Re: Mounting Sundials...securely

2017-05-17 Thread Frank King
Dear Roderick,

Bill Gottesman notes the Tony Moss method of
securing sundials to pedestals.

This certainly works but it doesn't stop
anyone with a hammer and a cold chisel
doing serious damage in an attempt to
steal the sundial.

Now take a look at this:

http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/keep-your-eyes-peeled-plea-after-antique-sundial-st
olen-from-blickling-hall-near-aylsham-1-3319691

You will see two photographs taken in
the grounds of Blickling Hall, U.K.

The first photograph shows a damaged
pedestal but with the dial plate still
in position.  This dial was secured in
a Tony Moss fashion and the thieves
damaged the pedestal but failed to
take the sundial.

The second photograph shows what
happened next.  The thieves simply
walked off with the entire pedestal.

The pedestal was 18th century and
had a much higher value than the
sundial (a modern replacement).

It would have been much better to
have had a simple lift-off sundial
and thereby saved the pedestal.

   OK, so what do you do?

I have come to the view that
sundials on pedestals or plinths
in public places are simply too
vulnerable to countenance.  You
either settle for an analemmatic
sundial on the ground or you have
a wall dial sufficiently high up
that it is hard to get at.

   BUT there is a third way...

You have a plinth and you want
a sundial.  I would have a nice
design which was printed on
vinyl and stuck to a prepared
surface on the plinth.  The
replacement cost is about $5
and the scrap value is zero.

   What about the gnomon?

You design the dial for a rod
gnomon but don't actually
provide a rod.  You drill
a hole through the Vinyl and
the supporting brickwork and
arrange for it to be polar
oriented.

You insert a simple piece of
hollow studding and invite
users to put a ball-pint pen
in the hole.

Vinyl is commonly used for
advertisements on buses and
seems to tolerate wind, rain,
snow, ice and loose stones.
The design life is about five
years, or longer than the mean
time between thefts!

Your next challenge will be
that someone will steal the
plaque but let's deal with
one problem at a time.

Frank King
Cambridge, U.K.

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Re: Mounting Sundials...securely

2017-05-16 Thread Bill Gottesman
Tony Moss described a secure and permanent mounting method using bolts
permanently fixed to the underside of the dial.  The dial is then set in
mortar atop the pedestal, and the bolts become permanently fixed in the
mortar.  Lord knows how this could be removed later.

Another method involved using a silicone adhesive to fix the dial to the
pedestal (no bolts).  Use cardboard spacers to ensure an 1/8" gap from the
pedestal surface.  If it ever needed to be removed, it cold be separated
from the pedestal by cutting under the dial with a flexible hacksaw blade.

-Bill

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 5:19 PM, rodwall1...@gmail.com <
rodwall1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> In the Ranelagh Estate at Mount Eliza Victoria 3930 Australia. There is a
> memorial to John Thomas Smith in Ranelagh drive. The memorial was
> surmounted by a sundial. It was there as late as 2004. It was removed by
> unknown people several times and was replaced by the shire. But the shire
> eventually gave up as the sundial could not be adequately secured.
>
> Question, does anyone know of a way to adequately secure a sundial on the
> following memorial?
>
> http://monumentaustralia.org.au/themes/people/settlement/
> display/32753-john-thomas-smith
>
> It is such a shame that we all can't enjoy a sundial. Without someone
> thinking that they should have it for themselves only.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Roderick Wall.
>
>
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Mounting Sundials...securely

2017-05-16 Thread rodwall1...@gmail.com
Hi all,
In the Ranelagh Estate at Mount Eliza Victoria 3930 Australia. There is a 
memorial to John Thomas Smith in Ranelagh drive. The memorial was surmounted by 
a sundial. It was there as late as 2004. It was removed by unknown people 
several times and was replaced by the shire. But the shire eventually gave up 
as the sundial could not be adequately secured.

Question, does anyone know of a way to adequately secure a sundial on the 
following memorial?

http://monumentaustralia.org.au/themes/people/settlement/display/32753-john-thomas-smith

It is such a shame that we all can't enjoy a sundial. Without someone thinking 
that they should have it for themselves only.

Thanks,

Roderick Wall.

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