Re: Porcelain Sundial Faces
Hi Thierry: Dave and I have a special section in the SGS website on Mosaic Sundials (including ceramic dials) in the SGS Image Archive. We have posted photos of all known ceramic/mosaic dials. There aren't very many. We only have 12 of them. I'm sure there must be more, we just haven't located them yet. You can see them at: http://advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/sundials_GMD.html John - Original Message - From: Thierry van Steenberghe To: John Carmichael Cc: Sundial List Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 2:17 AM Subject: Re: Porcelain Sundial Faces John Carmichael wrote: Hello all: I've been investigating the best and most durable materials for the sundial faces of my sundial cupola design. I've discovered this: 1. Even the best enamel paints chip, wear off and fade. 2. Baked powder coat paints are much more durable but you can not easily paint more than one color or a design on top of another color. You can not overglaze, (put another layer of powdercoat over a base layer). 3. Porcelain has a great advantage in that it can be overglazed with different colors of vitreous paints and refired. So porcelain painting is similar to glass painting in that you can paint it with a permanent overglaze of different colored paints that do not fade, chip or flake off. It's practically weather-proof! Many old clock faces were made on painted porcelain for these very good reasons. There are companies who will paint and fire your sundial design on porcelain. They can make stencils from your design drawings or they can paint by hand. I even found one company that has a photographic technique of applying paint to porcelain. (and it's here in Tucson!) Have any of you ever seen a painted porcelain sundial?Yes: a friend of mine once offered me a reproduction of an ancient ceramic tiles sundial, and he himself made at least two of them which are on walls in Spain. There also happens to be one close to where I live, here in Brussels, Belgium.(I might be able to find back pictures).I also remember to have seen at least one on the 'Shadows' site and some others but I can't remember where: probably looking up sundials directories would yield several interesting examples.Cheers,Thierry-- __Thierry van SteenbergheBruxelles / Belgium__ Here are a couple of good websites about porcelain painting (also known as "china painting"). http://www.china-painting-list.com/fullsrch.html http://www.porcelainpainters.com/ http://www.porcelain-industries.com/porcelain-industries/porcelain-industries.htm John L. CarmichaelSundial Sculptures925 E. Foothills Dr.Tucson AZ 85718-4716USATel: 520-6961709Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Websites:Sundial Sculptures: http://www.sundialsculptures.comStained Glass Sundials: http://www.stainedglasssundials.com
Re: Porcelain Sundial Faces
uropean firm called Vitramet who arranged for the enamelling to be done in Mexico - a very large furnace was needed!The story of the dials is in the Bulletin of the British Sundial Society, September 2004.Regards,JohnJohn Carmichael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello all: I've been investigating the best and most durable materials for the sundial faces of my sundial cupola design. I've discovered this: 1. Even the best enamel paints chip, wear off and fade. 2. Baked powder coat paints are much more durable but you can not easily paint more than one color or a design on top of another color. You can not overglaze, (put another layer of powdercoat over a base layer). 3. Porcelain has a great advantage in that it can be overglazed with different colors of vitreous paints and refired. So porcelain painting is similar to glass painting in that you can paint it with a permanent overglaze of different colored paints that do not fade, chip or flake off. It's practically weather-proof! Many old clock faces were made on painted porcelain for these very good reasons. There are companies who will paint and fire your sundial design on porcelain. They can make stencils from your design drawings or they can paint by hand. I even found one company that has a photographic technique of applying paint to porcelain. (and it's here in Tucson!) Have any of you ever seen a painted porcelain sundial? Here are a couple of good websites about porcelain painting (also known as "china painting"). http://www.china-painting-list.com/fullsrch.html http://www.porcelainpainters.com/ http://www.porcelain-industries.com/porcelain-industries/porcelain-industries.htm John L. CarmichaelSundial Sculptures925 E. Foothills Dr.Tucson AZ 85718-4716USATel: 520-6961709Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Websites:Sundial Sculptures: http://www.sundialsculptures.comStained Glass Sundials: http://www.stainedglasssundials.comDr J DavisFlowton Dials
Re: Porcelain Sundial Faces
John Carmichael wrote: Hello all: I've been investigating the best and most durable materials for the sundial faces of my sundial cupola design. I've discovered this: 1. Even the best enamel paints chip, wear off and fade. 2. Baked powder coat paints are much more durable but you can not easily paint more than one color or a design on top of another color. You can not overglaze, (put another layer of powdercoat over a base layer). 3. Porcelain has a great advantage in that it can be overglazed with different colors of vitreous paints and refired. So porcelain painting is similar to glass painting in that you can paint it with a permanent overglaze of different colored paints that do not fade, chip or flake off. It's practically weather-proof! Many old clock faces were made on painted porcelain for these very good reasons. There are companies who will paint and fire your sundial design on porcelain. They can make stencils from your design drawings or they can paint by hand. I even found one company that has a photographic technique of applying paint to porcelain. (and it's here in Tucson!) Have any of you ever seen a painted porcelain sundial? Yes: a friend of mine once offered me a reproduction of an ancient ceramic tiles sundial, and he himself made at least two of them which are on walls in Spain. There also happens to be one close to where I live, here in Brussels, Belgium. (I might be able to find back pictures). I also remember to have seen at least one on the 'Shadows' site and some others but I can't remember where: probably looking up sundials directories would yield several interesting examples. Cheers, Thierry -- tvs - sign __ Thierry van Steenberghe Bruxelles / Belgium __ Here are a couple of good websites about porcelain painting (also known as "china painting"). http://www.china-painting-list.com/fullsrch.html http://www.porcelainpainters.com/ http://www.porcelain-industries.com/porcelain-industries/porcelain-industries.htm John L. Carmichael Sundial Sculptures 925 E. Foothills Dr. Tucson AZ 85718-4716 USA Tel: 520-6961709 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Websites: Sundial Sculptures: http://www.sundialsculptures.com Stained Glass Sundials: http://www.stainedglasssundials.com -
Porcelain Sundial Faces
Hello all: I've been investigating the best and most durable materials for the sundial faces of my sundial cupola design. I've discovered this: 1. Even the best enamel paints chip, wear off and fade. 2. Baked powder coat paints are much more durable but you can not easily paint more than one color or a design on top of another color. You can not overglaze, (put another layer of powdercoat over a base layer). 3. Porcelain has a great advantage in that it can be overglazed with different colors of vitreous paints and refired. So porcelain painting is similar to glass painting in that you can paint it with a permanent overglaze of different colored paints that do not fade, chip or flake off. It's practically weather-proof! Many old clock faces were made on painted porcelain for these very good reasons. There are companies who will paint and fire your sundial design on porcelain. They can make stencils from your design drawings or they can paint by hand. I even found one company that has a photographic technique of applying paint to porcelain. (and it's here in Tucson!) Have any of you ever seen a painted porcelain sundial? Here are a couple of good websites about porcelain painting (also known as "china painting"). http://www.china-painting-list.com/fullsrch.html http://www.porcelainpainters.com/ http://www.porcelain-industries.com/porcelain-industries/porcelain-industries.htm John L. CarmichaelSundial Sculptures925 E. Foothills Dr.Tucson AZ 85718-4716USATel: 520-6961709Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Websites:Sundial Sculptures: http://www.sundialsculptures.comStained Glass Sundials: http://www.stainedglasssundials.com
