Re: [Sugar-devel] Live USB Creator (Fedora) and experimental SoaS builds

2009-10-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 19:29, Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu wrote:
 I've been unable to build any SoaS other than Strawberry with Fedora's Live
 USB Creator.

Ruben, what has Trisquel for Windows users that want to create a live usb?

Thanks,

Tomeu

 Are the experimental versions (including SoaS02.iso) this way by design?

 As a person basically working within the Windows OS, the Live USB Creator is
 a godsend to me.

 I'm sure it's a godsend to anyone not steeped in Linux. Without such an easy
 way of accessing Sugar and its activities, users unfamiliar with Linux are
 unlikely, at least on an individual basis, to become involved with Sugar.
 This includes developers such as myself.

 I so much hope that significant improvements to Sugar can be made available
 through Live USB Creator. If this occurs, those outside the Linux community
 can readily get involved and offer crucial feedback.

 Art Hunkins

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Live USB Creator (Fedora) and experimental SoaS builds

2009-10-13 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hear hear!

BTW, I submitted a patch to LiveUSB creator to build a proper installer for
the program; I'm not sure if it was ever rolled into the official version.

Best,
Wade

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu wrote:

 I've been unable to build any SoaS other than Strawberry with Fedora's Live
 USB Creator.

 Are the experimental versions (including SoaS02.iso) this way by design?

 As a person basically working within the Windows OS, the Live USB Creator
 is
 a godsend to me.

 I'm sure it's a godsend to anyone not steeped in Linux. Without such an
 easy
 way of accessing Sugar and its activities, users unfamiliar with Linux are
 unlikely, at least on an individual basis, to become involved with Sugar.
 This includes developers such as myself.

 I so much hope that significant improvements to Sugar can be made available
 through Live USB Creator. If this occurs, those outside the Linux community
 can readily get involved and offer crucial feedback.

 Art Hunkins

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Live USB Creator (Fedora) and experimental SoaS builds- try script or zyx-liveinstaller for USB creation

2009-10-13 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
Look at
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux#SoaS_v2_Installation

boot from live CD then start sugar-terminal:

Works here on 4 GB Sandisk USB on hp Pavillion (AMD Turion 64) Laptop
* 200 MiB  ext2 for /boot
* 2.93 GiB ext4 for /
* 902 Mib  linux-swap
selinux problem fixed, boots fine (wired).

Tom Gilliard
satellit

Douglas McClendon wrote:

 I've made important fixes to zyx-liveinstaller, the install-to-disk tool 
 in soas02.iso.

 * Tue Oct 13 2009 Douglas McClendon - dmc AT viros DOT org - 0.1.14-1
 - bugfix: handle nondefault kernel cmdline args
 - debug: backend failure exception propogation tested and working
 - bugfix: catch exception for situation with no /dev/disk/by-id
 - bugfix: yes, there seems to have indeed been a bug with no-swap installs

 v0.1.12 is in soas02.iso.  If you want to test immediately with 
 soas02.iso, start terminal, become root, and type

 rpm -e zyx-liveinstaller
 rpm -Uvh \ 
 http://filteredperception.org/downloads/zyx-liveinstaller/zyx-liveinstaller-0.1.14-1.i386.rpm

 Then as root or non-root, launch by typing 'zyx-liveinstaller' as usual.

 The prior removal is necessary due to I think subtle packaging spec file 
 differences between me and what Sebastian uses for the Fedora 
 repositories builds.

 During my qemu test with soas02.iso, I actually used gparted.  It isn't 
 obvious anywhere, but you can create your destination partition(s) as 
 'unformatted' as opposed to 'ext2' or whatever.  The installer formats 
 and flags the partitions correctly, so if gparted formats them, it won't 
 hurt, but it takes time.  And note that under qemu's small resolution, 
 you are a click away in two places from seeing gparted's 'apply' button 
 which on decent resolutions, is normally just visible.

 Bugs, feedback, patches, praise, and criticism encouraged as always...

 Cheers,

 -dmc



Art Hunkins wrote:
 I've been unable to build any SoaS other than Strawberry with Fedora's Live 
 USB Creator.

 Are the experimental versions (including SoaS02.iso) this way by design?

 As a person basically working within the Windows OS, the Live USB Creator is 
 a godsend to me.

 I'm sure it's a godsend to anyone not steeped in Linux. Without such an easy 
 way of accessing Sugar and its activities, users unfamiliar with Linux are 
 unlikely, at least on an individual basis, to become involved with Sugar. 
 This includes developers such as myself.

 I so much hope that significant improvements to Sugar can be made available 
 through Live USB Creator. If this occurs, those outside the Linux community 
 can readily get involved and offer crucial feedback.

 Art Hunkins 

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Live USB Creator (Fedora) and experimental SoaS builds

2009-10-13 Thread Luke Macken
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 02:45:06PM -0400, Wade Brainerd wrote:
 Hear hear!
 
 BTW, I submitted a patch to LiveUSB creator to build a proper installer for
 the program; I'm not sure if it was ever rolled into the official version.

I'm sorry for the delay in merging your patch, but I haven't had many
cycles to put into the liveusb-creator lately, since it's kind of a
side-project for me at the moment.

However, I do have a couple of changes lined up and am hoping to get a
new release out within the next week.  So, I'll give your installer a
shot and see if I can push it out in the next version.

Do you guys need any additional changes to support newer versions of the
SOAS?

Thanks,

luke

(ps, if you're interested in helping out with the liveusb-creator
project, please let me know, as we could definitely use the help of
hackers, bug triagers, doc writers, marketing folk, release engineers, etc).
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