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2020-01-01 Thread Kovacevic Zlatko via sundial
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 Dear experts of sundials,13 years ago I used these instructions:Analemmatic 
sundials: How to build one and why they work


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Analemmatic sundials: How to build one and why they work

June 2000 Introduction Imagine that you have just got the latest in digital 
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.  for setting up the first horizontal anemmatic sundial in Croatia. I made 
the calculation using the MS Excell spreadsheet.
As a volunteer to date I have produced more than 20 such sundials. I want to 
hear your expert comments is making and using such a sundial correct?  
The longitude of Virovitica is 17 deg. 23 min. E. (9 min and 32s east of the15 
meridian - CET) 

Example to 
illustrate:https://astro.troja.mff.cuni.cz/mira/sh/sh.php?evc=HR_VP_25

With many sunny noon best wishes for the new 2020 year from Zlatko Kovacevic 
(Virovitica, Croatia)

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Happy New Year from High Noon Grieskirchen/Austria

2020-01-01 Thread kepleruhr


 

Kurt

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Re: Can anyone help me to contact Paul Ratto ?

2020-01-01 Thread Frank King
Dear Isabella,

As I expected, there are plenty of list members happy to offer advice.  You
have to be a bit circumspect when reading some of it!

Willy Leenders is right to comment unfavourable on the drawing you find at:

 http://www.sunclocks.com

The drawing and the wording round it are very misleading both as to how the
sundial is to be used and how it is set out.  Importantly, the slabs on the
date scale are badly represented.  I cannot think why Douglas Hunt hasn't
changed this page.

The good news is that the two rings of hour numbers on properly set out
Douglas Hunt Sundials correctly indicate local sun times on the relevant
reference meridians.  This is usually within 15 minutes of clock time and
within 5 minutes during the summer. They do not indicate clock time
itself.  The outer ring is for winter time and the inner ring is for summer
time.

As I mentioned, there are really two separate but superimposed analemmatic
sundials.  Imagine the following steps:

  1. Lay out a conventional analemmatic sundial where the single ring of
hour numbers is set out on an ellipse whose major axis is 5m across.

  2. Now overlay this with an identical sundial scaled down 20% so the
major axis is only 4m across.  Arrange for the mid-points of the two date
scales to be coincident.  These are the two equinoctial points.

 3. The two rings of hour numbers will be separate but there will be a
horrible jumble along the date line.

 4. Here is the cunning bit: you discard the *summer half* (equinox to the
summer solstice) of the longer date line and you discard the *winter half*
of the shorter date line.  *The equinoctial point is no longer in the
middle of the date line.*  The summer half is short and uses the inner ring
(this is when shadows are short because the sun is high) and the winter
half is long and uses the outer ring.

With a single exception, everything is gnomonically sound.  The one
slightly doubtful feature is that the change-overs from winter time to
summer time and vice versa are deemed to be at the equinoxes when, in
reality, the change-over dates are dictated by legislation rather than by
mathematics.  I don't regard this as a serious problem.  Blame legislators!!

The important thing for your daughter to note is that designing and
constructing this sundial is exactly equivalent to designing a conventional
single-ring analemmatic sundial, scaling it, putting both dials together
and then selectively throwing away the bits you don't need.

Since you live in North America, I would use Roger Bailey as your principal
source of advice!!  He is very good at practicalities.

A Happy New Year
Frank
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