Re: [suggest] Re: perl-DateTime-Format-Strptime-1.1000-1.el5.rf.noarch: glibc_date_format missing
On 2010-07-17 14:33:53 +0200, Christoph Maser wrote: Am Freitag, den 16.07.2010, 12:35 +0200 schrieb Peter J. Holzer: On 2010-07-16 10:38:39 +0200, Gerd v. Egidy wrote: after this, put an exclusion in your yum config so that your yum won't see the spurious perl-DateTime-Locale-0.4001 package. we intend to remove perl-DateTime-Locale-0.4001 from the repo entirely, and i'll post to the users list when that is done. Hmm. This would require everyone affected to manually fix it (with the commands you used or the yum downgrade I used). Wouldn't it make sense to increase the epoch for perl-DateTime-Locale-0.45? This way yum would automatically know that 0.45 is the newer version and upgrade to it. No manual steps involved, no more users asking what the problem is,... Alternatively, version 0.45 could be spelled 0.4500. I don't like that solution, I don't like it either, but I think it's the least bad solution. the packages should have the same version as upstream uses them. Well, in Perl terms that is the same version. Perl versions are floating point numbers, so 0.45 == 0.450 == 0.4500 == 0.45000 and so on. So a sequence of version numbers like 0.4, 0.4001, 0.45 is reasonable, but rpm (which has to deal with many different versioning systems) interpretes the version number not as a floating point number but as a dot-separated series of integers. Writing the floating point number with a fixed number of decimals fixes this. Increasing the epoch works, too. But I think that's a slight misuse of the epoch system and it's easier to miss at an upgrade. We should at least remove the 4001 version from the pool. And what do you do when the the maintainer releases version 0.5 next? Remove all previous versions? hp -- _ | Peter J. Holzer| Auf jedem Computer sollte der Satz Ludwigs II |_|_) | Sysadmin WSR | eingeprägt stehen: Ein ewig Rätsel will ich | | | h...@wsr.ac.at | bleiben, mir und andern. __/ | http://www.hjp.at/ |-- Wolfram Heinrich in desd signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ suggest mailing list suggest@lists.rpmforge.net http://lists.rpmforge.net/mailman/listinfo/suggest
Re: [suggest] Re: perl-DateTime-Format-Strptime-1.1000-1.el5.rf.noarch: glibc_date_format missing
Am Donnerstag, den 15.07.2010, 09:45 -0400 schrieb Steve Huff: $ sudo rpm -e --nodeps perl-DateTime-Locale perl-DateTime-Format-Strptime Propably better: rpm --oldpackage -U perl-DateTime-Locale-0.45-1.el5.rf.noarch.rpm +C ___ suggest mailing list suggest@lists.rpmforge.net http://lists.rpmforge.net/mailman/listinfo/suggest
Re: [suggest] Re: perl-DateTime-Format-Strptime-1.1000-1.el5.rf.noarch: glibc_date_format missing
Am Freitag, den 16.07.2010, 12:35 +0200 schrieb Peter J. Holzer: On 2010-07-16 10:38:39 +0200, Gerd v. Egidy wrote: after this, put an exclusion in your yum config so that your yum won't see the spurious perl-DateTime-Locale-0.4001 package. we intend to remove perl-DateTime-Locale-0.4001 from the repo entirely, and i'll post to the users list when that is done. Hmm. This would require everyone affected to manually fix it (with the commands you used or the yum downgrade I used). Wouldn't it make sense to increase the epoch for perl-DateTime-Locale-0.45? This way yum would automatically know that 0.45 is the newer version and upgrade to it. No manual steps involved, no more users asking what the problem is,... Alternatively, version 0.45 could be spelled 0.4500. hp I don't like that solution, the packages should have the same version as upstream uses them. We should at least remove the 4001 version from the pool. +C ___ suggest mailing list suggest@lists.rpmforge.net http://lists.rpmforge.net/mailman/listinfo/suggest
[suggest] Re: perl-DateTime-Format-Strptime-1.1000-1.el5.rf.noarch: glibc_date_format missing
Hi Steve, Can't locate object method glibc_date_format via package DateTime::Locale::en_US at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/DateTime/Format/Strptime.pm line 780 the issue is the following: [...] Thanks for your quick and detailed response. so, what's the fix for this situation? one fix is as follows: $ yumdownloader perl-DateTime-Locale-0.45 $ sudo rpm -e --nodeps perl-DateTime-Locale perl-DateTime-Format-Strptime $ sudo rpm -U ./perl-DateTime-Locale-0.45* $ sudo yum install perl-DateTime-Format-Strptime I just used yum downgrade perl-DateTime-Locale-0.45 and it worked like a charm. after this, put an exclusion in your yum config so that your yum won't see the spurious perl-DateTime-Locale-0.4001 package. we intend to remove perl-DateTime-Locale-0.4001 from the repo entirely, and i'll post to the users list when that is done. Hmm. This would require everyone affected to manually fix it (with the commands you used or the yum downgrade I used). Wouldn't it make sense to increase the epoch for perl-DateTime-Locale-0.45? This way yum would automatically know that 0.45 is the newer version and upgrade to it. No manual steps involved, no more users asking what the problem is,... Kind regards, Gerd -- Address (better: trap) for people I really don't want to get mail from: jo...@cactusamerica.com ___ suggest mailing list suggest@lists.rpmforge.net http://lists.rpmforge.net/mailman/listinfo/suggest
Re: [suggest] Re: perl-DateTime-Format-Strptime-1.1000-1.el5.rf.noarch: glibc_date_format missing
On 2010-07-16 10:38:39 +0200, Gerd v. Egidy wrote: after this, put an exclusion in your yum config so that your yum won't see the spurious perl-DateTime-Locale-0.4001 package. we intend to remove perl-DateTime-Locale-0.4001 from the repo entirely, and i'll post to the users list when that is done. Hmm. This would require everyone affected to manually fix it (with the commands you used or the yum downgrade I used). Wouldn't it make sense to increase the epoch for perl-DateTime-Locale-0.45? This way yum would automatically know that 0.45 is the newer version and upgrade to it. No manual steps involved, no more users asking what the problem is,... Alternatively, version 0.45 could be spelled 0.4500. hp -- _ | Peter J. Holzer| Auf jedem Computer sollte der Satz Ludwigs II |_|_) | Sysadmin WSR | eingeprägt stehen: Ein ewig Rätsel will ich | | | h...@wsr.ac.at | bleiben, mir und andern. __/ | http://www.hjp.at/ |-- Wolfram Heinrich in desd signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ suggest mailing list suggest@lists.rpmforge.net http://lists.rpmforge.net/mailman/listinfo/suggest
[suggest] Re: perl-DateTime-Format-Strptime-1.1000-1.el5.rf.noarch: glibc_date_format missing
On Jul 15, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Gerd v. Egidy wrote: Can't locate object method glibc_date_format via package DateTime::Locale::en_US at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/DateTime/Format/Strptime.pm line 780 After downgrading to perl-DateTime-Format-Strptime-1.1000-1.el5.rf.noarch everything worked again. Is this a problem in perl-DateTime-Format-Strptime-1.2000-1.el5.rf.noarch, some missing dependency or some misconfiguration on my side? the issue is the following: 1) the DateTime-Locale Perl distribution is generally versioned like 0.XX, 0.XY etc., as you can see from the Changelog: http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/DROLSKY/DateTime-Locale-0.45/Changes however, on May 19, 2008, the developer released version 0.4001, intending that version to sort between versions 0.40 and 0.41. from a Perlish standpoint, this is not unreasonable. 2) rpm's version comparison algorithm, however, sorts 0.4001 after 0.41 (Google for rpmvercmp if you want a more detailed explanation of why this is). 3) RPMforge has a perl-DateTime-Locale-0.4001 package, and many people (including you) have it installed on your system. 4) DateTime-Format-Strptime = 1.2000 requires DateTime-Locale = 0.45. 5) RPMforge has a perl-DateTime-Locale-0.45 package; however, yum (and rpm) don't see it as an available update because of point #2 above. so, what's the fix for this situation? one fix is as follows: $ yumdownloader perl-DateTime-Locale-0.45 $ sudo rpm -e --nodeps perl-DateTime-Locale perl-DateTime-Format-Strptime $ sudo rpm -U ./perl-DateTime-Locale-0.45* $ sudo yum install perl-DateTime-Format-Strptime after this, put an exclusion in your yum config so that your yum won't see the spurious perl-DateTime-Locale-0.4001 package. we intend to remove perl-DateTime-Locale-0.4001 from the repo entirely, and i'll post to the users list when that is done. -steve -- If this were played upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an improbable fiction. - Fabian, Twelfth Night, III,v http://five.sentenc.es PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ suggest mailing list suggest@lists.rpmforge.net http://lists.rpmforge.net/mailman/listinfo/suggest
