /lib64/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.21' not 
found (required by booleanOperations/pyClipper.so)

```

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help Needed: Observer design Pattern

[Sam Parkinson]

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 5:18 AM, Yash Agarwal  
wrote:

Hi,
I'm having trouble implementing  an observer pattern based Gtk layout.


You can use GObject Signals:  `pydoc gi.repository.GObject.Signal`



This is my current method to dynamically change the layout:
for implementing this, a grid with pagination, I'm destroying all the 
elements of the grid when either of the buttons is pressed and then 
add the new elements to the grid based on a counter.


Do you have the memory to create all the objects, even the invisible 
ones?


Alternatively, I'm not sure why you need the observer pattern.  Can you 
just go:


   for object in grid:
   object.change_to_new_thing(new_data[i])



I don't think this is the most efficient method to do this, hence I 
need help in implementing observer pattern in this.


with Regards,
Yash Agarwal

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help Utkarsh test a Browse activity patch

[Tony Anderson]

Hi, Dave

I'll be happy to test it. Where is the xo bundle?

Tony

On 05/18/2016 03:37 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:


Hi

I wonder if any Sugar developers could spare an hour today to help 
Utkarsh test a Browse activity patch? :)


https://github.com/sugarlabs/browse-activity/pull/24#issuecomment-220027208

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help Utkarsh test a Browse activity patch

[Ütkarsh Tiwari]

Thank you Dave :)

Regards,
Utkarsh
On May 18, 2016 7:08 PM, "Dave Crossland"  wrote:

>
> Hi
>
> I wonder if any Sugar developers could spare an hour today to help Utkarsh
> test a Browse activity patch? :)
>
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/browse-activity/pull/24#issuecomment-220027208
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help us translating sugar

[Martin Abente]

Hello!

This is a reminder that we still have time to complete translations
until February
9th!

I take this opportunity to thank *Tymon Radzil*, *Edgar Quispe Chambi*
and *Robert
Antoni Buj Gelonch*, for completing the Polish, Aymara and Catalan
translations (respectively).

Regards,
Martin.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Tymon Radzik  wrote:

> Hello Martin,
> I have translated entire sugar package to Polish language, so it is ready
> to be attached into release :)
> I'm gonna spread a word about this action to my friends, who also know
> other languages.
> Best regards,
> Tymon
>
> pon., 1.02.2016 o 03:10 użytkownik Martin Abente <
> martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com> napisał:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I spent this weekend making sure that our translation platform [1] was
>> running fine and I updated the templates for sugar and sugar-toolkit-gtk3
>> projects. Compared to the last release, there are *only 97 new words *to
>> be translated in sugar [2].
>>
>> I also completed the Spanish translations [3], but the more we complete
>> the better, so *we need your help*! We have time until February 9th, so
>> I can merge the changes and do basic QA at least before the 0.108 release.
>>
>> *Spread the word!*
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Martin.
>>
>> Refs:
>> [1] http://translate.sugarlabs.org/
>> [2] http://translate.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar/
>> [3]
>> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/commit/8a08aa604df7434e9581bfaf021fa4305093cf9d
>>
> --
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>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help us translating sugar

[Martin Abente]

Many thanks to those who contacted me offering for help, just a couple
recommendations:

1. Create your account in our platform [1].
2. Contact me to provide the name of your user and the languages are you
willing to translate.
3. Please use our platform to do the actual translation. The .po files in
the code are not up to date, only those in our platform.

Refs:
[1] http://translate.sugarlabs.org/


On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 4:07 AM, James Cameron  wrote:

> Create an account on http://translate.sugarlabs.org/ and let it guide
> you through work that is waiting.
>
> To assist with core Sugar translation, focus on
> http://translate.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar/
>
> On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 12:20:52PM +0530, Utkarsh Tiwari wrote:
> > Hi,
> >  I would like to come forward. Could you please guide me how to
> proceed ?
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help us translating sugar

[Tymon Radzik]

Hello Martin,
I have translated entire sugar package to Polish language, so it is ready
to be attached into release :)
I'm gonna spread a word about this action to my friends, who also know
other languages.
Best regards,
Tymon

pon., 1.02.2016 o 03:10 użytkownik Martin Abente <
martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com> napisał:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I spent this weekend making sure that our translation platform [1] was
> running fine and I updated the templates for sugar and sugar-toolkit-gtk3
> projects. Compared to the last release, there are *only 97 new words *to
> be translated in sugar [2].
>
> I also completed the Spanish translations [3], but the more we complete
> the better, so *we need your help*! We have time until February 9th, so I
> can merge the changes and do basic QA at least before the 0.108 release.
>
> *Spread the word!*
>
> Thanks,
> Martin.
>
> Refs:
> [1] http://translate.sugarlabs.org/
> [2] http://translate.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar/
> [3]
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/commit/8a08aa604df7434e9581bfaf021fa4305093cf9d
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help us translating sugar

[Utkarsh Tiwari]

Hi, 
 I would like to come forward. Could you please guide me how to proceed ? 

regards,
Utkarsh Tiwari

-Original Message-
From: "Martin Abente" 
Sent: ‎01-‎02-‎2016 07:40 AM
To: "Sugar-dev Devel" 
Subject: [Sugar-devel] Help us translating sugar

Hello everyone,


I spent this weekend making sure that our translation platform [1] was running 
fine and I updated the templates for sugar and sugar-toolkit-gtk3 projects. 
Compared to the last release, there are only 97 new words to be translated in 
sugar [2].


I also completed the Spanish translations [3], but the more we complete the 
better, so we need your help! We have time until February 9th, so I can merge 
the changes and do basic QA at least before the 0.108 release.


Spread the word!


Thanks,
Martin.


Refs:
[1] http://translate.sugarlabs.org/
[2] http://translate.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar/
[3] 
https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/commit/8a08aa604df7434e9581bfaf021fa4305093cf9d___
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help us translating sugar

[James Cameron]

Create an account on http://translate.sugarlabs.org/ and let it guide
you through work that is waiting.

To assist with core Sugar translation, focus on
http://translate.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar/

On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 12:20:52PM +0530, Utkarsh Tiwari wrote:
> Hi,
>  I would like to come forward. Could you please guide me how to proceed ?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help - XO wallpaper

[James Cameron]

G'day Jennifer,

Yes, both can be set, but you need to be on a recent version of
Sugar.  I recommend 13.2.5 for XO laptops, as it has 0.106 of Sugar.

The background is set either in the control panel, or using a
configuration setting when making the image.

The startup image can be set when making the image, details are in the
OSBuilder page on the OLPC Wiki.

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 12:21:34PM -0400, Jennifer Martino wrote:
> Hello long lost friends. Hope you are well.
> 
> Just a small perhaps silly question from OLPC Canada - is there any way to set
> a wallpaper image for the XO on the sugar side? I might be dreaming here but 
> if
> anyone knows I'm guessing it's someone on this list. 
> 
> If it's possible to set an image in the xo startup script so that it pops up
> before sugar opens, perhaps instead of the loading frame, that would be really
> cool too... just some food for thought
> 
> Thanks everyone
> 
> Jennifer Martino
> 
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help required with webservices

[Prasoon Shukla]

ᐧ


On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 2:56 AM, Sam Parkinson sam.parkins...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi

 On Jun 9, 2014 5:49 AM, Prasoon Shukla prasoon92.i...@gmail.com wrote:
  Now, the question. I've been told a few times to use the existing
 webservices mechanism to store a user's session so that the user won't need
 to login every time he opens the activity. However, there is no need for
 it, IMO. The activity, as I've mentioned already, is a web browser, of all
 things, and can happily store cookies so that users will be logged in every
 time they open the activity.

 I think people wanted a way to sign in automatically with out
 registering.

I asked Paul something along these lines. Here's his reply (and I concur):

When you're dealing with schools and classroom environments you're probably
going to some measure of laptops getting swapped around. For instance, at
the end of the year will each child take their XO into their next classroom
- or will the XO stay at the classroom and the kids use different XOs each
year? It's up to the school to decide how they handle it, and they might do
it differently. Alternatively, there might be a school with 250 students
and 50 XOs (two classrooms) - and classrooms share the XOs, class A gets
them for a month, and then class B gets them next month.


So, how do we distinguish two different people using the same XO? A user, I
suspect, will want to track his account personally. Also, the user history
serves a role in establishing the user's credibility in the community. So,
we can't tie up the identity of a user to a XO. And therefore, I don't
think that think approach will work, IMHO.

 So browse activity (or social help activity) can generate a:
 * unique user id
 * avatar from the users XO colors
 * name (from sugar username)
 * and maybe fake email to collect all the users notification and display
 them in sugar
 And tell this to the form software so it can automatically give them an
 account and sign them in.

Again, the problem with the identity persists.

 I also want to try and do something like this for the ASLO, so maybe we
 can work together?

Well, I don't really know much about the ASLO, except that it's the
sugarlabs server. Nevertheless, I don't see a problem with integrating this
- discourse (with some dependencies) needs to be installed on the server
side and that's pretty much it :)

  So, what's the use of using the webservice mechanism in such a case?

 If you want have a service in the journal to put files in the cloud.  Or
 of you want to view files in the cloud :)

 Sam

Anyway, I'll put this on hold for the time and continue with the UI. If we
need to couple the Discourse forum with some other activity, it would then
be nice to build a webservice.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help required with webservices

[Sam Parkinson]

Hi

On Jun 9, 2014 5:49 AM, Prasoon Shukla prasoon92.i...@gmail.com wrote:
 Now, the question. I've been told a few times to use the existing
webservices mechanism to store a user's session so that the user won't need
to login every time he opens the activity. However, there is no need for
it, IMO. The activity, as I've mentioned already, is a web browser, of all
things, and can happily store cookies so that users will be logged in every
time they open the activity.

I think people wanted a way to sign in automatically with out
registering.

So browse activity (or social help activity) can generate a:
* unique user id
* avatar from the users XO colors
* name (from sugar username)
* and maybe fake email to collect all the users notification and display
them in sugar
And tell this to the form software so it can automatically give them an
account and sign them in.

I also want to try and do something like this for the ASLO, so maybe we can
work together?

 So, what's the use of using the webservice mechanism in such a case?

If you want have a service in the journal to put files in the cloud.  Or of
you want to view files in the cloud :)

Sam
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help needed to modify chat activity

[Walter Bender]

Perhaps you can request a seed from the sharer?
(https://docs.python.org/2/library/random.html#random.seed)
I'm guessing that Maze does something similar to ensure both players
are using the same seed to generate the maze.

-walter

On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:57 AM, Rafikh rafikh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,

 We are modifying existing chat activity so that it can be used for
 teaching-learning arithmetic. We are facing some problems, we want to know
 following:

 If X and Y are two users,when an activity is shared from X and if Y joins
 it, does it mean a new instance of same activity is created on Y?
 Because we are generating and displaying some random value in activity
 class. Post sharing, the values differ on X and Y.
 How can we make the same random value share on Y? Is it possible?

 Please help us.

 Thank you,


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help 17 and Help Doers Kit

[Walter Bender]

On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:06 AM, Iain Brown Douglas
i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote:
 Help 17 is at a point close to release, but in some essential ways, is, as
 yet, unfinished.

 It is largely updated in content, but there is still some very important
 changes that have not been crossed off the list on this
 page:http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Help_Activity_refresh/0.98

 Help 17 is already a nearly complete set of Sugar 1.00 documentation.

 I came to the project very recently, Gonzalo Odiard has spent more time
 supporting me to learn the process, than I have so far contributed.

 This will be an inadequate description, which is why I write. Gonzalo
 has modified the source of Activity Help, so that the version of Help in
 the link below includes a self-installing, fully user editable form of
 Help. Please test if you can. I tested it in sugar-build and SoaS. It works 
 nicely.

 *To Get this Activity*
 --

 Right now if you do:

 git clone gitori...@git.sugarlabs.org:help/mainline.git

 you will get the help activity _with_ the sources included.

 You can install it in your development environment doing:

 cd mainline

 ./setup.py dev

 If you have the Activity Help already installed, uninstall it first.

 Now you can modify any .rst file in /mainline/source directory or the
 images in the /mainline/images directory,

 and to create the html files, you only need do:


 make html

 * In Sugar
 You don’t need to restart the activity to see the changes, can do click
 with the secondary button, and select reload.


 * In any other Linux environment
 The output of make html is in /mainline/html, and is opened by opening
 index.html in a browser, it is easy to see the changes as you work.


 * Features
 Help already allows internationalisation of the content.

 *Next steps*
 

 I think this is a really good way of producing documentation in the field.

 But it has taken me three weeks to get to the point where I can contribute!
 On my hard drive, I have a variant of the above, that I would like to
 sell to you as Help Doers Kit.

 *Help Doers Kit*
 

 I replaced the regular index, with one containing Help Doers Kit,
 which is about 4 pages I have written, containing:

 all I know about How To write and contribute to Activity Help
 an improving version of the content of this e-mail
 a sandbox.
 I have already used it to start to create some New-to-Sugar, pages which
 I hope to submit in due course.

 The Help Doers Kit allows someone with no coding experience,
 * to practice on the software,
 * to start to write documentation from scratch,
 * to write self-help pages, which remain in the users copy of Help,
 * to edit existing Help pages, and have them patched into the next 
 Help Activity,
 * to develop the Help Doers Kit itself,
 * to have a common low-tech platform for collaboration,
 * to develop the Help Activity's look, feel, and features,
 * to, potentially, write attractive documentation available to
 distribute as .html web pages, or How_to_change_the_world.xo


 Would there be any market for Help Doers Kit, and what should I do next?

How about advertising with a link from the Sugar Labs wiki home page?

-walter

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help 17 and Help Doers Kit

[Chris Leonard]

We still need a lot of L10n activity to get it fully ready for wide
use in Sugar Deployments in non-English countries.

http://translate.sugarlabs.org/projects/help_content/

On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:06 AM, Iain Brown Douglas
i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote:
 Help 17 is at a point close to release, but in some essential ways, is, as
 yet, unfinished.

 It is largely updated in content, but there is still some very important
 changes that have not been crossed off the list on this
 page:http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Help_Activity_refresh/0.98

 Help 17 is already a nearly complete set of Sugar 1.00 documentation.

 I came to the project very recently, Gonzalo Odiard has spent more time
 supporting me to learn the process, than I have so far contributed.

 This will be an inadequate description, which is why I write. Gonzalo
 has modified the source of Activity Help, so that the version of Help in
 the link below includes a self-installing, fully user editable form of
 Help. Please test if you can. I tested it in sugar-build and SoaS. It works 
 nicely.

 *To Get this Activity*
 --

 Right now if you do:

 git clone gitori...@git.sugarlabs.org:help/mainline.git

 you will get the help activity _with_ the sources included.

 You can install it in your development environment doing:

 cd mainline

 ./setup.py dev

 If you have the Activity Help already installed, uninstall it first.

 Now you can modify any .rst file in /mainline/source directory or the
 images in the /mainline/images directory,

 and to create the html files, you only need do:


 make html

 * In Sugar
 You don’t need to restart the activity to see the changes, can do click
 with the secondary button, and select reload.


 * In any other Linux environment
 The output of make html is in /mainline/html, and is opened by opening
 index.html in a browser, it is easy to see the changes as you work.


 * Features
 Help already allows internationalisation of the content.

 *Next steps*
 

 I think this is a really good way of producing documentation in the field.

 But it has taken me three weeks to get to the point where I can contribute!
 On my hard drive, I have a variant of the above, that I would like to
 sell to you as Help Doers Kit.

 *Help Doers Kit*
 

 I replaced the regular index, with one containing Help Doers Kit,
 which is about 4 pages I have written, containing:

 all I know about How To write and contribute to Activity Help
 an improving version of the content of this e-mail
 a sandbox.
 I have already used it to start to create some New-to-Sugar, pages which
 I hope to submit in due course.

 The Help Doers Kit allows someone with no coding experience,
 * to practice on the software,
 * to start to write documentation from scratch,
 * to write self-help pages, which remain in the users copy of Help,
 * to edit existing Help pages, and have them patched into the next 
 Help Activity,
 * to develop the Help Doers Kit itself,
 * to have a common low-tech platform for collaboration,
 * to develop the Help Activity's look, feel, and features,
 * to, potentially, write attractive documentation available to
 distribute as .html web pages, or How_to_change_the_world.xo


 Would there be any market for Help Doers Kit, and what should I do next?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help 17 and Help Doers Kit

[Gonzalo Odiard]

+1

We need improve the final pieces to get the localization done.

Kalpa and I did part of the work in the activity itself,
the missing part is the pootle stuff.

Gonzalo

On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote:
 We still need a lot of L10n activity to get it fully ready for wide
 use in Sugar Deployments in non-English countries.

 http://translate.sugarlabs.org/projects/help_content/

 On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:06 AM, Iain Brown Douglas
 i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote:
 Help 17 is at a point close to release, but in some essential ways, is, as
 yet, unfinished.

 It is largely updated in content, but there is still some very important
 changes that have not been crossed off the list on this
 page:http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Help_Activity_refresh/0.98

 Help 17 is already a nearly complete set of Sugar 1.00 documentation.

 I came to the project very recently, Gonzalo Odiard has spent more time
 supporting me to learn the process, than I have so far contributed.

 This will be an inadequate description, which is why I write. Gonzalo
 has modified the source of Activity Help, so that the version of Help in
 the link below includes a self-installing, fully user editable form of
 Help. Please test if you can. I tested it in sugar-build and SoaS. It works 
 nicely.

 *To Get this Activity*
 --

 Right now if you do:

 git clone gitori...@git.sugarlabs.org:help/mainline.git

 you will get the help activity _with_ the sources included.

 You can install it in your development environment doing:

 cd mainline

 ./setup.py dev

 If you have the Activity Help already installed, uninstall it first.

 Now you can modify any .rst file in /mainline/source directory or the
 images in the /mainline/images directory,

 and to create the html files, you only need do:


 make html

 * In Sugar
 You don’t need to restart the activity to see the changes, can do click
 with the secondary button, and select reload.


 * In any other Linux environment
 The output of make html is in /mainline/html, and is opened by opening
 index.html in a browser, it is easy to see the changes as you work.


 * Features
 Help already allows internationalisation of the content.

 *Next steps*
 

 I think this is a really good way of producing documentation in the field.

 But it has taken me three weeks to get to the point where I can contribute!
 On my hard drive, I have a variant of the above, that I would like to
 sell to you as Help Doers Kit.

 *Help Doers Kit*
 

 I replaced the regular index, with one containing Help Doers Kit,
 which is about 4 pages I have written, containing:

 all I know about How To write and contribute to Activity Help
 an improving version of the content of this e-mail
 a sandbox.
 I have already used it to start to create some New-to-Sugar, pages which
 I hope to submit in due course.

 The Help Doers Kit allows someone with no coding experience,
 * to practice on the software,
 * to start to write documentation from scratch,
 * to write self-help pages, which remain in the users copy of Help,
 * to edit existing Help pages, and have them patched into the next 
 Help Activity,
 * to develop the Help Doers Kit itself,
 * to have a common low-tech platform for collaboration,
 * to develop the Help Activity's look, feel, and features,
 * to, potentially, write attractive documentation available to
 distribute as .html web pages, or How_to_change_the_world.xo


 Would there be any market for Help Doers Kit, and what should I do next?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help! - Sugar build error

[Daniel Narvaez]

Which distribution? Did ./osbuild pull work?

On Thursday, 17 October 2013, Cristhofer Travieso wrote:

 $./osbuild build

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help the sugarlabs wiki is being spammed with new user creation.

[Frederick Grose]

On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Thomas Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com
 wrote:

 Fred:

 Yesterday bernie opened up the new user creation filter.

 The wiki is being badly spammed .

 Can you turn it off?

 Help

 Tom Gilliard
 satellit


I'm traveling and can't seem to login.

Bernie or someone else will have to intervene.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help the sugarlabs wiki is being spammed with new user creation.

[Sebastian Silva]

Hi,
As was done for Local Labs wikis, suggested by Kristian Paul from 
Colombia, I've added ReCaptcha filter

for new user creation to the Wiki.
Hopefully this will help with the spam problem.
Thanks!

El 26/04/13 03:57, Thomas Gilliard escribió:

Fred:

Yesterday bernie opened up the new user creation filter.

The wiki is being badly spammed .

Can you turn it off?

Help

Tom Gilliard
satellit
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [HELP] Shell port to GTK3+: Removing hardcoded styles-- facing issue

[Manuel Quiñones]

Hi Kartik,

2012/8/10 Kartik Kumar kartik.p...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 I am trying to close open items listed over here:
 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/GTK3/Shell

Great.

 -To Remove hardcoding styles from files like aboutcomputer/view.py by
 referring to http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/GTK3/Theme.  I have
 created sugar-theme.css within aboutcomputer directory which is referring
 to CSS present at sugar-artwork/gtk3/theme/gtk.css

Just add styles in the sugar-artwork component,
sugar-artwork/gtk3/theme/gtk-widgets.css.em .

That is a template file that produces two css when you make install
the component.

If you want to add style to a particular widget (ie control panel) use
the gtype name.  In controlpanel/gui.py you will see:  __gtype_name__
= 'SugarControlPanel'

Then you can add rules to it.

 Then I made changes to aboutcomputer/view.py to load the CSS: (changes are
 highlighted in bold):

 from gettext import gettext as _

 #import GTK

 from sugar.graphics import style

 from jarabe import config
 from jarabe.controlpanel.sectionview import SectionView

 from gi.repository import GTK


 USE_LOCAL_CSS = True

 class AboutComputer(SectionView):
 def __init__(self, model, alerts=None):
 SectionView.__init__(self)

 self._model = model

 self.set_border_width(style.DEFAULT_SPACING * 2)
 self.set_spacing(style.DEFAULT_SPACING)

 self._group = GTK.SizeGroup(GTK.SIZE_GROUP_HORIZONTAL)

 scrollwindow = GTK.ScrolledWindow()
 scrollwindow.set_policy(GTK.POLICY_NEVER, GTK.POLICY_AUTOMATIC)
 self.pack_start(scrollwindow, expand=True)
 scrollwindow.show()

 self._vbox = GTK.VBox()
 scrollwindow.add_with_viewport(self._vbox)
 self._vbox.show()

 self._setup_identity()

 self._setup_software()
 self._setup_copyright()

 if USE_LOCAL_CSS:
 css_provider = GTK.CssProvider()
 css_provcss_provider.load_from_path('sugar-theme.css')
 context = GTK.StyleContext()
 context.add_provider_for_screen(screen, css_provider,
 GTK.STYLE_PROVIDER_PRIORITY_USER)

 Now when I view click on My Computer under My Settings, I can see error
 in shell.log.
 The error is like :

 File
 /home/kartik/Sugar_Build_Repo/sugar-build/install/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/controlpanel/gui.py,
 line 223, in show_section_view
 globals(), locals(), ['view'])
   File
 /home/kartik/Sugar_Build_Repo/sugar-build/install/share/sugar/extensions/cpsection/aboutcomputer/view.py,
 line 28, in module
 from gi.repository import GTK
   File
 /home/kartik/Sugar_Build_Repo/sugar-build/install/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gi/__init__.py,
 line 23, in module
 from ._gi import _API, Repository
 ImportError: could not import gobject (error was: ImportError('When using
 gi.repository you must not import static modules like gobject. Please
 change all occurrences of import gobject to from gi.repository import
 GObject.',))

 I even tried to change the statement within
 /sugar-build/install/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gi/__init__.py
 from : import gi._gobject
 to this : from gi.repository import GObject

 But of no use. It is giving the same error.
 I am using Sugar 0.96

 Can anyone please provide pointers? Any help will be greatly appreciated :)


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Re: [Sugar-devel] [HELP] Shell port to GTK3+: Removing hardcoded styles-- facing issue

[Sascha Silbe]

Kartik Kumar kartik.p...@gmail.com writes:

 Then I made changes to aboutcomputer/view.py to load the CSS: (changes are
 highlighted in bold):

Diffs are usually easier to read, especially in MUAs that don't render
font attributes for HTML mails. If you want all of the previous code to
be included in the diff, you can just give a sufficiently larger number
to the -U option of git diff. I'll include an example below.


 from sugar.graphics import style

The sugar Python package is provided by the pyGTK + GTK2 based sugar-toolkit
package. If you want to use gobject introspection + GTK3, you need to
use the sugar3 Python package which is provided by the
sugar-toolkit-gtk3 package.


 if USE_LOCAL_CSS:
 css_provider = GTK.CssProvider()
 css_provcss_provider.load_from_path('sugar-theme.css')
 context = GTK.StyleContext()
 context.add_provider_for_screen(screen, css_provider,
 GTK.STYLE_PROVIDER_PRIORITY_USER)*

Where does screen get defined? Do we need to load the theme from inside
each widget or can we do it once for an entire process?


sascha.silbe@twin:~/sugar-jhbuild/source/sugar$ git diff -U13
diff --git i/extensions/cpsection/aboutcomputer/view.py 
w/extensions/cpsection/aboutcomputer/view.py
index 6b16005..b011b37 100644
--- i/extensions/cpsection/aboutcomputer/view.py
+++ w/extensions/cpsection/aboutcomputer/view.py
@@ -8,59 +8,70 @@
 # (at your option) any later version.
 #
 # This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
 # but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
 # MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
 # GNU General Public License for more details.
 #
 # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
 # along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
 # Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin St, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA  02110-1301 USA
 
 from gettext import gettext as _
 
-import gtk
+#import gtk
+from gi.repository import GTK
 
 from sugar.graphics import style
 
 from jarabe import config
 from jarabe.controlpanel.sectionview import SectionView
 
 
+USE_LOCAL_CSS = True
+
+
 class AboutComputer(SectionView):
 def __init__(self, model, alerts=None):
 SectionView.__init__(self)
 
 self._model = model
 
 self.set_border_width(style.DEFAULT_SPACING * 2)
 self.set_spacing(style.DEFAULT_SPACING)
 
 self._group = gtk.SizeGroup(gtk.SIZE_GROUP_HORIZONTAL)
 
 scrollwindow = gtk.ScrolledWindow()
 scrollwindow.set_policy(gtk.POLICY_NEVER, gtk.POLICY_AUTOMATIC)
 self.pack_start(scrollwindow, expand=True)
 scrollwindow.show()
 
 self._vbox = gtk.VBox()
 scrollwindow.add_with_viewport(self._vbox)
 self._vbox.show()
 
 self._setup_identity()
 
 self._setup_software()
 self._setup_copyright()
 
+if USE_LOCAL_CSS:
+css_provider = GTK.CssProvider()
+css_provcss_provider.load_from_path('sugar-theme.css')
+context = GTK.StyleContext()
+context.add_provider_for_screen(screen, css_provider,
+GTK.STYLE_PROVIDER_PRIORITY_USER)
+
 def _setup_identity(self):
 separator_identity = gtk.HSeparator()
 self._vbox.pack_start(separator_identity, expand=False)
 separator_identity.show()
 
 label_identity = gtk.Label(_('Identity'))
 label_identity.set_alignment(0, 0)
 self._vbox.pack_start(label_identity, expand=False)
 label_identity.show()
 vbox_identity = gtk.VBox()
 vbox_identity.set_border_width(style.DEFAULT_SPACING * 2)
 vbox_identity.set_spacing(style.DEFAULT_SPACING)
 

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [HELP] Shell port to GTK3+: Removing hardcoded styles-- facing issue

[James Cameron]

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 02:44:35PM +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote:
 Kartik Kumar kartik.p...@gmail.com writes:
 
  Then I made changes to aboutcomputer/view.py to load the CSS: (changes are
  highlighted in bold):
 
 Diffs are usually easier to read, especially in MUAs that don't render
 font attributes for HTML mails. If you want all of the previous code to
 be included in the diff, you can just give a sufficiently larger number
 to the -U option of git diff. I'll include an example below.

I second that.  I and many others have become very good at reading
diffs, so using this format maximises the review coverage.

Also, my mail client doesn't show bold.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [HELP] Shell port to GTK3+: Removing hardcoded styles-- facing issue

[Gonzalo Odiard]

 sascha.silbe@twin:~/sugar-jhbuild/source/sugar$ git diff -U13
 diff --git i/extensions/cpsection/aboutcomputer/view.py
 w/extensions/cpsection/aboutcomputer/view.py
 index 6b16005..b011b37 100644
 --- i/extensions/cpsection/aboutcomputer/view.py
 +++ w/extensions/cpsection/aboutcomputer/view.py

 -import gtk
 +#import gtk
 +from gi.repository import GTK


Should be:

from gi.repository import Gtk

 from sugar.graphics import style


...

You can't mix sugar and sugar3 packages or


  self._group = gtk.SizeGroup(gtk.SIZE_GROUP_HORIZONTAL)


gtk with Gtk packages

Anyway, look at the reply from Manuel,
the css should be modified in sugar-artwork module.

Gonzalo
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help activity future

[Bastien]

Sascha Silbe si...@activitycentral.com writes:

 Exactly. The best format is of no use when there's no content. Let those
 who are willing to contribute documentation choose the format (as long
 as it's an open format at least, i.e. no .docx or similar). When we
 actually have the documentation, we can discuss how to get it into
 something useful for distribution (including translation) and further
 editing. As long as the input is structured well enough, we can come up
 with some way to convert it.

Yes, the format should not be a problem as long as it is reusable.

IMHO the collaboration framework is a more important problem.

As I suggested back in september, using a git repo with some plain text
content (using markdown, rst, mallard, or... just text) would help.

For the non-git guys around, let's have a maintainer for the Help
content that can convert stuff (even from .docx!) into this raw text
content.

Then think on how to reformat/reuse it later on.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help activity future

[Sascha Silbe]

Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org writes:

 I was looking at Mallard, but I didn't wanted impose over the people
 writing the content, the charge of learning a new markup.

 For us, is difficult found people available to write the content,
 (the last full manual is from Sugar 0.82)
 then, I think we should try to get the help written, and later,
 we can see and translate to other markup if is useful.

Exactly. The best format is of no use when there's no content. Let those
who are willing to contribute documentation choose the format (as long
as it's an open format at least, i.e. no .docx or similar). When we
actually have the documentation, we can discuss how to get it into
something useful for distribution (including translation) and further
editing. As long as the input is structured well enough, we can come up
with some way to convert it.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help activity future

[Simon Schampijer]

On 07/27/2012 02:46 PM, Manuel Kaufmann wrote:

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:

rst is yet another markup here, for a teacher or writer :)
As you can see, the Help is being edited in the wiki now.


Yes, I know. That's why I said: I agree with you. When the wiki will
be finished we (developers) can take that content and convert them to
.rst



Ok, Gonzalo has a point that the first task is getting the context 
together. However if you want to convert that content to a markup later 
it makes sense to use a markup GNOME is using as at least the OLPC does 
ship with GNOME as well and GNOME is the community we interact with 
most. If we use the same tools we are much more likely to get 
contributions from GNOME as well.


Regards,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help activity future

[Chris Leonard]

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote:
 On 07/27/2012 02:46 PM, Manuel Kaufmann wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org
 wrote:

 rst is yet another markup here, for a teacher or writer :)
 As you can see, the Help is being edited in the wiki now.


 Yes, I know. That's why I said: I agree with you. When the wiki will
 be finished we (developers) can take that content and convert them to
 .rst


 Ok, Gonzalo has a point that the first task is getting the context together.
 However if you want to convert that content to a markup later it makes sense
 to use a markup GNOME is using as at least the OLPC does ship with GNOME as
 well and GNOME is the community we interact with most. If we use the same
 tools we are much more likely to get contributions from GNOME as well.

 Regards,
Simon


As part of the question (I hope) is how do help pages get translated,
following the Gnome example of Mallard (and intltool) as a means of
closing the i18n/L10n loop is worth considering carefully.

On the one hand, I am loathe to impose any specific markup on doc
writers, willing to be content if they write any docs at all, on the
other hand (and wearing my L10n hat), I feel compelled to argue on
behalf of working with an eye towards presenting the docs to
localizers in a convenient format (as Mallard does via intltool
processing).

The greatest flaw of the existing Help activity is that it was created
without an eye towards i18n/L10n.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with translations on Clock

[Chris Leonard]

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Manuel Kaufmann humi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello guys,

 I need a bit of help with the translation process. I'm trying to fix
 this bug[1] but I don't know how is the workflow to do this and I
 don't want to make a mistake. I've already commented[2] the ticket
 explaining what is my problem and how I fixed it.

 [1] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2944
 [2] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2944#comment:7


I wonder how much of this may be traced back upstream to the glibc locales
 LC_TIME sections

http://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=tree;f=localedata/locales;h=aa17c365ce474cfb9c7dab92b623bfb5a8786208;hb=refs/heads/release/2.14/master

Locale files  are very complex to decipher in part because the
representations are all in Unicode code numbers (and not always
commented in human readable form) and with some frequency (like in the
many Spanish variants) you need to trace back to another locale file
referenced by  a copy es-ES  transclusion.

Even more complicated is the coding system used to represent things
like day/month/year ordering.

http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Formatting-Calendar-Time.html#Formatting-Calendar-Time

From having followed the glibc locale lists and bugs (formerly
controlled by the infamous Ulrich Drepper) I can tell you that you
should NOT assume that the Gnu upstream is necessarily giving you the
correct information or that someone else would have reported such an
obvious bug earlier and had it fixed (the having it fixed part being
the greatest challenge under the previous control regime).  The good
news is that it has gotten easier to get glibc bugs fixed in recent
months as Ulrich has moved on to other pursuits.

Just a hint on doing a quick assessment of the glibc locale.  Claude
Paroz (of Gnome i18n team) has made a tool for developing locale files
that presents locale information in a more human readable interface,
although for any given locale you need to confirm that the info he
presents is still current in glibc HEAD repo.

http://lh.2xlibre.net/locales/


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Re: [Sugar-devel] help wanted answering a dsobject.set_file_path question

[Gary Martin]

Hi Walter,

On 10 Dec 2011, at 22:03, Walter Bender wrote:

 I've been pulling my hair out over this one all day:

Hmmm, very likely making a dumb suggestion here, but just had a quick look. I 
can't see a closing of the file handle – perhaps the csv module does some 
magic? The examples at http://docs.python.org/library/csv.html don't seem to 
show explicitly closing the file handle (though they are all using a 'with' 
statement which likely tears things down correctly when it exits).

--G

 I create a file and a new datastore object and then use set_file_path
 to associate the file with the object (something I have done
 repeatedly in many activities. But for some reason, the file in the
 dsobject is empty. Any clues as to what I may be doing wrong?
 
 See http://git.sugarlabs.org/measure/mainline/blobs/master/measure.py
 beginning on line 338.
 
 The temporary file is dataful as expected and the other place I copy
 the same data to in the Journal works as expected.
 
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Re: [Sugar-devel] help wanted answering a dsobject.set_file_path question

[Walter Bender]

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi Walter,

 On 10 Dec 2011, at 22:03, Walter Bender wrote:

 I've been pulling my hair out over this one all day:

 Hmmm, very likely making a dumb suggestion here, but just had a quick look. I 
 can't see a closing of the file handle – perhaps the csv module does some 
 magic? The examples at http://docs.python.org/library/csv.html don't seem to 
 show explicitly closing the file handle (though they are all using a 'with' 
 statement which likely tears things down correctly when it exits).

Will report back.

thanks.

-walter

 --G

 I create a file and a new datastore object and then use set_file_path
 to associate the file with the object (something I have done
 repeatedly in many activities. But for some reason, the file in the
 dsobject is empty. Any clues as to what I may be doing wrong?

 See http://git.sugarlabs.org/measure/mainline/blobs/master/measure.py
 beginning on line 338.

 The temporary file is dataful as expected and the other place I copy
 the same data to in the Journal works as expected.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with testing SemanticXO's backend

[Christophe Guéret]

Hi James,

I finally got around that lib32 problem and produced a new package (same
location:
https://github.com/downloads/cgueret/SemanticXO/performances.tar.gz )
The results you sent me last where weird, indicating no usage at all of
disc space and constant read/write time. That's too good to be true :-)
Could you please try again with this new version? It would be best this
time to run it from a terminal with Sugar switched off.

Thanks,
Christophe


On 8 November 2011 08:29, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 Aye, leaving Sugar running is a memory sucker.  Let me know if you need
 further testing.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with testing SemanticXO's backend

[James Cameron]

Aye, leaving Sugar running is a memory sucker.  Let me know if you need
further testing.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with testing SemanticXO's backend

[James Cameron]

On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 08:57:14AM +0100, Christophe Gu??ret wrote:
 Oups! I forgot I had installed that package system-wide.
 It's now in the bundle, please try again :-)

$ python performances_test.py  /dev/null
/bin/sh: ./redstore: /lib32/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No such
file or directory
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File performances_test.py, line 86, in module
uid = generate_journal_entry(store)
  File performances_test.py, line 62, in generate_journal_entry
store.store_object(metadata['uid'], metadata)
  File /home/olpc/performances/semanticxo/datastore.py, line 121, in 
store_object
conn.request(PUT, /data/%s % resource, body=graph.serialize(), 
headers=headers)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/httplib.py, line 946, in request
self._send_request(method, url, body, headers)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/httplib.py, line 987, in _send_request
self.endheaders(body)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/httplib.py, line 940, in endheaders
self._send_output(message_body)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/httplib.py, line 803, in _send_output
self.send(msg)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/httplib.py, line 755, in send
self.connect()
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/httplib.py, line 736, in connect
self.timeout, self.source_address)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/socket.py, line 567, in create_connection
raise error, msg
socket.error: [Errno 111] Connection refused
$ 

Fixed with

$ sudo ln -s /lib /lib32

Is now running.

(XO-1.5, Sugar 0.94.0, OLPC 11.3.0 candidate 881 ... just what I had
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with testing SemanticXO's backend

[Christophe Guéret]

Oups! I forgot I had installed that package system-wide.
It's now in the bundle, please try again :-)

Christophe


On 5 November 2011 01:03, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 05:17:07PM +0100, Christophe Gu?ret wrote:
  wget https://github.com/downloads/cgueret/SemanticXO/performances.tar.gz
  tar xzf performances.tar.gz
  cd performances
  python performances_test.py  /dev/null

 No module named rdflib.

 Suggestions?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with testing SemanticXO's backend (Christophe Gu?ret) [Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 37, Issue 13]

[Yioryos Asprobounitis]

 Message: 3
 Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 08:57:14 +0100
 From: Christophe Gu?ret c.d.m.gue...@vu.nl
 To: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org
 Cc: sugar-devel sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
 Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with testing SemanticXO's
 backend
 Message-ID:
     cabp9cahy31ccoauyrow0qd0vfgficbmisjxciwf_9iur4kr...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 
 Oups! I forgot I had installed that package system-wide.
 It's now in the bundle, please try again :-)
 
 Christophe
 
 

Still problematic on XO-1.5/os882

[olpc@xo-a7-4b-39 performances]$ python performances_test.py 
Start store
mkdir: cannot create directory `./redstore-data': File exists
/bin/sh: ./redstore: /lib32/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No such file or 
directory
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File performances_test.py, line 86, in module
uid = generate_journal_entry(store)
  File performances_test.py, line 62, in generate_journal_entry
store.store_object(metadata['uid'], metadata)
  File /home/olpc/performances/semanticxo/datastore.py, line 121, in 
store_object
conn.request(PUT, /data/%s % resource, body=graph.serialize(), 
headers=headers)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/httplib.py, line 946, in request
self._send_request(method, url, body, headers)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/httplib.py, line 987, in _send_request
self.endheaders(body)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/httplib.py, line 940, in endheaders
self._send_output(message_body)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/httplib.py, line 803, in _send_output
self.send(msg)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/httplib.py, line 755, in send
self.connect()
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/httplib.py, line 736, in connect
self.timeout, self.source_address)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/socket.py, line 567, in create_connection
raise error, msg
socket.error: [Errno 111] Connection refused
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with testing SemanticXO's backend

[James Cameron]

On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 05:17:07PM +0100, Christophe Gu?ret wrote:
 wget https://github.com/downloads/cgueret/SemanticXO/performances.tar.gz
 tar xzf performances.tar.gz
 cd performances
 python performances_test.py  /dev/null

No module named rdflib.

Suggestions?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help needed for childrens with physicals limitations / ayuda para niños con discapacidades

[Andres Aguirre]

thanks Walter and Peter for the list of activities to test!
Yesterday we release the first version of mouseCam
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4487 all the
feedback is welcome!
The marks needed to use the activity are inside the .xo, in the marks folder.
cheers
andres


2011/9/22 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com:
 2011/9/22 Andres Aguirre aguir...@gmail.com:
 it will be great! thank you :)
 if someone knows sugar applications that could be used with mouse and
 are simple it will be great to do some tests, now I'm using sokoban
 that has simple interaction and is very interesting.

 Maze, Memorize, SliderPuzzle, Implode, ...

 -walter

 andrés
 2011/9/21  kgordon...@gmail.com:
 Andres:

 I have a contact at Ryerson University here in Toronto who runs the rather 
 large research program which specifically works in the area of human device 
 interaction for technology  for severely disabled children, but he does not 
 currently work with the XO because of the small form-factor.  Would you 
 still like me to forward this to him as he might have some insight for you. 
  He's a big open-source advocate.

 KG

 KG
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 Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:09:48
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 sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org; de...@lists.laptop.org; 
 olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org; Comunidad 
 ceibalJAMolpc-urug...@lists.laptop.org; OLPC en castellano para usuarios, 
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 Guillermo Fernándezgfernandez1...@gmail.com; María Emilia 
 Silveiramesilveir...@gmail.com
 Subject: [Sugar-devel] Help needed for childrens with physi
        cals limitations / ayuda para niños con discapaci
        dades

 Hi all, I want to show you the first working prototype of mouseCAM
 activity, wich is design to help childrens with physical limitations.
 This activity communicates directly with the X server of the
 GNU/Linux, being able to be use in the XO computer with any activity
 or with the sugar system as well as any GNU/Linux with the graphic X
 server system. We are working at Faculty of Engineering, UdelaR,
 Uruguay in a course called NEXO with the aim of developing solutions
 for childrens in a special school here in Uruguay and I am working
 with Lorena, Guillermo and María Emilia to bring solutions to the
 childrens that nowdays can't use the XO computer. I need help, maybe
 people in this list knows about activities with very simple mouse or
 keyboard interaction, that can be used in this context. Also we are
 working in a turtleart plugin, in this case the children show a image
 that corresponds with a block and then the corresponding block
 connects with the last block in the programming area, this will be use
 to develop very simple programs, like draw geometric figures or to
 control the butia robot, but is a great improve for them.

 mouseCAM video:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepagev=4FX7uf-QeZ8

 Spanish bellow:

 Hola a todos, quiero mostrar el primer prototipo funcional de la
 actividad mouseCAM, esta actividad está diseñada para ayudar a los
 niños con limitaciones físicas. La actividad se comunica directamente
 con el servidor X del GNU / Linux, pudiendo ser utilizada en el
 contexto de la XO con cualquier actividad o con el sistema de azúcar,
 así como cualquier GNU / Linux con el sistema de ventanas X server.
 Estamos trabajando en la Facultad de Ingeniería de la UdelaR, Uruguay,
 en un curso llamado NEXO con el objetivo de desarrollar soluciones
 para los niños en una escuela especial de aquí y junto con Lorena,
 Guillermo y María Emilia estoy trabajando para aportar soluciones a
 los niños que hoy en dia no pueden usar la computadora XO. Necesito
 ayuda, tal vez la gente en esta lista sabe acerca de actividades que
 requieran interacción muy simple con el ratón o teclado, y que pueda
 ser utilizado en este contexto. También estamos trabajando en un
 plugin turtleart, en este caso los niños muestran una imagen que se
 corresponde con un bloque y el bloque correspondiente se conecta con
 el último bloque en el área de programación, esta se utiliza para
 desarrollar programas muy simples, como sacar geométricas figuras o
 para controlar el robot butia, pero es una gran mejora para ellos.

 video de mouseCAM:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepagev=4FX7uf-QeZ8

 cheers / saludos

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help needed for childrens with physicals limitations / ayuda para niños con discapacidades

[Andres Aguirre]

it will be great! thank you :)
if someone knows sugar applications that could be used with mouse and
are simple it will be great to do some tests, now I'm using sokoban
that has simple interaction and is very interesting.
andrés
2011/9/21  kgordon...@gmail.com:
 Andres:

 I have a contact at Ryerson University here in Toronto who runs the rather 
 large research program which specifically works in the area of human device 
 interaction for technology  for severely disabled children, but he does not 
 currently work with the XO because of the small form-factor.  Would you still 
 like me to forward this to him as he might have some insight for you.  He's a 
 big open-source advocate.

 KG

 KG
 Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network

 -Original Message-
 From: Andres Aguirre aguir...@gmail.com
 Sender: sugar-devel-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org
 Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:09:48
 To: IAEP SugarLabsi...@lists.sugarlabs.org; 
 sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org; de...@lists.laptop.org; 
 olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org; Comunidad 
 ceibalJAMolpc-urug...@lists.laptop.org; OLPC en castellano para usuarios, 
 docentes,volpc-...@lists.laptop.org; Lorena Calvolobli...@gmail.com; 
 Guillermo Fernándezgfernandez1...@gmail.com; María Emilia 
 Silveiramesilveir...@gmail.com
 Subject: [Sugar-devel] Help needed for childrens with physi
        cals limitations / ayuda para niños con discapaci
        dades

 Hi all, I want to show you the first working prototype of mouseCAM
 activity, wich is design to help childrens with physical limitations.
 This activity communicates directly with the X server of the
 GNU/Linux, being able to be use in the XO computer with any activity
 or with the sugar system as well as any GNU/Linux with the graphic X
 server system. We are working at Faculty of Engineering, UdelaR,
 Uruguay in a course called NEXO with the aim of developing solutions
 for childrens in a special school here in Uruguay and I am working
 with Lorena, Guillermo and María Emilia to bring solutions to the
 childrens that nowdays can't use the XO computer. I need help, maybe
 people in this list knows about activities with very simple mouse or
 keyboard interaction, that can be used in this context. Also we are
 working in a turtleart plugin, in this case the children show a image
 that corresponds with a block and then the corresponding block
 connects with the last block in the programming area, this will be use
 to develop very simple programs, like draw geometric figures or to
 control the butia robot, but is a great improve for them.

 mouseCAM video:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepagev=4FX7uf-QeZ8

 Spanish bellow:

 Hola a todos, quiero mostrar el primer prototipo funcional de la
 actividad mouseCAM, esta actividad está diseñada para ayudar a los
 niños con limitaciones físicas. La actividad se comunica directamente
 con el servidor X del GNU / Linux, pudiendo ser utilizada en el
 contexto de la XO con cualquier actividad o con el sistema de azúcar,
 así como cualquier GNU / Linux con el sistema de ventanas X server.
 Estamos trabajando en la Facultad de Ingeniería de la UdelaR, Uruguay,
 en un curso llamado NEXO con el objetivo de desarrollar soluciones
 para los niños en una escuela especial de aquí y junto con Lorena,
 Guillermo y María Emilia estoy trabajando para aportar soluciones a
 los niños que hoy en dia no pueden usar la computadora XO. Necesito
 ayuda, tal vez la gente en esta lista sabe acerca de actividades que
 requieran interacción muy simple con el ratón o teclado, y que pueda
 ser utilizado en este contexto. También estamos trabajando en un
 plugin turtleart, en este caso los niños muestran una imagen que se
 corresponde con un bloque y el bloque correspondiente se conecta con
 el último bloque en el área de programación, esta se utiliza para
 desarrollar programas muy simples, como sacar geométricas figuras o
 para controlar el robot butia, pero es una gran mejora para ellos.

 video de mouseCAM:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepagev=4FX7uf-QeZ8

 cheers / saludos

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help needed for childrens with physicals limitations / ayuda para niños con discapacidades

[Walter Bender]

2011/9/22 Andres Aguirre aguir...@gmail.com:
 it will be great! thank you :)
 if someone knows sugar applications that could be used with mouse and
 are simple it will be great to do some tests, now I'm using sokoban
 that has simple interaction and is very interesting.

Maze, Memorize, SliderPuzzle, Implode, ...

-walter

 andrés
 2011/9/21  kgordon...@gmail.com:
 Andres:

 I have a contact at Ryerson University here in Toronto who runs the rather 
 large research program which specifically works in the area of human device 
 interaction for technology  for severely disabled children, but he does not 
 currently work with the XO because of the small form-factor.  Would you 
 still like me to forward this to him as he might have some insight for you.  
 He's a big open-source advocate.

 KG

 KG
 Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network

 -Original Message-
 From: Andres Aguirre aguir...@gmail.com
 Sender: sugar-devel-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org
 Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:09:48
 To: IAEP SugarLabsi...@lists.sugarlabs.org; 
 sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org; de...@lists.laptop.org; 
 olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org; Comunidad 
 ceibalJAMolpc-urug...@lists.laptop.org; OLPC en castellano para usuarios, 
 docentes,volpc-...@lists.laptop.org; Lorena Calvolobli...@gmail.com; 
 Guillermo Fernándezgfernandez1...@gmail.com; María Emilia 
 Silveiramesilveir...@gmail.com
 Subject: [Sugar-devel] Help needed for childrens with physi
        cals limitations / ayuda para niños con discapaci
        dades

 Hi all, I want to show you the first working prototype of mouseCAM
 activity, wich is design to help childrens with physical limitations.
 This activity communicates directly with the X server of the
 GNU/Linux, being able to be use in the XO computer with any activity
 or with the sugar system as well as any GNU/Linux with the graphic X
 server system. We are working at Faculty of Engineering, UdelaR,
 Uruguay in a course called NEXO with the aim of developing solutions
 for childrens in a special school here in Uruguay and I am working
 with Lorena, Guillermo and María Emilia to bring solutions to the
 childrens that nowdays can't use the XO computer. I need help, maybe
 people in this list knows about activities with very simple mouse or
 keyboard interaction, that can be used in this context. Also we are
 working in a turtleart plugin, in this case the children show a image
 that corresponds with a block and then the corresponding block
 connects with the last block in the programming area, this will be use
 to develop very simple programs, like draw geometric figures or to
 control the butia robot, but is a great improve for them.

 mouseCAM video:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepagev=4FX7uf-QeZ8

 Spanish bellow:

 Hola a todos, quiero mostrar el primer prototipo funcional de la
 actividad mouseCAM, esta actividad está diseñada para ayudar a los
 niños con limitaciones físicas. La actividad se comunica directamente
 con el servidor X del GNU / Linux, pudiendo ser utilizada en el
 contexto de la XO con cualquier actividad o con el sistema de azúcar,
 así como cualquier GNU / Linux con el sistema de ventanas X server.
 Estamos trabajando en la Facultad de Ingeniería de la UdelaR, Uruguay,
 en un curso llamado NEXO con el objetivo de desarrollar soluciones
 para los niños en una escuela especial de aquí y junto con Lorena,
 Guillermo y María Emilia estoy trabajando para aportar soluciones a
 los niños que hoy en dia no pueden usar la computadora XO. Necesito
 ayuda, tal vez la gente en esta lista sabe acerca de actividades que
 requieran interacción muy simple con el ratón o teclado, y que pueda
 ser utilizado en este contexto. También estamos trabajando en un
 plugin turtleart, en este caso los niños muestran una imagen que se
 corresponde con un bloque y el bloque correspondiente se conecta con
 el último bloque en el área de programación, esta se utiliza para
 desarrollar programas muy simples, como sacar geométricas figuras o
 para controlar el robot butia, pero es una gran mejora para ellos.

 video de mouseCAM:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepagev=4FX7uf-QeZ8

 cheers / saludos

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help needed for childrens with physicals limitations / ayuda para niños con discapacidades

[kgordon420]

Andres:

I have a contact at Ryerson University here in Toronto who runs the rather 
large research program which specifically works in the area of human device 
interaction for technology  for severely disabled children, but he does not 
currently work with the XO because of the small form-factor.  Would you still 
like me to forward this to him as he might have some insight for you.  He's a 
big open-source advocate.

KG

KG
Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network

-Original Message-
From: Andres Aguirre aguir...@gmail.com
Sender: sugar-devel-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:09:48 
To: IAEP SugarLabsi...@lists.sugarlabs.org; 
sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org; de...@lists.laptop.org; 
olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org; Comunidad 
ceibalJAMolpc-urug...@lists.laptop.org; OLPC en castellano para usuarios, 
docentes,volpc-...@lists.laptop.org; Lorena Calvolobli...@gmail.com; 
Guillermo Fernándezgfernandez1...@gmail.com; María Emilia 
Silveiramesilveir...@gmail.com
Subject: [Sugar-devel] Help needed for childrens with physi
cals limitations / ayuda para niños con discapaci
dades

Hi all, I want to show you the first working prototype of mouseCAM
activity, wich is design to help childrens with physical limitations.
This activity communicates directly with the X server of the
GNU/Linux, being able to be use in the XO computer with any activity
or with the sugar system as well as any GNU/Linux with the graphic X
server system. We are working at Faculty of Engineering, UdelaR,
Uruguay in a course called NEXO with the aim of developing solutions
for childrens in a special school here in Uruguay and I am working
with Lorena, Guillermo and María Emilia to bring solutions to the
childrens that nowdays can't use the XO computer. I need help, maybe
people in this list knows about activities with very simple mouse or
keyboard interaction, that can be used in this context. Also we are
working in a turtleart plugin, in this case the children show a image
that corresponds with a block and then the corresponding block
connects with the last block in the programming area, this will be use
to develop very simple programs, like draw geometric figures or to
control the butia robot, but is a great improve for them.

mouseCAM video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepagev=4FX7uf-QeZ8

Spanish bellow:

Hola a todos, quiero mostrar el primer prototipo funcional de la
actividad mouseCAM, esta actividad está diseñada para ayudar a los
niños con limitaciones físicas. La actividad se comunica directamente
con el servidor X del GNU / Linux, pudiendo ser utilizada en el
contexto de la XO con cualquier actividad o con el sistema de azúcar,
así como cualquier GNU / Linux con el sistema de ventanas X server.
Estamos trabajando en la Facultad de Ingeniería de la UdelaR, Uruguay,
en un curso llamado NEXO con el objetivo de desarrollar soluciones
para los niños en una escuela especial de aquí y junto con Lorena,
Guillermo y María Emilia estoy trabajando para aportar soluciones a
los niños que hoy en dia no pueden usar la computadora XO. Necesito
ayuda, tal vez la gente en esta lista sabe acerca de actividades que
requieran interacción muy simple con el ratón o teclado, y que pueda
ser utilizado en este contexto. También estamos trabajando en un
plugin turtleart, en este caso los niños muestran una imagen que se
corresponde con un bloque y el bloque correspondiente se conecta con
el último bloque en el área de programación, esta se utiliza para
desarrollar programas muy simples, como sacar geométricas figuras o
para controlar el robot butia, pero es una gran mejora para ellos.

video de mouseCAM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepagev=4FX7uf-QeZ8

cheers / saludos

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help testing Sugar 0.93.x

[Thomas C Gilliard]

Simon Schampijer wrote:

Hi,

we have been landing the features targeted at 0.94 and are currently 
in the phase of fixing bugs related to those features and other 
changes introduced by recent code changes [1]. I have been starting to 
create notes about the Features and changes that have been made [2]. 
Those will evolve over time but should give you a good first 
impression about the recent additions and changes.


There are two olpc builds that contain the latest changes os3 [3] for 
the i686 architecture (XO 1 and XO 1.5) and os41 [4] for the new ARM 
hardware.


It would be great if people with those hardware (or sugar-jhbuild or 
Fedora 16) could help testing so that we are able to fix bugs in time. 
Bugs related to Sugar and activities should be filed under [5],
Surf-115 and Surf-115.xo no longer start in Sugar 0.93.x ; neither does 
Browse-125.xo
(Firefox-6.xo WORKS BUT does not write to the journal and is not 
completely sugarized)


Fedora 16 Sugar (and Soas) no longer have a working Browser:

http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3055#comment:4

I will load os3 in my XO-1 and XO-1.5 and test ...

Tom Gilliard
satellit
bugs that are related to the new 1.75 hardware (or that are specific 
to the XO hardware) should be filed at [6]. Please make sure to note 
as well the build version and hardware you are using for testing in 
the bug report.


Please stay tuned for new builds that will be announced on those lists.

Regards,
   Simon

[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.94/Roadmap#Schedule
[2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.94/Notes
[3] http://build.laptop.org/11.3.0/os3/
[4] http://build.laptop.org/F14-arm/os41/
[5] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/
[6] http://dev.laptop.org/
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help testing Sugar 0.93.x

[Mikus Grinbergs]

Fedora 16 Sugar (and Soas) no longer have a working Browser:

I will load os3 in my XO-1 and XO-1.5 and test ...


Except for missing the fix from Ticket #10699, Browse-125 works 
adequately on os3 on the XO-1 and on the XO-1.5


mikus

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with OS Builder

[Peter Robinson]

2011/8/26 Christophe Guéret c.d.m.gue...@vu.nl:
 Hi all,

 I'm using the OS builder to create a customized 11.2.0 for my XOs 1 and I
 can't figure out how to do two things:
 * Include a new binary which is not packaged + the related start scripts
 * Overwrite sugar-datastore with a custom version

 The informations at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OS_Builder and the README
 shipped with the modules left me with no answer :-/

 Can someone help me with that?

1) Create a yum repository with your packages in them using createrepo
2) Specify the repo in your ini file in the [yumcfg]
3) Add the packages in an appropriate kspkglist file. See the
following as an example
modules/sugar/kspkglist.50.sugar.inc

Peter
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with OS Builder

[Jerry Vonau]

On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 09:15 +0200, Christophe Guéret wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm using the OS builder to create a customized 11.2.0 for my XOs 1
 and I can't figure out how to do two things:
 * Include a new binary which is not packaged + the related start
 scripts
Are your saying not in rpm format? 

 * Overwrite sugar-datastore with a custom version
 
As in pre-populated with entries?

 The informations at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OS_Builder and the
 README shipped with the modules left me with no answer :-/
 
 Can someone help me with that?
 

The only clean way would be to enable the custom_scripts module in your
ini file, then write your own script. 

Jerry

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with OS Builder

[Christophe Guéret]

On 26/08/11 13:04, Jerry Vonau wrote:

On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 09:15 +0200, Christophe Guéret wrote:

Hi all,

I'm using the OS builder to create a customized 11.2.0 for my XOs 1
and I can't figure out how to do two things:
* Include a new binary which is not packaged + the related start
scripts

Are your saying not in rpm format?
Yep. The program is called redstore and I can compile it manually but 
then I have to include the binary into my images.





* Overwrite sugar-datastore with a custom version

As in pre-populated with entries?

Nope, as in with a different datastore that replace the one commonly used :)




The informations at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OS_Builder and the
README shipped with the modules left me with no answer :-/

Can someone help me with that?


The only clean way would be to enable the custom_scripts module in your
ini file, then write your own script.

Ok, I'll have a look.

Christophe


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with OS Builder

[Christophe Guéret]

1) Create a yum repository with your packages in them using createrepo
2) Specify the repo in your ini file in the [yumcfg]
3) Add the packages in an appropriate kspkglist file. See the
following as an example
modules/sugar/kspkglist.50.sugar.inc

Thanks for the suggestion Peter, however I don't think that's what I need.
I don't have any RPM for the things I need to package so creating a new 
repository wouldn't help


Christophe


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