Sundials of French Alps

2011-08-19 Thread Dariusz Oczki
Dear Diallists

Last days of July I have spent in France searching for sundials in the Queyras 
area.
Below you will find my article (in Polish) about the trip with a bunch of 
photos.

http://gnomonika.pl/news.php?id=55

At that time Michel Lalos, a French sundial enthusiast, was there too so we had 
a very pleasant meeting one day. He was kind enough to take me and my 
girlfriend on a little tour arround the town of Embrun taking us to the best 
sundials of that region.

Regards,

Darek Oczki
52N 21E
Warsaw, Poland

GNOMONIKA.pl
Sundials in Poland
http://gnomonika.pl
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Re: Sundials of French Alps

2011-08-19 Thread Dariusz Oczki
One more thing: 

If anyone wishes to read the text in their own language there is an easy way to 
translate it. Fron now on we have on Gnomonika.pl a set of social links at the 
end of each article - the last one of them lets you translate the page using 
Google Translator. I just hope you will get something resonable.

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Best regards
Darek Oczki
52N 21E
Warsaw, Poland

GNOMONIKA.pl
Sundials in Poland
http://gnomonika.pl
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Re: Fwd: Re: Question on a possible sundial.

2011-08-19 Thread Bill Gottesman


  
  
I agree that it is not likely to be a sundial.  I wonder what
markings are hidden under the flower bowl.  For example, this could
be an anniversary sundial, marking solar noon with a light beam on a
particular date.  Or maybe it is a type of compass aligned with the
celestial pole.  Or maybe a mirror floats in the bowl, and the user
looks down the tube, and their gaze is reflected up towards the pole
star.  It would be nice to know if there are markings under that
flower-pot!
-Bill

On 8/19/2011 3:19 PM, Frans W. Maes wrote:
Hi all,
  
  
  Thanks to the increased attachment size I can post the illustrated
  question of Duncan Meyers to the list, together with my initial
  response. Any additional suggestions regarding the nature of this
  object?
  
  
  Best regards,
  
  Frans Maes
  
  
   Original Message 
  
  Subject: Re: Question on a possible sundial.
  
  Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 08:49:21 -0700
  
  From: Duncan Meyers 
  
  To: f.w.m...@rug.nl
  
  
  Frans,
  
  
  Yes, you are more than welcome to post it to the mailing list and
  see if anyone else knows or has an idea..  My thought when first
  seeing this was that it would allow light into the tube and focus
  the light to a point which would then move along a line and would
  track not only the time but also the date as well. Yes, the tube
  has lenses inside that has a small image when looking through it.
  Kinda like looking through the end of a telescope and you see an
  image but it is really small and far away.
  
  
  I'm part of a solar spectrograph competition to design and build a
  spectrograph and was thinking about using this model as a setup
  design. So the light would pass through the tube and be reflected
  downward into the vertical tube where it would pass through a
  collimeter and then through the grating.
  
  
  But, thank you for your help. I look forward to seeing what your
  members have to say.
  
  
  Best regards,
  
  Duncan Meyers
  
  Connected by MOTOBLUR™ on T-Mobile
  
  
  -Original message-
  
  From: "Frans W. Maes" 
  
  To: Duncan Meyers 
  
  Sent: Fri, Aug 19, 2011 03:14:40 PDT
  
  Subject: Re: Question on a possible sundial.
  
  
  Hello Duncan,
  
  
  It looks sundialish, but I don't think it is. If the tube is
  pointing at Polaris, it could have been part of a pole-style. But
  no ring with hour numbers, parallel to the equator, is present.
  Neither are there numbers on the rim of the flower bowl.
  
  
  In the old days a type of sundial was known as "noon cannon" (see
  attachment for an example). A lens focused the sun's rays on a
  small, loaded cannon at noon, which then fired. So the
  neighbourhood could synchronize their watches and clocks. But then
  it is necessary to adjust the tilt of the lens holder to the sun's
  noon altitude on that day. And I don't see such an adjustment
  here.
  
  
  What else could it have been? Does the tube have lenses at either
  end? Can the tube slide in the tube holder? If it is a monocular,
  one could perhaps observe enlarged flowers with insects on them or
  so. Or if the sun passes the point in the sky at which the tube is
  aiming (which would occur twice a year) a hot spot could set a
  piece of wood, paper or so on fire, or heat a cup of water.
  
  
  That reminds me of a sculpture with a similar function, the 'Solar
  Orbit Transit Station'. See my website, www.fransmaes.nl/sundials
  and choose "Related objects" in the main menu. It is the first
  thumbnail.
  
  
  Does this make any sense? If you like, I could post your question
  to the Sundial Mailing list, a forum of sundialists around the
  world.
  
  
  Best regards,
  
  Frans Maes
  
  
  
  On 17-8-2011 20:20, Duncan Meyers wrote:
  
  

Hi,


I looked through your site and other sites and can't seem to
figure

  
  out what this is. Do you know if it is an exotic sundial that uses
  a
  
  point of light instead of a shadow?
  
  

Duncan Meyers

503-933-6097

  
  
  
  

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