Re: [Sugar-devel] Priorities for testing

2010-09-25 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Tim McNamara's message of Fri Sep 24 22:37:18 +0200 2010:

 The New Zealand testing groups will be operating in a few hours. If you have
 any requests for things to be explored, please respond within 5 hours.

That was a bit short notice. For the next test session, it would be nice
if you could try Backup [1] and Restore [2].

Sascha

[1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4326
[2] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4327
--
http://sascha.silbe.org/
http://www.infra-silbe.de/


signature.asc
Description: PGP signature
___
Sugar-devel mailing list
Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel


Re: [Sugar-devel] Priorities for testing

2010-09-25 Thread Tabitha Roder

 That was a bit short notice. For the next test session, it would be nice
 if you could try Backup [1] and Restore [2].

 In Auckland we did test Backup and Restore today.  We post our testing
summaries to two mailing lists: test...@lists.laptop.org,
olpc...@lists.laptop.org
Basically they worked, though it was a bit confusing that you don't open
restore and then choose the file on the USB. We couldn't use another XOs
backup file (which is good, right?).
Some instructions for the user might be helpful - when you open the backup
activity would be good to click a question mark and see explanation of
activity, like what happens in the finance activity. Also, there was no
obvious notification that the backup file creation was completed.
Tabitha
___
Sugar-devel mailing list
Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel


Re: [Sugar-devel] Priorities for testing

2010-09-25 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Tabitha Roder's message of Sat Sep 25 10:49:42 +0200 2010:

  In Auckland we did test Backup and Restore today.  We post our testing
 summaries to two mailing lists: test...@lists.laptop.org,
 olpc...@lists.laptop.org

Great, thanks!

 Basically they worked, though it was a bit confusing that you don't open
 restore and then choose the file on the USB.

OK, will add this to my to-do list. No idea when I'll get around to
implementing this as I expect similar problems as with interfacing with
sugar-datastore across all of 0.82-0.90 which took me several days
full-time to get working.

 We couldn't use another XOs backup file (which is good, right?).

Exactly the opposite of good, actually. What was the problem? Do you
have a copy of the log file and backup bundle?

 Some instructions for the user might be helpful

Yeah, that's already on my to-do list, though everyone is welcome to
help out on this one. There are also quite a few quirks in Sugar 0.82
that users should know about (resp. have a step-by-step instruction to
follow so they won't hit these quirks).

 Also, there was no obvious notification that the backup file creation was 
 completed.

This is especially true on the old OLPC builds (with Sugar 0.82) as the
GTK version shipped with them contains a bug that causes the labelling
of the progress bar to get overwritten by the bar. :(
A subtle hint is that the Backup button is active again, but I should
add a more obvious indication.

From your more detailed post on testing@:

 Tried to click on the file on the usb that says it is the journal backup for
 this laptop - it seems to open the restore activity but hard to tell as not
 labelled as such in the frame

Can you elaborate on this, please? I just tried on both Sugar 0.90 and
0.82 and it's labelled clearly in the Frame each time: Journal backup
of ... on 0.82 and Restore + Journal backup of ... on 0.90.
Did you see something else or did you expect some additional information
in the Frame? If the former, the logs (both shell*.log and
org.sugarlabs.Restore*.log) would be useful.

 Ran the restore and it seems to work but it on both XOs we
 get two copies of the .xmj journal backup file in the Journal.

Yes, that's a limitation of Sugar [1]. If you resume anything from
outside the Journal (e.g. a USB stick) it gets copied to the Journal
first. There's no way for an activity to opt-out from this.
In the case of Restore that's especially bad because you need to have
enough free space for all of the entries AND the backup bundle.
We might be able to get around this by accessing the external medium
directly like we do in Backup, but it requires a lot of work as we need
UI to choose the file.

Sascha

[1] https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/496
--
http://sascha.silbe.org/
http://www.infra-silbe.de/


signature.asc
Description: PGP signature
___
Sugar-devel mailing list
Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel


Re: [Sugar-devel] Priorities for testing

2010-09-25 Thread Tabitha Roder

  Tried to click on the file on the usb that says it is the journal backup
 for
  this laptop - it seems to open the restore activity but hard to tell as
 not
  labelled as such in the frame

 Can you elaborate on this, please? I just tried on both Sugar 0.90 and
 0.82 and it's labelled clearly in the Frame each time: Journal backup
 of ... on 0.82 and Restore + Journal backup of ... on 0.90.
 Did you see something else or did you expect some additional information
 in the Frame? If the former, the logs (both shell*.log and
 org.sugarlabs.Restore*.log) would be useful.

 Normally you get the name of the activity in the frame not the name of the
file, we are getting the name of the file. I was expecting to see Restore
in the frame and in the activity itself see some files I can choose from to
restore (so if I did a backup once a week to my USB stick I could choose the
newest backup file to restore or an older one if my last backup was bad).
Tabitha
___
Sugar-devel mailing list
Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel


Re: [Sugar-devel] Priorities for testing

2010-09-24 Thread Walter Bender
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Tim McNamara
paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz wrote:
 The New Zealand testing groups will be operating in a few hours. If you have
 any requests for things to be explored, please respond within 5 hours.

I have a new (soon to be released) version of Turtle Art I'd love for
them to testL

http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/attachment/ticket/2353/TurtleArt-99.xo

features/enhancements include:
* reskinable turtle (#2353)
* setxy honors pen up/pen down (#2358)
* updated Tamil, Spanish (#2359), and German translations
* expandable two-argument blocks (#2330, #2336)
* updated samples to take advantage of #2330 and removed extra turtles
* removed import numpy to fix #2313 and #2314

-walter


 Thank you

 Tim
 ___
 Sugar-devel mailing list
 Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
 http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel





-- 
Walter Bender
Sugar Labs
http://www.sugarlabs.org
___
Sugar-devel mailing list
Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel