Re: Publication "Cultural heritage of astronomical observatories"

2010-10-15 Thread Wolfgang R. Dick
Unfortunately, this book is out of print. In June this year I ordered
it from the publisher (at a price of about 20 Euro), but I got the
answer that it is no longer available.

BR, Wolfgang

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Datum: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:41:30 +1100
Von: "John Pickard" 
An: "Sundial List" 
Betreff: Publication "Cultural heritage of astronomical observatories"

Good afternoon from a very chilly Sydney (where's Spring when you want it?),

The following book may be of interest to list members:

Wolfschmidt, G. (ed) 2009 Cultural heritage of astronomical observatories: From 
astronomical observatories to modern astrophysics (Proceedings of the 
International ICOMOS Symposium in Hamburg, October 14-17, 2008) Monuments and 
Sites series, No. XVIII. Berlin, ICOMOS-Hendrik Bäßler-Verlag, 2009. 378 pp. 
ISBN: 978-3-930388-53-0

You can order it from the ICOMOS Documentation Centre: 
http://www.international.icomos.org/icomos//publications/m&s18.htm

However, despite some looking, I could not find a price mentioned anywhere, and 
it is not a free PDF.

The title page, and table of contents can be seen at 
http://www.math.uni-hamburg.de/spag/ign/stw/icomos221109-inhalt.pdf (5 MB)


Cheers, John

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Publication "Cultural heritage of astronomical observatories"

2010-10-15 Thread John Pickard
Good afternoon from a very chilly Sydney (where's Spring when you want it?),

The following book may be of interest to list members:

Wolfschmidt, G. (ed) 2009 Cultural heritage of astronomical observatories: From 
astronomical observatories to modern astrophysics (Proceedings of the 
International ICOMOS Symposium in Hamburg, October 14-17, 2008) Monuments and 
Sites series, No. XVIII. Berlin, ICOMOS-Hendrik Bäßler-Verlag, 2009. 378 pp. 
ISBN: 978-3-930388-53-0

You can order it from the ICOMOS Documentation Centre: 
http://www.international.icomos.org/icomos//publications/m&s18.htm

However, despite some looking, I could not find a price mentioned anywhere, and 
it is not a free PDF.

The title page, and table of contents can be seen at 
http://www.math.uni-hamburg.de/spag/ign/stw/icomos221109-inhalt.pdf (5 MB)


Cheers, John

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Pictures for Astronomy Day

2010-10-15 Thread clarkkr

Hi everyone,
 This Saturday is Astronomy Day, October 16 2010.  My astronomy club is 
having a solar observing session at a local library.   I am having another one 
of my educational sundial displays again.   I want to add a couple pictures to 
my display.  
 I am looking for an example of a large public bifilar sundial.  I thought 
I saw a picture of one on this list somewhere?
 I have a picture of Thomas Hughes’s Sidereal Sundial from the 2002 NASS 
Conference in Tucson, AZ.  Are there any new pictures of a sundial that tells 
sidereal time?
Thanks in advance,
Ken Clark
Elizabethtown, PA



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RE: rescue me (off topic)

2010-10-15 Thread Tom Kreyche
These topics are well explored in emergency navigation books, such as Harold
Gatty's classic "The Raft Book" and the excellent modern "Emergency
Navigation" by David Burch. And there are many web site about Polynesian
navigation.

You might not be able to pinpoint your location but you can certainly find
your way without access to clocks and other sophisticated instruments.

...Tom Kreyche


-Original Message-
From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On
Behalf Of Frank Evans
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 8:04 AM
To: Sundial
Subject: Re: rescue me (off topic)

  Greetings fellow dialists,
Brent posits: "Suppose I was on an island in the middle of the ocean". A 
Polynesian navigator would know the bearing and distance (not in those 
terms) of the island from his starting point without the aid of any 
instruments. Star risings and settings, wind and swell directions, bird 
sightings, etc. are the key, all formally taught and committed to 
memory. Polynesian navigators who are passengers on modern ships can say 
where they are when asked.
Frank 55N 1W

On 15/10/2010 03:57, Brent wrote:
> I have been thinking about how I could get rescued if I ever got lost
> without anything.
>
> I could determine my latitude as discussed earlier but my longitude
> seems elusive without knowing Greenwich mean time.
>
> However, there are some clues I could give in many circumstances.
> Of utmost importance would be a way to get a message out. If I could
> find a body of water I could send out a message in a bottle, or a
> little toy boat that I could make.
>
> If I was lost in the jungle on a river and sent a message with my
> latitude they could find me easily by following the river upstream to
> my latitude.
>
> Suppose I was on the Eastern edge of a huge lake, if I sent my
> latitude and that clue it would be easy to find me.
>
> Suppose I was on an island in the middle of the ocean. If I knew my
> latitude and was able to say where my last known location was for
> example; "we were sailing to Bermuda from Miami when we sank and then
> I drifted for 15 days". The rescuers would know where to start looking.
> If I had further hints like, there is a large land mass to my north
> and 3 smaller islands to my east they could zero in on my location.
>
> With an accurate latitude anyone could go to Google Earth and follow
> that line and discover a matching location with the clues.
>
> I could also provide clues like, "I seem to be in a flight path as I
> see an airliner flying north to south around 9am and then south to
> north at 6pm every day."
>
> So to get rescued you need at least two things; your latitude and a
> body of water to get the message out. Any other clues like major
> geographic features or man made activities like flight paths and last
> known location would help a great deal.
>
> Of course you also need someone to find your bottle and then someone
> who cares enough to go rescue you.
>
>
>
>
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Re: A giant non-dial for Milton Keynes??

2010-10-15 Thread JOHN DAVIS
Hi Tony et al,
 
The buried sundial is on the BBC website at 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ahistoryoftheworld/objects/Aa1Ir_diS7iBuKens1XJWQ
 
I described it in an article in the BSS Bulletin, 16(ii), p.57 (June 2004).
 
The Manchester Road railway station dial has also been the subject of Bulletin 
articles, by John Wall and Roger Bowling. Full references to anyone 
interested...
 
Regards,
 
John Davis
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Flowton Dials

--- On Fri, 15/10/10, Tony Moss  wrote:


From: Tony Moss 
Subject: A giant non-dial for Milton Keynes??
To: "Sundial Mailing List" 
Date: Friday, 15 October, 2010, 12:45


  Fellow Shadow Watchers,
                                        A BBC Radio 4 news item this 
morning mentioned an unusual sundial excavated from under a house floor 
and promised a picture on the R4 website.  I couldn't find the dial 
described but, in addition to a pic of a brass dial made for Manchester 
railway station, I followed a link to  "Giant Sundials Needs a Home"

Supposedly the 'Giant Sundial' was to be placed in Milton Keynes (52° 
North approx') but the elaborate patterns have never been cast and the 
concrete plinth remains bare.  This suggests it is supposed to be a 
horizontal dial?

Obviously a huge amount of inspiration and effort has gone into this 
production but did someone spot the very low gnomon angle(40° at a 
guess)  in time to prevent installation? Is a revolutionary kind of dial 
I've not met with or just another pretty non-dial?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7535649.stm

This may well be 'old news' to many but it is the first I have heard of it.

Tony Moss
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Re: rescue me (off topic)

2010-10-15 Thread Frank Evans
  Greetings fellow dialists,
Brent posits: "Suppose I was on an island in the middle of the ocean". A 
Polynesian navigator would know the bearing and distance (not in those 
terms) of the island from his starting point without the aid of any 
instruments. Star risings and settings, wind and swell directions, bird 
sightings, etc. are the key, all formally taught and committed to 
memory. Polynesian navigators who are passengers on modern ships can say 
where they are when asked.
Frank 55N 1W

On 15/10/2010 03:57, Brent wrote:
> I have been thinking about how I could get rescued if I ever got lost
> without anything.
>
> I could determine my latitude as discussed earlier but my longitude
> seems elusive without knowing Greenwich mean time.
>
> However, there are some clues I could give in many circumstances.
> Of utmost importance would be a way to get a message out. If I could
> find a body of water I could send out a message in a bottle, or a
> little toy boat that I could make.
>
> If I was lost in the jungle on a river and sent a message with my
> latitude they could find me easily by following the river upstream to
> my latitude.
>
> Suppose I was on the Eastern edge of a huge lake, if I sent my
> latitude and that clue it would be easy to find me.
>
> Suppose I was on an island in the middle of the ocean. If I knew my
> latitude and was able to say where my last known location was for
> example; "we were sailing to Bermuda from Miami when we sank and then
> I drifted for 15 days". The rescuers would know where to start looking.
> If I had further hints like, there is a large land mass to my north
> and 3 smaller islands to my east they could zero in on my location.
>
> With an accurate latitude anyone could go to Google Earth and follow
> that line and discover a matching location with the clues.
>
> I could also provide clues like, "I seem to be in a flight path as I
> see an airliner flying north to south around 9am and then south to
> north at 6pm every day."
>
> So to get rescued you need at least two things; your latitude and a
> body of water to get the message out. Any other clues like major
> geographic features or man made activities like flight paths and last
> known location would help a great deal.
>
> Of course you also need someone to find your bottle and then someone
> who cares enough to go rescue you.
>
>
>
>
> ---
> https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
>


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Not really to do with Sundials, but some good shadows...

2010-10-15 Thread Kevin Karney
Mapping during 600 years anniversary of the astrological tower clock situated 
at Old Town Square in center of Prague.

This was projection onto the front of the church

http://vimeo.com/15749093

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Re: Sad news for the Sundial Community

2010-10-15 Thread Wolfgang R. Dick
Because I would like to include him into the second
edition of the "Biographical Index of Astronomy" (which includes
also sundial makers, see http://books.google.com/books?id=L8r5K_4bdxUC
for the first edition), I ask for his complete name.
The answer was: David L. Gard.

Best regards,
Wolfgang Dick

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Datum: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:47:16 -0700
Von: "Roger Bailey" 
An: "Bill Gottesman" , "Sundial Mailing List" 

Betreff: Re: Sad news for the Sundial Community

Thanks for the note. Here is a link to the ATEN website with some pictures 
of his sundial.
http://atensundials.com/homepage.html  Clip and paste the url text into your 
browser.

Regards, Roger Bailey

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From: "Bill Gottesman" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 6:47 PM
To: "Sundial Mailing List" 
Subject: Sad news for the Sundial Community

>  I learned from JD Gard's website for the ATEN sundials that David
> (Gard?), the inventor of the Aten heliochronometer, has died.
>
> I do not know if the company will still sell the sundial.
>
> I own one of the models, and it is a favorite to show guests.  It is
> readable to better than 1 minute.  I did not know Dave, but I certainly
> admired his originality and skill in manufacturing.
>
> It is worth noting that craftsfolk are mortal, and often their art
> disappears with them.  When I see a dial I like and can afford, I
> generally buy it sooner rather than later.  You never know when someone
> will stop making a dial, whether by choice or not.
>
> -Bill

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A giant non-dial for Milton Keynes??

2010-10-15 Thread Tony Moss
  Fellow Shadow Watchers,
A BBC Radio 4 news item this 
morning mentioned an unusual sundial excavated from under a house floor 
and promised a picture on the R4 website.  I couldn't find the dial 
described but, in addition to a pic of a brass dial made for Manchester 
railway station, I followed a link to  "Giant Sundials Needs a Home"

Supposedly the 'Giant Sundial' was to be placed in Milton Keynes (52° 
North approx') but the elaborate patterns have never been cast and the 
concrete plinth remains bare.  This suggests it is supposed to be a 
horizontal dial?

Obviously a huge amount of inspiration and effort has gone into this 
production but did someone spot the very low gnomon angle(40° at a 
guess)  in time to prevent installation? Is a revolutionary kind of dial 
I've not met with or just another pretty non-dial?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7535649.stm

This may well be 'old news' to many but it is the first I have heard of it.

Tony Moss
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