Re: [sumo-user] vehicles teleport over junctions

2018-06-27 Thread Jakob Erdmann 
When simulating huge cities, the coarser model conserves computation
effort. Also, when using the mesoscopic model, the junction internals are
not modelled so this is a way of preserving route lengths.

regards,
Jakob

2018-06-27 10:52 GMT+02:00 Menno van der Woude :

> Out of curiosity: why could having no internal links in the simulation be
> desirable?
>
> Greets, Menno
>
> On 26-6-2018 19:20, Jakob Erdmann wrote:
>
>> When the option --no-internal-links is enabled, streets are made
>> artificially longer so that the total route length matches the
>> geometrically traveled distance despite "jumping" over intersections. The
>> vehicle positions are interpolated to compensate (resulting in visually
>> short distances while queued).
>> Whereas other lane-based objects such as InductionLoops are also placed
>> at interpolated positions, the E2 detectors are drawn in the wrong spot
>> resulting in the reported mismatch between TraCI and GUI (now tracked at
>> https://github.com/eclipse/sumo/issues/4288).
>>
>> regards,
>> Jakob
>>
>> 2018-06-26 17:28 GMT+02:00 Menno van der Woude > >:
>>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> found the culprit: the option 'no internal links' was switched on in
>> NETEDIT, I am unsure how that happened. I only found out by
>> comparing my network to a previous one I built.
>> The 'no internal links' option seems somewhat odd, as vehicles are
>> not displayed on their actual position. I.e., TraCI will then report
>> E2 detectors with vehicles on them, that in the UI are actually not
>> occupied (yet/anymore).
>> Anyway, it works like a charm once again!
>>
>> Greets,
>> Menno
>>
>>
>> On 26-6-2018 15:49, Menno van der Woude wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> in a network I made I am experiencing behaviour of vehicles that
>> seems odd. The vehicles drive normally, but upon reaching a
>> junction, teleport to the other side. Also, while waiting for a
>> traffic light, they seem not to leave any distance between them.
>>
>> I am unaware of having changed any defaults with respect to
>> behaviour. The network was made using a recent development
>> version of NETEDIT, the traffic lights are controlled using
>> TraCI. Is there a setting I can use to correct the described
>> behaviour?
>>
>> Thanks, regards,
>>
>> Menno van der Woude
>>
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Re: [sumo-user] vehicles teleport over junctions

2018-06-27 Thread Menno van der Woude 
Out of curiosity: why could having no internal links in the simulation 
be desirable?


Greets, Menno

On 26-6-2018 19:20, Jakob Erdmann wrote:
When the option --no-internal-links is enabled, streets are made 
artificially longer so that the total route length matches the 
geometrically traveled distance despite "jumping" over intersections. 
The vehicle positions are interpolated to compensate (resulting in 
visually short distances while queued).
Whereas other lane-based objects such as InductionLoops are also placed 
at interpolated positions, the E2 detectors are drawn in the wrong spot 
resulting in the reported mismatch between TraCI and GUI (now tracked at 
https://github.com/eclipse/sumo/issues/4288).


regards,
Jakob

2018-06-26 17:28 GMT+02:00 Menno van der Woude >:


Dear all,

found the culprit: the option 'no internal links' was switched on in
NETEDIT, I am unsure how that happened. I only found out by
comparing my network to a previous one I built.
The 'no internal links' option seems somewhat odd, as vehicles are
not displayed on their actual position. I.e., TraCI will then report
E2 detectors with vehicles on them, that in the UI are actually not
occupied (yet/anymore).
Anyway, it works like a charm once again!

Greets,
Menno


On 26-6-2018 15:49, Menno van der Woude wrote:

Dear all,

in a network I made I am experiencing behaviour of vehicles that
seems odd. The vehicles drive normally, but upon reaching a
junction, teleport to the other side. Also, while waiting for a
traffic light, they seem not to leave any distance between them.

I am unaware of having changed any defaults with respect to
behaviour. The network was made using a recent development
version of NETEDIT, the traffic lights are controlled using
TraCI. Is there a setting I can use to correct the described
behaviour?

Thanks, regards,

Menno van der Woude

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Re: [sumo-user] vehicles teleport over junctions

2018-06-26 Thread Jakob Erdmann 
When the option --no-internal-links is enabled, streets are made
artificially longer so that the total route length matches the
geometrically traveled distance despite "jumping" over intersections. The
vehicle positions are interpolated to compensate (resulting in visually
short distances while queued).
Whereas other lane-based objects such as InductionLoops are also placed at
interpolated positions, the E2 detectors are drawn in the wrong spot
resulting in the reported mismatch between TraCI and GUI (now tracked at
https://github.com/eclipse/sumo/issues/4288).

regards,
Jakob

2018-06-26 17:28 GMT+02:00 Menno van der Woude :

> Dear all,
>
> found the culprit: the option 'no internal links' was switched on in
> NETEDIT, I am unsure how that happened. I only found out by comparing my
> network to a previous one I built.
> The 'no internal links' option seems somewhat odd, as vehicles are not
> displayed on their actual position. I.e., TraCI will then report E2
> detectors with vehicles on them, that in the UI are actually not occupied
> (yet/anymore).
> Anyway, it works like a charm once again!
>
> Greets,
> Menno
>
>
> On 26-6-2018 15:49, Menno van der Woude wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> in a network I made I am experiencing behaviour of vehicles that seems
>> odd. The vehicles drive normally, but upon reaching a junction, teleport to
>> the other side. Also, while waiting for a traffic light, they seem not to
>> leave any distance between them.
>>
>> I am unaware of having changed any defaults with respect to behaviour.
>> The network was made using a recent development version of NETEDIT, the
>> traffic lights are controlled using TraCI. Is there a setting I can use to
>> correct the described behaviour?
>>
>> Thanks, regards,
>>
>> Menno van der Woude
>>
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Re: [sumo-user] vehicles teleport over junctions

2018-06-26 Thread Menno van der Woude 

Dear all,

found the culprit: the option 'no internal links' was switched on in 
NETEDIT, I am unsure how that happened. I only found out by comparing my 
network to a previous one I built.
The 'no internal links' option seems somewhat odd, as vehicles are not 
displayed on their actual position. I.e., TraCI will then report E2 
detectors with vehicles on them, that in the UI are actually not 
occupied (yet/anymore).

Anyway, it works like a charm once again!

Greets,
Menno

On 26-6-2018 15:49, Menno van der Woude wrote:

Dear all,

in a network I made I am experiencing behaviour of vehicles that seems 
odd. The vehicles drive normally, but upon reaching a junction, teleport 
to the other side. Also, while waiting for a traffic light, they seem 
not to leave any distance between them.


I am unaware of having changed any defaults with respect to behaviour. 
The network was made using a recent development version of NETEDIT, the 
traffic lights are controlled using TraCI. Is there a setting I can use 
to correct the described behaviour?


Thanks, regards,

Menno van der Woude

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