A tad off topic....?

1999-03-10 Thread Patrick Powers

To all,

Hmmm, hope I don't  incur too much wrath over another moon question but I
heard the other day that Feb 1865 is the only month in recorded history not
to have a full moon (and hence be the only month in which a moon dial could
not be used on its day of greatest accuracy - there; I got back on
topic!!).

It seems odd - is it to be believed do you think?

Patrick


Re: A tad off topic....?

1999-03-12 Thread Patrick Powers

> Jim Cobb wroteThe following are the years from 1800 to 2100 in which
February has no
full moon.  This is taken from Meeus's book.

180919152018
184719342037
186619612067
188519992094<

Wonderful - that sounds like a most interesting book.  Your reply got me
interested to see what else I could find and I found the Moon Calendar web
page (it's intended for schools and isn't desperately accurate !) but it
seems to work well enough to demonstrate the correctness of the above -
well, the ones I have checked anyway:  Whilst it's good to use to check
dates it's a bit tedious to use to find the dates in the first place
though.

http://www.ameritech.net/users/paulcarlisle/MoonCalendar.html

Thanks again and to all who have commented 

Patrick


Re: A tad off topic....?

1999-03-10 Thread PsykoKidd

This can't be true since February 1999 also didn't have a full moon.  In
addition since both the calander and the lunar cycle are periodic there must
be repetition at some point.

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Re: A tad off topic....?

1999-03-11 Thread Jim_Cobb

Jean Meeus's book "Mathematical Astronomy Morsels"

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0943396514/o/qid=921164695/sr=2-1/002-5697572-2293064

lists months over a period of about two hundred years which are
missing a lunar phase.  I believe it lists 1961 as the previous year
(before this one) without a February Full moon; it lists several
others.  I don't have this book handy right now.  I'll send more info
later...  If you have the book, it's in the chapter titled something
like "months with five lunar phases."  I believe it's the last chapter
of the first section of the book.

Jim
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> This can't be true since February 1999 also didn't have a full moon.  In
> addition since both the calander and the lunar cycle are periodic there must
> be repetition at some point.
> 
> Previous Message:
> < 
> Hmmm, hope I don't  incur too much wrath over another moon question but I
> heard the other day that Feb 1865 is the only month in recorded history not
> to have a full moon (and hence be the only month in which a moon dial could
> not be used on its day of greatest accuracy - there; I got back on
> topic!!).
> 
> It seems odd - is it to be believed do you think?>>


Re: A tad off topic....?

1999-03-12 Thread Jim_Cobb

The following are the years from 1800 to 2100 in which February has no
full moon.  This is taken from Meeus's book.

180919152018
184719342037
186619612067
188519992094

Jim
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> Jean Meeus's book "Mathematical Astronomy Morsels"
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0943396514/o/qid=921164695/sr=2-1/002-
5697572-2293064
> 
> lists months over a period of about two hundred years which are
> missing a lunar phase.  I believe it lists 1961 as the previous year
> (before this one) without a February Full moon; it lists several
> others.  I don't have this book handy right now.  I'll send more info
> later...  If you have the book, it's in the chapter titled something
> like "months with five lunar phases."  I believe it's the last chapter
> of the first section of the book.
> 
> Jim


Fwd: Re: A tad off topic....?

1999-03-12 Thread Mark Wrigley

Not quite true.
Last month Australia had a full moon at about 2am on Feb 1.
In Europe it was still January.


>From: Jim_Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:44:47 -0700
>
>The following are the years from 1800 to 2100 in which February has no
>full moon.  This is taken from Meeus's book.
>
>   180919152018
>   184719342037
>   186619612067
>   188519992094
>
>Jim
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>| Jim Cobb  | 540 Arapeen Dr. #100 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]  |
>| Parametric| Salt Lake City, UT   | (801)-588-4632 |
>|  Technology Corp. |   84108-1202 | Fax (801)-588-4650 |
> --- -- 
>All history is but a romance, unless it is studied as an example.
>   -- George Croly
>
>> Jean Meeus's book "Mathematical Astronomy Morsels"
>> 
>> 
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0943396514/o/qid=921164695/sr=2-1/002-
>5697572-2293064
>> 
>> lists months over a period of about two hundred years which are
>> missing a lunar phase.  I believe it lists 1961 as the previous year
>> (before this one) without a February Full moon; it lists several
>> others.  I don't have this book handy right now.  I'll send more info
>> later...  If you have the book, it's in the chapter titled something
>> like "months with five lunar phases."  I believe it's the last 
chapter
>> of the first section of the book.
>> 
>> Jim
>

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Re: Fwd: Re: A tad off topic....?

1999-03-12 Thread Jim_Cobb

"Mark Wrigley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not quite true.
> Last month Australia had a full moon at about 2am on Feb 1.
> In Europe it was still January.

Quite so.  Meeus (careful calculator that he is) explicitly notes his
use of UT (and the dependence of such a calculation on the time zone).
The fault is mine for not propagating that bit of information.

Jim
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