Re: [Sugar-devel] icons for paragraph toolbar
Hi Fred, On 7 Sep 2009, at 06:10, Frederick Grose wrote: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: ... Insert table icon is already in sugar-artwork, it's called insert- table.svg and looks OK to me, but I can't see it being set by the InsertToolbar class so it looks like we get a default low res bitmap instead: What we currently get is What we should be getting is I'd be very tempted to use this for the Table primary icon (as well as for the add table palette). The rest of the table SVG icons seem reasonable to me (add row, remove row, add column, remove column): The insert and delete row/column icons have arrows that suggest the movement of the surrounding data rather than the selected object (row or column), which would be highlighted. Please consider following that convention to show the action on the selected object, similar to the attached (rows column.PNG). Just to be clear. So it's not so much the use of arrows, but that the specific object affected (a row, a column) is not highlighted clearly in the icons? Thanks for taking an interest! Regards, --Gary ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] icons for paragraph toolbar
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: ... The insert and delete row/column icons have arrows that suggest the movement of the surrounding data rather than the selected object (row or column), which would be highlighted. Please consider following that convention to show the action on the selected object, similar to the attached (rows column.PNG). Just to be clear. So it's not so much the use of arrows, but that the specific object affected (a row, a column) is not highlighted clearly in the icons? With 2 tones of gray, light and dark, (over the black background and white outline), I have trouble instantly identifying which is the highlight. In the delete case, if there is a highlight, it would seem to be the outer elements, so that suggests the darker gray is the highlight. I may be confused because the row or column that I highlighted in the sheet usually takes on a darker shade, while the center row or column in the icon is lighter. It requires me a lot of thought to work out a logic that overcomes what appears to be a dissonance between the subject and action of the arrow and my perception of the intended action. Thanks again Gary, hope that helps, --Fred ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] icons for paragraph toolbar
I created a walter clone of Write where I pushed (most) of these
changes. (I need to work on the tables still.) Please let me know what
you think. (I created an icon for the heading-style menu, attached.)
-walter
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote:
Hi Walter,
On 4 Sep 2009, at 22:56, Walter Bender wrote:
Attached are proposed patches to toolbar.py and widgets.py
Seemingly pretty straight-forward stuff... but we need icons :)
Sorry, haven't got to look at your patches yet, but here's the icons I have
so far...
Here's a possible replacement Insert Image icon (if you like it):
Here's a primary toolbar icon for the secondary toolbar of bullet styles:
Insert table icon is already in sugar-artwork, it's called insert-table.svg
and looks OK to me, but I can't see it being set by the InsertToolbar class
so it looks like we get a default low res bitmap instead:
What we currently get is
What we should be getting is
I'd be very tempted to use this for the Table primary icon (as well as for
the add table palette). The rest of the table SVG icons seem reasonable to
me (add row, remove row, add column, remove column):
Here's a set of icons for paragraph style headings 1 to 4:
Here's an icon for the block text paragraph style:
Here's my favourite attempt so far at an icon for the Plain Text paragraph
style:
It's a tough one, but if you don't like the above, here's another try:
Plus, I haven't figured out where to put Plain. In the Headings palette
perhaps?
I popped Plain in the secondary Paragraph style toolbar (see toolbar
layout in text below), it's with the headings and justify tools so I think
that's the same place your referring to.
We'll also need to violate string freeze, I am afraid to include the
Headings hint.
Walter, there's no need to be scared ;-)
Ohh, quick toolbar bug while I remember: The Undo accelerator key is mapped
to Ctrl+Q for some reason, so you can't currently quite Write with that
shortcut ;-)
Regards,
--Gary
P.S. Shout if you think I've missed an icon you need!
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com
wrote:
Hi Walter,
If I focus on generating need icons (and some order suggestions) would
you
pick up patching the Write toolbars? I can then move onto other icons for
Simon (and my own Labyrinth/Physics/Moon).
Here's a first pass at the toolbar to get an idea of icons needed. The
HIG
has space for 14 icons max, so things are pretty tight here. I would like
to
move 'Insert image' out of 'Table' and onto the primary toolbar, but
that
put's it perhaps too close to the 'Stop' button (I'd like to leave a 1x
icon
gap if possible):
[Activity]
Title input
{Share palette}
{Export palette}
Keep
[Edit]
Copy
Paste
Undo
Redo
[View]
Zoom in
Zoom out
(Zoom combo box)
(Page combo box)
Search input box -- should have string Search: prefixing
the input box
Find previous
Find next
[Paragraph style]
Heading 1 -- need icon
Heading 2 -- need icon
Heading 3 -- need icon
Heading 4 -- need icon
Block text -- need icon
Plain Text -- need icon
Left justify
Centre justify
Right justify
Fill justify
[List style] -- need icon
Normal
Bullet list
Dashed list
Numbered list
Lower case list
Upper case list
[Font style]
(Font list menu)
(Font size menu)
[Table] -- need better icon
{Add table palette} -- need better icon
Add row -- need better icon
Remove row -- need better icon
Add column -- need better icon
Remove column -- need better icon
Insert Image -- have a better icon (see Labyrinth)
Bold
Italic
Underline
{Colour picker palette}
...
...
Stop
Seem OK? I can work on these a little tonight, but also tomorrow.
Regards,
--Gary
On 3 Sep 2009, at 15:21, Walter Bender wrote:
I think you'd get a +1 from both uwog and me. There are already
individual icons for the bullet styles. Adding the same for the
heading styles and then eliminating the drop-down menu doesn't seem
too invasive. But we'll need to add a new string for the heading-style
button, breaking string freeze.
If we can agree upon the icons, I can try my hand at creating the patch.
-walter
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com
wrote:
Hi Walter,
Thanks, have also popped them on the wiki page for reference:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/New_Toolbars
I haven't started on the Write toolbar polish and
Re: [Sugar-devel] icons for paragraph toolbar
Hi Walter, On 6 Sep 2009, at 13:52, Walter Bender wrote: I created a walter clone of Write where I pushed (most) of these changes. (I need to work on the tables still.) Please let me know what you think. (I created an icon for the heading-style menu, attached.) Hmmm, not sure if I'm getting this correctly in sugar-jhbuild (I edit config/modulesets/fructose.modules to point to write/walter.git, delete source/write, do an update which looks to pull the new stuff, then a build). I'm just seeing some of the new icons in what looks like the old palettes, no change to the primary titlebar (either in order or content). Would you mind if I took a shot at this? Regards, --Gary ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] icons for paragraph toolbar
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: ... Insert table icon is already in sugar-artwork, it's called insert-table.svg and looks OK to me, but I can't see it being set by the InsertToolbar class so it looks like we get a default low res bitmap instead: What we currently get is What we should be getting is I'd be very tempted to use this for the Table primary icon (as well as for the add table palette). The rest of the table SVG icons seem reasonable to me (add row, remove row, add column, remove column): The insert and delete row/column icons have arrows that suggest the movement of the surrounding data rather than the selected object (row or column), which would be highlighted. Please consider following that convention to show the action on the selected object, similar to the attached (rows column.PNG). Thanks for your efforts! --Fred attachment: table_tools.pngattachment: rows.PNGattachment: column.PNG___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] icons for paragraph toolbar
On 4 Sep 2009, at 17:55, Eben Eliason wrote:
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com
wrote:
Hi Walter,
If I focus on generating need icons (and some order suggestions)
would you
pick up patching the Write toolbars? I can then move onto other
icons for
Simon (and my own Labyrinth/Physics/Moon).
Here's a first pass at the toolbar to get an idea of icons needed.
The HIG
has space for 14 icons max, so things are pretty tight here. I
would like to
move 'Insert image' out of 'Table' and onto the primary toolbar,
but that
put's it perhaps too close to the 'Stop' button (I'd like to leave
a 1x icon
gap if possible):
[Activity]
Title input
{Share palette}
{Export palette}
Keep
[Edit]
Copy
Paste
Undo
Redo
[View]
Zoom in
Zoom out
(Zoom combo box)
(Page combo box)
Search input box -- should have string Search:
prefixing
the input box
Find previous
Find next
[Paragraph style]
Heading 1 -- need icon
Heading 2 -- need icon
Heading 3 -- need icon
Heading 4 -- need icon
Block text -- need icon
Plain Text -- need icon
Left justify
Centre justify
Right justify
Fill justify
[List style]-- need icon
Normal
Bullet list
Dashed list
Numbered list
Lower case list
Upper case list
[Font style]
(Font list menu)
(Font size menu)
[Table] -- need better icon
{Add table palette} -- need better icon
Add row -- need better icon
Remove row -- need better icon
Add column -- need better icon
Remove column -- need better icon
Insert Image-- have a better icon (see Labyrinth)
Bold
Italic
Underline
{Colour picker palette}
...
...
Stop
Seem OK? I can work on these a little tonight, but also tomorrow.
Looks pretty good to me.
Fab.
I think that the find controls belong on the
edit toolbar, though.
Sure, seems a fair change to me :-)
Have some of the icons ready, will send out an email later tonight
once I've hit a few more. Note that some of these icons used are from
sugar-artwork so will need committed there.
Regards,
--Gary
P.S. Bringing this thread on to list (started out as off list email
chit chat) so folks are not left out the loop.
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