Re: Advice please: Good outdoor surface for painting an analemmatic dial

2013-05-02 Thread Bill Gottesman
I used a paint for concrete on asphalt for an analemmatic about 13 years
ago.  It held up for a few years at least, but then the school repaved the
area.  -Bill G.


On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Tom Kreyche  wrote:

> Search on "Tennis Court Paint" and you will get all kinds of interesting
> info...some advertise minimal surface prep and they are non-skid. Most
> appear to be acrylic. I haven't used any but am considering for a
> schoolyard project as wellTom
>
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> *From: *"rPauli" 
> *To: *sundial@uni-koeln.de
> *Sent: *Thursday, May 2, 2013 12:25:24 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Advice please: Good outdoor surface for painting an
> analemmaticdial
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> Acrylic concrete adheres nicely, takes coloring well.  But it is toxic as
> it is applied, then dries hard, safe and durable.   Any concrete/plaster
> provider should have good advice about products that adhere to asphalt.  My
> local one is  http://www.sbsg.com/concrete/overview/
>
> On 5/2/2013 11:55 AM, gerard sheldon wrote:
>
>  re:  Good outdoor surface for painting an analemmatic dial
>
> I am helping a local school make a "human" sundial, i.e. an analemmatic
> one, and the school is enthusiastic about the idea.  (My daughter is a
> pupil at that school.)  I have been liaising with the art teacher, and
> the suggestion is that one or more students studying art would mark out
> the layout of the dial on the tarmac/asphalt ground, and then paint on it.
>So both a scientific and artistic project.
>
> The difficulty we face is that the tarmac/asphalt surface is quite grainy
> and not good to paint on.  Do you have any advice on how to get a good
> smooth outdoor surface to paint on (and we want the surface to retain the
> paint) ?
>
> Any advice would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Gerard
>
>
>
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Re: globe on the dome of the Gustaviaum

2013-05-02 Thread Roger Bailey
I call sundials like this "Terminator" sundials as they tell time by the 
terminator line between the sunny and dark sides. It is not a sharp line like a 
shadow but still useful for telling time. Orientation is important. The concept 
works well on a cylinder as well as a sphere, as an azimuth sundial on a 
vertical cylinder. See this article on Fer De Vries website quoting from Mac 
Oglesby and Joël Robic.
http://www.de-zonnewijzerkring.nl/art-arch/eng-home-art-07-03.htm
The design is good to wrap around a beer or wine bottle. The beer version, 
starting and ending at the winter solstice, has a male silhouette. The wine 
version, starting and ending at the summer solstice, has a feminine wineglass 
figure. It will give you an opportunity to talk about sundials in a social 
setting. Download the macro and prepare for garden parties. I have given them 
to friends, wrapped around an appropriate bottle, with their birthday noted as 
a red date line.

Cheers,

Roger Bailey


From: Willy Leenders
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 1:02 PM
To: Sundial sundiallist
Subject: globe on the dome of the Gustaviaum


The globe on the dome of the Gustavianum in Uppsala (Sweden) is a sundial.

The shadow of the globe on the globe itself indicates the time.
I want information about that operation as a sundial.


Willy Leenders
Hasselt in Flanders (Belgium)


Visit my website about the sundials in the province of Limburg (Flanders) with 
a section 'worth knowing about sundials' (mostly in Dutch): 
http://www.wijzerweb.be















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Re: globe on the dome of the Gustaviaum

2013-05-02 Thread Claude Hartman


  
  
Interesting 10 and 12

Claude Hartman

On 5/2/2013 1:02 PM, Willy Leenders wrote:
The globe on the dome of
  the Gustavianum in Uppsala
(Sweden) is a
  sundial.
The shadow of the globe
  on the globe itself indicates the time.
I want information
  about that operation as a sundial.
  

  




  Willy
Leenders
  Hasselt in
Flanders (Belgium)
  
  
  Visit my website about the
  sundials in the province of Limburg
  (Flanders) with a section 'worth knowing
  about sundials' (mostly in Dutch): http://www.wijzerweb.be
  

  
  

  
  

  

  

  
  

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Re: Advice please: Good outdoor surface for painting an analemmatic dial

2013-05-02 Thread Tom Kreyche
Search on "Tennis Court Paint" and you will get all kinds of interesting 
info...some advertise minimal surface prep and they are non-skid . Most appear 
to be acrylic.  I haven't used any but am considering for a schoolyard project 
as well Tom 

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From: "rPauli"  
To: sundial@uni-koeln.de 
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 12:25:24 PM 
Subject: Re: Advice please: Good outdoor surface for painting an analemmatic
dial 


Acrylic concrete adheres nicely, takes coloring well.  But it is toxic as it is 
applied, then dries hard, safe and durable.   Any concrete/plaster provider 
should have good advice about products that adhere to asphalt.  My local one is 
 http://www.sbsg.com/concrete/overview/ 

On 5/2/2013 11:55 AM, gerard sheldon wrote: 





re:  Good outdoor surface for painting an analemmatic dial 


I am helping a local school make a "human" sundial, i.e. an analemmatic one, 
and the school is enthusiastic about the idea.  ( My daughter is a pupil at 
that school.)   I have been liaising with the art teacher, and the suggestion 
is that  one or more students studying art would mark out the layout of the 
dial on the tarmac/asphalt ground, and then paint on it.    So both a 
scientific and artistic project. 


The difficulty we face is that the tarmac/asphalt surface is quite grainy and 
not good to paint on.   Do you have any advice on how to get a good smooth 
outdoor surface to paint on (and we want the surface to retain the paint) ?   


Any advice would be appreciated. 


Thanks 


Gerard 





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Re: Advice please: Good outdoor surface for painting an analemmatic dial

2013-05-02 Thread rPauli
Acrylic concrete adheres nicely, takes coloring well.  But it is toxic 
as it is applied, then dries hard, safe and durable.   Any 
concrete/plaster provider should have good advice about products that 
adhere to asphalt.  My local one is http://www.sbsg.com/concrete/overview/


On 5/2/2013 11:55 AM, gerard sheldon wrote:

re:  Good outdoor surface for painting an analemmatic dial

I am helping a local school make a "human" sundial, i.e. an 
analemmatic one, and the school is enthusiastic about the idea.  (My 
daughter is a pupil at that school.) I have been liaising with the art 
teacher, and the suggestion is that one or more students studying art 
would mark out the layout of the dial on the tarmac/asphalt ground, 
and then paint on it.So both a scientific and artistic project.


The difficulty we face is that the tarmac/asphalt surface is quite 
grainy and not good to paint on. Do you have any advice on how to get 
a good smooth outdoor surface to paint on (and we want the surface to 
retain the paint) ?


Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks

Gerard




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Advice please: Good outdoor surface for painting an analemmatic dial

2013-05-02 Thread gerard sheldon
re:  Good outdoor surface for painting an analemmatic dial

I am helping a local school make a "human" sundial, i.e. an analemmatic one, 
and the school is enthusiastic about the idea.  (My daughter is a pupil at that 
school.)  I have been liaising with the art teacher, and the suggestion is that 
one or more students studying art would mark out the layout of the dial on the 
tarmac/asphalt ground, and then paint on it.    So both a scientific and 
artistic project.

The difficulty we face is that the tarmac/asphalt surface is quite grainy and 
not good to paint on.  Do you have any advice on how to get a good smooth 
outdoor surface to paint on (and we want the surface to retain the paint) ?  

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks

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