azimuth lines

2013-08-01 Thread Frank Evans

Greetings, fellow dialists,
Attached is a picture of the dial on a lighthouse in North Shields, 
England (55N 1.5W). It is probably from the eighteenth century and is 
badly eroded. As well as its hour marks it has a series of vertical 
azimuth lines labelled with the points of the compass. These may lie 
between the solstice curves. I am at a loss as to how the lines would 
have worked. There is no sign of a nodus on the gnomon (which looks 
old). Possibly, if there was a date scale associated with the azimuth 
lines, now eroded away, then it would be possible to get the sun's 
bearing from where the time line crosses the azimuth line but that looks 
pretty cumbersome. Any suggestions?

Frank 55N 1W

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Re: azimuth lines

2013-08-01 Thread JOHN DAVIS
Hi Frank et al,

Dials with azimuth lines are rare but not unknown in the UK. Writing from 
memory, there is a rather nice one on Grundisburgh church near me and I believe 
the famous Queens' College, Cambridge, dial also has them amongst all the other 
furniture. There are a few others, I'm sure: didn't Ian Butson restore a wooden 
one?  

The key requirement, of course, is that there has to be a nodus so the gnomon 
on your lighthouse dial can't be original. The dial is in obvious need of 
restoration, or at least conservation. Perhaps a nodus could be added. Once the 
spacings of the azimuth lines have been measured, the trig to calculate the 
nodus position is straigntforwrad.

Regards,

John D

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Dr J Davis
Flowton Dials



 From: Frank Evans 
To: Sundial  
Sent: Thursday, 1 August 2013, 14:03
Subject: azimuth lines
 

Greetings, fellow dialists,
Attached is a picture of the dial on a lighthouse in North Shields, England 
(55N 1.5W). It is probably from the eighteenth century and is badly eroded. As 
well as its hour marks it has a series of vertical azimuth lines labelled with 
the points of the compass. These may lie between the solstice curves. I am at a 
loss as to how the lines would have worked. There is no sign of a nodus on the 
gnomon (which looks old). Possibly, if there was a date scale associated with 
the azimuth lines, now eroded away, then it would be possible to get the sun's 
bearing from where the time line crosses the azimuth line but that looks pretty 
cumbersome. Any suggestions?
Frank 55N 1W


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RE: azimuth lines

2013-08-01 Thread Andrew James
The Queens' College dial certainly has azimuth lines as John wrote.

Frank, is it possible that some feature of the rather nice ornamental and 
unusual gnomon support provides the nodus? Working from the azimuth line 
spacing you should be able to estimate the required height of the nodus and see 
whether this is at all plausible. The "8" support looks too low down the dial 
really, but it may be worth a calculation if only to rule it out!

Regards
Andrew James





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