Re: U.S. Senate approves bill to make daylight saving time permanent
And yes, the central european time zone is huge by 33°, which is more than double the suggested width. Better* split the zone. And more revolutionary*: Cancel time zones, use UTC for global adjustments (intl. transport, communication), and LAT for local appointments. Deviations by ground based travel distances are neglibigle. Or automatically are considered by smartphones/GPS driven devices - "not rocket science". *With respect to >10^6 years in human evolution synched to sun light variation. Kurt Jack Aubert schrieb am Mi., 16. März 2022, 16:32: > Not exactly. In Paris, lunch time is at 1:00. That is very close to > solar noon. Paris is just a few degrees east of London. > > Maybe lunch time is at solar transit. > > > > *From:* sundial *On Behalf Of *Kurt Niel > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 16, 2022 7:18 AM > *To:* Steve Lelievre > *Cc:* Sundial List > *Subject:* Re: U.S. Senate approves bill to make daylight saving time > permanent > > > > Noon is noon while the sun is up in the sky - over and out. > > > > Kurt Niel schrieb am Mi., 16. März 2022, 12:12: > > It is still a shame, that DST is really that prominent. I stay in Europe > and hope we can get rid of it - dammned DST. > > > > I am still very emotional about it and see it as one of many homan made > mistakes. > > > > Kurt > > > > Steve Lelievre schrieb am Di., 15. März > 2022, 22:51: > > > It seems the USA may be getting ready to abolish seasonal clock > changes. The proposal has just passed in the Senate but still has to be > accepted by the House of Representatives, so we can't celebrate yet. ( > > https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-that-would-make-daylight-savings-time-permanent-2023-2022-03-15/ > ) > > If it happens, Canada would quickly follow. In fact, here in British > Columbia it's already in law that we will switch to permanent DST once > Washington (state), Oregon and California have switched. The EU is > already on the same path but things have got bogged down with some > member countries yet to decide which timezone to adopt. EU-wide > preparations were further delayed due to the pandemic ( > > https://www.thelocal.it/20211029/clocks-to-go-back-in-italy-despite-eu-deal-on-scrapping-hour-change/ > ). > > I would have preferred permanent Standard Time over permanent > Daylight-saving Time but, even so, I hope the plans proceed. It will > certainly simplify the my designs for Civil Time sundials and Equation > Of Time signage. > > Cheers, Steve > > --- > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > > --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
RE: U.S. Senate approves bill to make daylight saving time permanent
Not exactly. In Paris, lunch time is at 1:00. That is very close to solar noon. Paris is just a few degrees east of London. Maybe lunch time is at solar transit. From: sundial On Behalf Of Kurt Niel Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 7:18 AM To: Steve Lelievre Cc: Sundial List Subject: Re: U.S. Senate approves bill to make daylight saving time permanent Noon is noon while the sun is up in the sky - over and out. Kurt Niel mailto:kepler...@gmail.com> > schrieb am Mi., 16. März 2022, 12:12: It is still a shame, that DST is really that prominent. I stay in Europe and hope we can get rid of it - dammned DST. I am still very emotional about it and see it as one of many homan made mistakes. Kurt Steve Lelievre mailto:steve.lelievre.can...@gmail.com> > schrieb am Di., 15. März 2022, 22:51: It seems the USA may be getting ready to abolish seasonal clock changes. The proposal has just passed in the Senate but still has to be accepted by the House of Representatives, so we can't celebrate yet. ( https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-that-would-make-daylight-savings-time-permanent-2023-2022-03-15/ ) If it happens, Canada would quickly follow. In fact, here in British Columbia it's already in law that we will switch to permanent DST once Washington (state), Oregon and California have switched. The EU is already on the same path but things have got bogged down with some member countries yet to decide which timezone to adopt. EU-wide preparations were further delayed due to the pandemic ( https://www.thelocal.it/20211029/clocks-to-go-back-in-italy-despite-eu-deal-on-scrapping-hour-change/ ). I would have preferred permanent Standard Time over permanent Daylight-saving Time but, even so, I hope the plans proceed. It will certainly simplify the my designs for Civil Time sundials and Equation Of Time signage. Cheers, Steve --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: U.S. Senate approves bill to make daylight saving time permanent
According to opinion polls, Romanians are about 50%-50% for permanent DST vs. permanent standard time, but the permanent DST crowd seems to be more vocal. Legislation is bogged down right now but in the current form it appears to favour permanent standard time. Dan Uza On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 1:13 PM Kurt Niel wrote: > It is still a shame, that DST is really that prominent. I stay in Europe > and hope we can get rid of it - dammned DST. > > I am still very emotional about it and see it as one of many homan made > mistakes. > > Kurt > > Steve Lelievre schrieb am Di., 15. März > 2022, 22:51: > >> >> It seems the USA may be getting ready to abolish seasonal clock >> changes. The proposal has just passed in the Senate but still has to be >> accepted by the House of Representatives, so we can't celebrate yet. ( >> >> https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-that-would-make-daylight-savings-time-permanent-2023-2022-03-15/ >> ) >> >> If it happens, Canada would quickly follow. In fact, here in British >> Columbia it's already in law that we will switch to permanent DST once >> Washington (state), Oregon and California have switched. The EU is >> already on the same path but things have got bogged down with some >> member countries yet to decide which timezone to adopt. EU-wide >> preparations were further delayed due to the pandemic ( >> >> https://www.thelocal.it/20211029/clocks-to-go-back-in-italy-despite-eu-deal-on-scrapping-hour-change/ >> ). >> >> I would have preferred permanent Standard Time over permanent >> Daylight-saving Time but, even so, I hope the plans proceed. It will >> certainly simplify the my designs for Civil Time sundials and Equation >> Of Time signage. >> >> Cheers, Steve >> >> --- >> https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial >> >> --- > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > > -- Dan-George Uza --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: U.S. Senate approves bill to make daylight saving time permanent
Noon is noon while the sun is up in the sky - over and out. Kurt Niel schrieb am Mi., 16. März 2022, 12:12: > It is still a shame, that DST is really that prominent. I stay in Europe > and hope we can get rid of it - dammned DST. > > I am still very emotional about it and see it as one of many homan made > mistakes. > > Kurt > > Steve Lelievre schrieb am Di., 15. März > 2022, 22:51: > >> >> It seems the USA may be getting ready to abolish seasonal clock >> changes. The proposal has just passed in the Senate but still has to be >> accepted by the House of Representatives, so we can't celebrate yet. ( >> >> https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-that-would-make-daylight-savings-time-permanent-2023-2022-03-15/ >> ) >> >> If it happens, Canada would quickly follow. In fact, here in British >> Columbia it's already in law that we will switch to permanent DST once >> Washington (state), Oregon and California have switched. The EU is >> already on the same path but things have got bogged down with some >> member countries yet to decide which timezone to adopt. EU-wide >> preparations were further delayed due to the pandemic ( >> >> https://www.thelocal.it/20211029/clocks-to-go-back-in-italy-despite-eu-deal-on-scrapping-hour-change/ >> ). >> >> I would have preferred permanent Standard Time over permanent >> Daylight-saving Time but, even so, I hope the plans proceed. It will >> certainly simplify the my designs for Civil Time sundials and Equation >> Of Time signage. >> >> Cheers, Steve >> >> --- >> https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial >> >> --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: U.S. Senate approves bill to make daylight saving time permanent
It is still a shame, that DST is really that prominent. I stay in Europe and hope we can get rid of it - dammned DST. I am still very emotional about it and see it as one of many homan made mistakes. Kurt Steve Lelievre schrieb am Di., 15. März 2022, 22:51: > > It seems the USA may be getting ready to abolish seasonal clock > changes. The proposal has just passed in the Senate but still has to be > accepted by the House of Representatives, so we can't celebrate yet. ( > > https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-that-would-make-daylight-savings-time-permanent-2023-2022-03-15/ > ) > > If it happens, Canada would quickly follow. In fact, here in British > Columbia it's already in law that we will switch to permanent DST once > Washington (state), Oregon and California have switched. The EU is > already on the same path but things have got bogged down with some > member countries yet to decide which timezone to adopt. EU-wide > preparations were further delayed due to the pandemic ( > > https://www.thelocal.it/20211029/clocks-to-go-back-in-italy-despite-eu-deal-on-scrapping-hour-change/ > ). > > I would have preferred permanent Standard Time over permanent > Daylight-saving Time but, even so, I hope the plans proceed. It will > certainly simplify the my designs for Civil Time sundials and Equation > Of Time signage. > > Cheers, Steve > > --- > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > > --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
