Re: high dials

2005-03-20 Thread tony moss

Frank Evens wrote:

>glass pictures are too high up to be understood. The alternative explanation
>is that the work was done "to the greater glory of God" as only he could see
>it.

...which brings to mind the phrase:

"...too heavenly-minded to be any earthly use!"  ;-)

Tony Moss.
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Re: high dials

2005-03-21 Thread John Carmichael


trees, or hills).

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From: "Frank Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Sundial" 
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:43 AM
Subject: high dials



Greetings, fellow dialists,
Patrick Powers comes to the defence of Escomb dial as a readable timepiece
but of course in that case why put it as high as six metres up in the 
first

place. There is plenty of room below. I fancy the puzzle remains.

As to medieval buildings not being linear, from memory nineteenth century
Truro cathedral has a bend in it. Still, it was designed by a medievalist.
Frank 55N 1W

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Re: high dials

2005-03-21 Thread John Foad

This correspondence reminds me of unreadable dials I have encountered and
wondered about, though on a far smaller scale.  For example SRNO 1958 at
Weston, Notts, is a nice horizontal of 1694, but it is mounted on a pillar
in the churchyard (not near the church) at a height of nearly 6 feet, and
who could use that to set their clocks or watches?  And a well delineated
reclining horizontal on the interior sill of a south window in Holy Trinity
Dartford, Kent, is 7 feet above the floor!  This one is admittedly a
memorial, but it still seems odd to put it where you can only read it with a
step ladder.

I suppose we have to accept that sundials have often been seen as a
"feature" rather than things useful in their own right.




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Re: high dials

2005-03-21 Thread The Shaws


in the churchyard (not near the church) at a height of nearly 6 feet,>>

I think that these dials on high pillars, there are lots of them, were meant to 
be read whilst on horseback.

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RE: high dials

2005-03-22 Thread Andrew James

There is a moderate sized brass South facing sundial about 25 feet up at
the top of a stair turret at Axbridge church, Somerset. I've always
wondered how it was to be read - unless you could climb out onto the
roof and peer over the edge. But it wouldn't be much use for setting the
clock, either.

Unless of course, following Mike Shaw's suggestion, horses were MUCH,
MUCH bigger at the start of the 19th century - or perhaps the then
Squire had a personal elephant with a really spectacular howdah? ;-)

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Re: high dials

2005-03-26 Thread Mike Cowham



Dear Frank and All,
    There seem to be many high dials 
around.  One in particular is at Dunchurch where we had a couple of 
Conferences a few years ago.  Did anyone actually see it?  It is, I 
think, a scratch dial and is right at the top of the tower.  Perhaps it was 
put there for the pigeons ;-)  I have some pictures if anyone is 
interested.
Mike Cowham,
Cambridge.



Re: Re: high dials

2005-03-21 Thread david . pawley

> Message date : Mar 21 2005, 05:43 PM> From : "The Shaws" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To : "John Foad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Sundial" > Copy to : > Subject : Re: high dials> <> in the churchyard (not near the church) at a height of nearly 6 feet,>>> > I think that these dials on high pillars, there are lots of them, were meant to be read whilst on horseback.> > -> > Whatever you WanadooThis email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more here


Re: Re: high dials

2005-03-22 Thread Mario Arnaldi



Hi, 
 
as you know my researche is faced on medieval
sundials, and usually I find them almost at eye hight, but sometime I found
many very high on the wall.
In some case I may know why. One example for all:
in Piacenza (Italy) there is a magnificent sundial on the cathedral, it is a
statue with the sundial in his hands (you may see it in my article on GI
(orologi solari medievali a 'tutto tondo'). The statue is more than 10 meter
hight on a pillar of the church and the lines are very hard to be read. I
suppose that all the medieval sundials were painted so they were more easy to be
read even in hight places but nevertheless more than ten meter is too much. One
may puzzle on it: "why so hight?", but the reason is lighted by the name of the
squeare facing the dial. The squeare is named "little squeare of the cloisters".
Today the cloisters and the cemetery of the priests, that was inside the
cloisters, are not more there. The name of the squeare say "cloisters", this may
mean two levels of cloister, one up the other. I saw other double cloisters in
my trip looking for medieval sundials, and just in another one in South of Italy
I found a medieval sundial easy readable only standing on the floor of the
second level cloister, the dial, not more than 30 cm diameter, was very close to
the roof and unfindable from the ground, while at the second cloister level you
may find it al eye level.
 
Mario
-Mario
ArnaldiVia Cavour, 57c48100 RavennaLat. 44° 25' N - Lon. 12° 12'
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Re: Re: high dials

2005-03-22 Thread The Shaws



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