Re: due east photos

2015-09-24 Thread Brent 
Apparently Muslims have a similar problem when determining which way to 
pray towards Mecca (Qibla).

This non-scientific website gives  a choice of 2 different directions:

https://threesixty360.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/which-direction-is-mecca/

There is more confusion found in the comments at the bottom of that website.

brent



On 9/17/2015 2:05 AM, Richard Mallett wrote:

On 17/09/2015 09:31, Fabio nonvedolora wrote:

well said Jack,
flat Earth and similar are unlikely :-)
globe
Fabio
Fabio Savian
fabio.sav...@nonvedolora.it
www.nonvedolora.eu
Paderno Dugnano, Milano, Ita
45° 34' 10'' N, 9° 10' 9'' E, GMT+1 (DST +2)


The comedian Michael Bentine used to have a show called 'It's a Square 
World' on BBC TV when I was young :-)


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Ancient Astronomy and Astrology in Early Judaism

2015-09-24 Thread Dan-George Uza 
Hello,

This might be of interest to researchers. "Zodiac Calendars in the Dead Sea
Scrolls and Their Reception - Ancient Astronomy and Astrology in Early
Judaism" by Helen Jacobus is a recent scholarly book (2014) about ancient
middle-eastern astronomy which also handles the subject of Greco-Roman
zodiac sundials in chapter 4. The entire work seems very well documented.

You can search for it on Scribd.com

​Regards,​

​Dan Uza
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Re: due east photos

2015-09-24 Thread Bill Gottesman 
Well, if you are going to allow compass directions, then that opens the
door to all loxodromes.  There are an infnite number of loxodromes that
connect two points on a sphere, if you allow loxodrome paths that travel
more than once around the globe!  This gives an infinite number of compass
directions to Mecca.

-Bill

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Brent  wrote:

> I think you can face Mecca from 4 directions:
>
> 1. along great circle shortest direction
> 2. along great circle longest direction
> 3. along constant compass method shortest direction
> 4. along constant compass method longest direction
>
> I wonder if it says in Koran to face Mecca in shortest direction?
>
> brent
>
>
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Re: due east photos

2015-09-24 Thread Brent 

"an infinite number of compass directions to Mecca"

allahu akbar!



.

On 9/24/2015 2:39 PM, Bill Gottesman wrote:
Well, if you are going to allow compass directions, then that opens 
the door to all loxodromes.  There are an infnite number of loxodromes 
that connect two points on a sphere, if you allow loxodrome paths that 
travel more than once around the globe!  This gives an infinite number 
of compass directions to Mecca.


-Bill

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Brent > wrote:


I think you can face Mecca from 4 directions:

1. along great circle shortest direction
2. along great circle longest direction
3. along constant compass method shortest direction
4. along constant compass method longest direction

I wonder if it says in Koran to face Mecca in shortest direction?

brent



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Re: due east photos

2015-09-24 Thread Brent 

I think you can face Mecca from 4 directions:

1. along great circle shortest direction
2. along great circle longest direction
3. along constant compass method shortest direction
4. along constant compass method longest direction

I wonder if it says in Koran to face Mecca in shortest direction?

brent


On 9/24/2015 12:20 PM, Brent wrote:
Apparently Muslims have a similar problem when determining which way 
to pray towards Mecca (Qibla).

This non-scientific website gives  a choice of 2 different directions:

https://threesixty360.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/which-direction-is-mecca/

There is more confusion found in the comments at the bottom of that 
website.


brent



On 9/17/2015 2:05 AM, Richard Mallett wrote:

On 17/09/2015 09:31, Fabio nonvedolora wrote:

well said Jack,
flat Earth and similar are unlikely :-)
globe
Fabio
Fabio Savian
fabio.sav...@nonvedolora.it
www.nonvedolora.eu
Paderno Dugnano, Milano, Ita
45° 34' 10'' N, 9° 10' 9'' E, GMT+1 (DST +2)


The comedian Michael Bentine used to have a show called 'It's a 
Square World' on BBC TV when I was young :-)


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RE: due east photos

2015-09-24 Thread Jack Aubert 
Why not?  Richard Feynman argued that that a quantum mechanical particle can
take an infinite number of paths between two points to explain the wave
function.  Or something like that.  I don’t actually understand that stuff
myself. Maybe the direction to Mecca should be a wave function.  

 

https://www.quora.com/What-is-Richard-Feynmans-sum-over-paths-approach-to-qu
antum-mechanics

 

Jack

 

From: sundial [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On Behalf Of Brent
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:58 PM
To: Bill Gottesman
Cc: Sundials List
Subject: Re: due east photos

 

"an infinite number of compass directions to Mecca"

allahu akbar!



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On 9/24/2015 2:39 PM, Bill Gottesman wrote:

Well, if you are going to allow compass directions, then that opens the door
to all loxodromes.  There are an infnite number of loxodromes that connect
two points on a sphere, if you allow loxodrome paths that travel more than
once around the globe!  This gives an infinite number of compass directions
to Mecca. 

 

-Bill

 

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Brent  wrote:

I think you can face Mecca from 4 directions:

1. along great circle shortest direction
2. along great circle longest direction
3. along constant compass method shortest direction
4. along constant compass method longest direction

I wonder if it says in Koran to face Mecca in shortest direction?

brent 

 



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2015-09-24 Thread illustratingshadows via sundial 
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as a student of world war II methods of navigation, what about "pressure 
pattern navigation". A fixed heading gets you there even if you wander all over 
the sky.
Just thought I would confuse the issue.
Simon www.illustratingshadows.comPhoenix, AZ



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 Original message 
From: Brent  
Date: 09/24/2015  14:58  (GMT-07:00) 
To: Bill Gottesman  
Cc: Sundials List  
Subject: Re: due east photos 


"an infinite number of compass
  directions to Mecca"

  

  allahu akbar!

  

  

  

  .

  

  On 9/24/2015 2:39 PM, Bill Gottesman wrote:



  Well, if you are going to allow compass directions,
then that opens the door to all loxodromes.  There are an
infnite number of loxodromes that connect two points on a
sphere, if you allow loxodrome paths that travel more than once
around the globe!  This gives an infinite number of compass
directions to Mecca.



-Bill

  

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 4:11 PM,
  Brent 
  wrote:

  

  I think you can face Mecca from 4 directions:



1. along great circle shortest direction

2. along great circle longest direction

3. along constant compass method shortest direction

4. along constant compass method longest direction



I wonder if it says in Koran to face Mecca in
shortest direction?



brent

  

  

  

  

  

  



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