Re: Frank King
For someone like me who once worked in a herbarium, an "asterism" could conjure a mental image of a garden bed planted with a range of colourful daisies (members of the plant family Asteraceae). Cheers, John John Pickard john.pick...@bigpond.com -Original Message- From: Richard Langley Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 1:13 AM To: Frank King Cc: Sundial List Subject: Re: Frank King I run into that problem all the time concerning GPS and GNSS. Even editors of technical magazines are often not fully scientifically literate. In the editorial of a GNSS magazine this month, the editor stated that an asterism was a group of constellations! :-( -- Richard Langley - | Richard B. LangleyE-mail: l...@unb.ca | | Geodetic Research Laboratory Web: http://gge.unb.ca/ | | Dept. of Geodesy and Geomatics EngineeringPhone:+1 506 453-5142 | | University of New Brunswick Fax: +1 506 453-4943 | | Fredericton, N.B., Canada E3B 5A3 | |Fredericton? Where's that? See: http://www.fredericton.ca/ | - --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
RE: Frank King
"fully" ? Sadly understated! -Original Message- From: sundial [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On Behalf Of Richard Langley Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 6:14 AM To: Frank King Cc: Sundial List Subject: Re: Frank King I run into that problem all the time concerning GPS and GNSS. Even editors of technical magazines are often not fully scientifically literate. In the editorial of a GNSS magazine this month, the editor stated that an asterism was a group of constellations! :-( -- Richard Langley - | Richard B. LangleyE-mail: l...@unb.ca | | Geodetic Research Laboratory Web: http://gge.unb.ca/ | | Dept. of Geodesy and Geomatics EngineeringPhone:+1 506 453-5142 | | University of New Brunswick Fax: +1 506 453-4943 | | Fredericton, N.B., Canada E3B 5A3 | |Fredericton? Where's that? See: http://www.fredericton.ca/ | - > On Feb 21, 2019, at 8:57 AM, Frank King wrote: > > Dear Willy et al, > > You are quite right... > >> There are two fundamental errors in the article by David Leafe for >> the Daily Mail. > > He spent an hour on the telephone to me yesterday evening. He went > through his text about 20 times. The big problem, for me, was trying > to explain the difference between latitude and longitude! > > An even bigger problem was that his Editor kept reminding himthat the > text must be something that Daily Mail readers could understand! > > I thought he had got everything right but his Editor must have > back-tracked a couple of versions. No doubt Daily Mail readers will > be happy :-) > > Moral: never believe what you read in the newspapers even when it is > quoting me. > > Very best wishes > > Frank > > --- > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: Frank King
I run into that problem all the time concerning GPS and GNSS. Even editors of technical magazines are often not fully scientifically literate. In the editorial of a GNSS magazine this month, the editor stated that an asterism was a group of constellations! :-( -- Richard Langley - | Richard B. LangleyE-mail: l...@unb.ca | | Geodetic Research Laboratory Web: http://gge.unb.ca/ | | Dept. of Geodesy and Geomatics EngineeringPhone:+1 506 453-5142 | | University of New Brunswick Fax: +1 506 453-4943 | | Fredericton, N.B., Canada E3B 5A3| |Fredericton? Where's that? See: http://www.fredericton.ca/ | - > On Feb 21, 2019, at 8:57 AM, Frank King wrote: > > Dear Willy et al, > > You are quite right... > >> There are two fundamental errors in the >> article by David Leafe for the Daily Mail. > > He spent an hour on the telephone to me > yesterday evening. He went through his > text about 20 times. The big problem, for > me, was trying to explain the difference > between latitude and longitude! > > An even bigger problem was that his Editor > kept reminding himthat the text must be > something that Daily Mail readers could > understand! > > I thought he had got everything right but > his Editor must have back-tracked a couple > of versions. No doubt Daily Mail readers > will be happy :-) > > Moral: never believe what you read in the > newspapers even when it is quoting me. > > Very best wishes > > Frank > > --- > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: Frank King
Dear Willy et al, My suspicions ares confirmed... I have just received a message from David Leafe: Unfortunately, although I sent them the revised scientific information as we agreed it, they had to cut it down and I'm not sure that it now all makes sense... The errors are NOT the fault of David Leafe!! Moral number 2: we must always be careful when trying to identify sources of errors! Very best wishes Frank --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: Frank King
Dear Willy et al, You are quite right... > There are two fundamental errors in the > article by David Leafe for the Daily Mail. He spent an hour on the telephone to me yesterday evening. He went through his text about 20 times. The big problem, for me, was trying to explain the difference between latitude and longitude! An even bigger problem was that his Editor kept reminding himthat the text must be something that Daily Mail readers could understand! I thought he had got everything right but his Editor must have back-tracked a couple of versions. No doubt Daily Mail readers will be happy :-) Moral: never believe what you read in the newspapers even when it is quoting me. Very best wishes Frank --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: Frank King
Thank you, Dan. There are two fundamental errors in the article by David Leafe for the Daily Mail. He has not understood the lesson of Frank King. Error 1. "The tilt of the Earth's axis varies on a day to day basis." Here he confuses the "equation of time" with the "Earths axis". Error 2 "Noon on a sundial in Cambridge, which is an eighth of a degree in East of Greenwich, is 30 seconds earlier that is in a sundial in Greenwich. To adjust for this, the angle of the gnomon has to be calibrated to that of the local area." Not the angle of the gnomon has to be adjusted for this but the position of the hour lines. Willy Leenders Hasselt in Flanders (Belgium) Visit my website about the sundials in the province of Limburg (Flanders) with a section 'worth knowing about sundials' (mostly in Dutch): http://www.wijzerweb.be Op 21 feb 2019, om 10:23 heeft Dan-George Uza het volgende geschreven: > Here's the link. > > https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6727419/Top-sundial-expert-sheds-fascinating-light-art-form-fears-slipping-shadows.html > > Dan Uza > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:17 AM Colin Davis wrote: > Hi! > > In todays Daily Mail is a full page article by Frank King on his fear > about the demise of the sundial > > Cheers > > Colin Davis > > --- > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > > --- > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: Frank King
Here's the link. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6727419/Top-sundial-expert-sheds-fascinating-light-art-form-fears-slipping-shadows.html Dan Uza On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:17 AM Colin Davis wrote: > Hi! > > In todays Daily Mail is a full page article by Frank King on his fear > about the demise of the sundial > > Cheers > > Colin Davis > > --- > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > > --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: Frank King on radio (online)
Excellent! Thanks Frank and Fred. Roger Bailey From: Fred Sawyer Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 11:11 AM To: Sundial List Subject: Frank King on radio (online) The March 28 edition of the Chris Evans Breakfast Show (from BBC Radio 2) can be heard until April 4 online at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01dpttc/The_Chris_Evans_Breakfast_Show_The_Clock_Doc_teaches_us_about_sundials/ The show includes an interview with The Clock Doc Frank King. You can skip through the program, if you like, by moving the cursor until you are at the 2hour 10minute mark. Frank is on for a little more than 5 minutes. The program description: We learn all about sundials from the Doc of Clever Clocks, Frank King, who conducts the first radio interview without being asked any questions. Nicely done Frank! Fred Sawyer --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
RE: Frank King on radio (online)
Loved the big buildup for Frank by the radio host with all the heraldic horns- suitable for a King! Thanks foe plugging PWS at the end and for talking about the art and science of sundials Good job Frank. John From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On Behalf Of Fred Sawyer Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 11:12 AM To: Sundial List Subject: Frank King on radio (online) The March 28 edition of the Chris Evans Breakfast Show (from BBC Radio 2) can be heard until April 4 online at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01dpttc/The_Chris_Evans_Breakfast_Show _The_Clock_Doc_teaches_us_about_sundials/ The show includes an interview with The Clock Doc Frank King. You can skip through the program, if you like, by moving the cursor until you are at the 2hour 10minute mark. Frank is on for a little more than 5 minutes. The program description: We learn all about sundials from the Doc of Clever Clocks, Frank King, who conducts the first radio interview without being asked any questions. Nicely done Frank! Fred Sawyer --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
