Re: [SunRay-Users] Chances of crowd funding a buy of SRSS from Oracle?
Happy to contribute (time and money) but can't answer any of the other questions Eric On 29/10/2013 11:45, Kalle Anka wrote: How big would the chance be to crowd fund a buy out of SRSS from Oracle? 1) OpenOffice was released to the open source community by Oracle because they did not make money from it. So, how big are the chances that Oracle freely release SRSS to the community? Very slim? What are your thoughts on this? 2) If chances are very slim we can stop hoping for a free release from Oracle. Instead, would it be possible to reach Oracle if we crowd funded a buy out of SRSS? Probably yes, if there are money involved. How much money? What are your thoughts? 3) How big is the user base, how many would be interested in contributing money? Maybe there are some organizations and companies too, that are willing to contribute money? I would be interested in contributing money for sure. 4) Should we try to pursue this suggestion more seriously? Am I the only one interested in this, then it is no idea. But if we can gain momentum, it might be possible. Then we could make plans of a buy out. ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users -- / . Eric A. Bautsch /-- __ _____ / // / / (_/(___(__/ email: eric.baut...@pobox.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Sun Ray Product Discontinuation - Real Reason?
I agree with that one, but that's not a thin client problem, that's a problem with the infrastructure behind the thin client. While I try not to use Linux unless I really, really cannot help it, I have to face reality and realise that Linux is going to take over what there is left of a Solaris infrastructure at some point in the future and there is nothing keeping you from having the most current Linux desktop on your Sun Ray. Eric On 21/10/2013 14:53, Jeremy Loukinas wrote: Fact of the matter is it's been a very niche market from the start. I personally use one everyday but when I have a macbook or a linux laptop sitting next to me with the latest desktop and all the bells and whistles on it, it's hard to want to jump back on a 8 year old gnome 2.x desktop on sparc that I can't get any updated browsers on etc. On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Francois Dion francois.d...@gmail.com mailto:francois.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Eric Bautsch eric.baut...@pobox.com mailto:eric.baut...@pobox.com wrote: Assuming you are not trolling I'm not buying a thin client because the hardware costs less, but for a whole lot of other reasons, not limited to, but including: * no data on device I know of a few companies that are using encryption on their drive of all their laptops, to prevent ooops moments, but since it is so slow (windows solution) most people have a second laptop without encryption, bring their own etc. Totally defeats the purpose. Francois -- www.pyptug.org http://www.pyptug.org - raspberry-python.blogspot.com http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com - @f_dion ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org mailto:SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users -- / . Eric A. Bautsch /-- __ _____ / // / / (_/(___(__/ email: eric.baut...@pobox.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Sun Ray Product Discontinuation - Real Reason?
Assuming you are not trolling I'm not buying a thin client because the hardware costs less, but for a whole lot of other reasons, not limited to, but including: * no data on device * no need to synchonise laptops, desktops, etc. * no need to carry a laptop with me to the office at all These are just my personal reason, I'm sure if I spent more than 10secs, I'd come up with a whole lot more Eric On 20/10/2013 13:26, lars.tunkr...@bredband.net wrote: Well, How many SUN-Ray 3 were shipped during the last 12 months ? I would not think It was wast amount. Today a new laptop is cheaper than a thin-client. The purchaser's reason to buy thin clients have vanished. //Lars On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 21:33:24 -0700, Kent Peacock jken...@yahoo.com wrote: On 10/17/2013 8:57 PM, Aaron Browne wrote: Is anyone able to point me in the direction of a real explanation as to why Oracle is choosing to discontinue their Sun Ray products? $$$ (My own opinion, not Oracle's, etc, etc.) Kent Senior Software Developer from (almost) the beginning in 1998. ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users -- / . Eric A. Bautsch /-- __ _____ / // / / (_/(___(__/ email: eric.baut...@pobox.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Sun Ray 2N Notebook question
If memory serves, this is the same as the Accutech Gobi 8 (which I have sitting around in the attic somewhere) It should be menu driven and you can create profiles for it. In fact, when powered on it should put you into the menu on its own. I think (and don't quote me on that, but I can't find their website any more) that Accutech are no longer. I've got a pdf Getting Started Guide which I can forward to you off list (it's a bit big to spam everyone's inbox) if you like. Eric On 20/03/2012 12:55, Paul Whitener wrote: Greetings all, I have acquired a Sun Ray 2N notebook. It is a nifty toy! I think they were specially made for a customer in Japan? I have noticed that while it will connect to the Ether, it seems to have been focused on wifi. In the firmware, there is no place to point it to a specific server. SO I am guessing DHCP was supposed to push that. My question is this: Is there a firmware upgrade or hack that any one has that lets it use Ether a bit more easily? I am guessing it is not supported, just hoping someone has some good stuff for it. Thanks in advance, /paul ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users -- / . Eric A. Bautsch /-- __ _____ / // / / (_/(___(__/ email: eric.baut...@pobox.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Log off instead of screen locking?
Admittedly, I don't use either GNOME or KDE, but I just changed the screensaver command to utdetach and I'm using xautolock to invoke a screen saver (utdetach in this case) after idle time. If I am reading a document at the time, all I have to do is re-authenticate and I get my session back anyway. Not sure this helps you in your case with GNOME, mind... Eric Michael Jinks wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:06:16AM +1000, John Francis wrote: Michael, Not sure if you are trying to disable the just disable the screen locking or implement an auto-logoff feature. Which one is it? Both: We don't want people to be able to lock the screen and walk away; and, if they just walk away, we want the system to log them off after some period of inactivity, rather than putting up the screen saver. (Or, if the screen saver comes up for a few seconds and then they get logged off, that would be fine; maybe better, since it would provide a warning for someone who was just reading a document, say, and not actively interacting with the desktop.) I looked into the gnome-screensaver-command idea, but found that on Solaris the command isn't present. There is xscreensaver-command which fills more or less the same role, but doesn't work in quite the same way. I think I can still script up something, but it's going to take a little thought and probably some trial and error. ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users -- / . Eric A. Bautsch /-- __ _____ / // / / (_/(___(__/ email: eric.baut...@pobox.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] sunray 2n
If memory serves, the 2n is the Tadpole unit? In which case the firmware is here: ftp://ftp.tadpole.com/support/Comet15/ Eric Nickolas Popoff wrote: Hello, i hope some one can help me... i just got a sunray 2n off of ebay, it is awesome, except when i plug it into my network running srss 4.2 it connects fine, and tries to download the firmware and i get a 4g bad load error message... i am just wondering does the ea version of sunray 5 have the firmware for this device? if not does anyone know where i can get it? or have any other ideas why it is not working thanks nick ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users -- / . Eric A. Bautsch /-- __ _____ / // / / (_/(___(__/ email: eric.baut...@pobox.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Tadpole 4100?
Hi Chuck. Yes, I had the same problem and reverted back to a fixed key. Eric Charles Greco wrote: Just an update to anyone else working on this problem the end result of my testing is that the phase1 completes just fine but the phase2 fails. Problem is the Tadpole never gets prompted for the user authentication and the debug on the cisco indicates it is sending XAUTH_USER_NAME_V2 and XAUTH_USER_PASSWORD_V2 and getting no response. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated. My cisco config: aaa authentication login userlist local aaa authorization network grouplist local ! ! ! username cisco password 0 cisco ! ! crypto isakmp policy 1 encr 3des authentication pre-share group 2 ! crypto isakmp client configuration group cisco key cisco dns 10.0.100.10 domain ops.qualys.com pool green acl 199 ! ! crypto ipsec transform-set mytr esp-3des esp-sha-hmac ! crypto dynamic-map mode 1 set transform-set mytr ! ! crypto map mode client authentication list userlist crypto map mode isakmp authorization list grouplist crypto map mode client configuration address initiate crypto map mode client configuration address respond crypto map mode 1 ipsec-isakmp dynamic mode ! ! ! ip local pool green 10.42.42.1 10.42.42.42 ! ! interface FastEthernet0 ip address 10.x.x.x 255.255.255.0 duplex auto speed auto crypto map mode ! ! access-list 199 permit ip 192.168.200.0 0.0.0.255 any Tadpole: Firmware: 1.4.8 IPSec VPN: IKE Tunnelled Aggressive Mode Encr: 3des Auth SHA-1 DH: Group 2 Cheers, -Chuck -Original Message- From: sunray-users-boun...@filibeto.org [mailto:sunray-users-boun...@filibeto.org] On Behalf Of Constantine Morris Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:36 PM To: SunRay-Users mailing list Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] Tadpole 4100? We are using the Tadpole M1400 with Juniper SSG 350 and it works like a charm. Tadpole Settings are: Phase 1 - Aggressive Mode Device ID - E-mail address Encryption - 3DES-CBC Authentication - SHA1 Group 2 (MODP 1024) PFS - None Xauth - preshared Key Static IP - x.x.x.x VPN Server - x.x.x.x Hope this helps. Costa -Original Message- From: sunray-users-boun...@filibeto.org [mailto:sunray-users-boun...@filibeto.org] On Behalf Of Paul Whitener Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 3:12 PM To: SunRay-Users mailing list Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] Tadpole 4100? I have the Comet 150 version and it connects to Cisco EZVPN great! IKE Aggressive Mode 3DES-CBC Auth MD5 DH Group2 MODP 1024 aes-128 /paul -Original Message- From: Charles Greco cgr...@qualys.com Sent: Jun 10, 2009 10:34 PM To: SunRay-Users mailing list sunray-users@filibeto.org Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] Tadpole 4100? Oh, that's really confusing as I wrote it. I was speaking of dial-in vpn access. E.g. using the vpn client built into the Tadpole. I've played with various configurations and can't seem to get it to work smoothly. -Original Message- From: sunray-users-boun...@filibeto.org [mailto:sunray-users-boun...@filibeto.org] On Behalf Of Craig Bender Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:11 PM To: SunRay-Users mailing list Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] Tadpole 4100? Dial in? Charles Greco wrote: Hello all, Has anyone configured a cisco router device to allow dial-in access from a Tadpole Comet SunRay client? If you've got a working config sample let me know. Cheers, -Chuck This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users -- / . Eric A. Bautsch /-- __ _____ / // /
[SunRay-Users] Off-Topic: Adobe Reader 9.1.0 finally available for Solaris x86!
Stupid question: How do you tell CUPS to populate from a central CUPS server? I have tried looking on the web, but am totally prepared to take a RTFMP if someone could point me at the right man page ;-) Eric Aaron Wilson wrote: We use cups from opencsw/blastwave here. We actually have a central cups server setup and that is setup with all of it's printers shared. Then on our sunray servers we also have cups installed and it's set to see printers shared by other servers. So the cups on our sunray servers automatically populate with the printers from our central cups server. We've had this setup for about 6 months now and it's worked really well for us. And I can confirm this works with firefox3 and this new version of acroread. We didn't use to have a central cups server. Only reason we do now is because it's annoying to figure out which sunray server a user having a printing issue is logged into so you can figure out which cups server to login to. Not to mention if you changed a printer on one of the sunray cups servers, then you had to repeat for all your sunray cups servers. Also if we want to work on a printer, then we can unpublish it on the central cups server and it won't appear in the cups on any of the sunray servers anymore. Keeps people from printing to a printer you're trying to work on. Aaron Darrel Hankerson wrote: Stoyan Angelov writes: adobe has finally released a modern port of Adobe Reader for the Solaris x86 platform! The printing support is for cups, and Sun dropped cups from the companion CD for the 10_08 release. Acroread will print without cups, but there's no menu selection of printers. If I recall correctly, the story may be similar for firefox 3 contributed by Sun. Perhaps it's time to switch to cups, but I suspect I'll point acroread to an existing cups server. (In very limited testing, the cups material on our system from 2005 works with 10_08.) What's the smart solution? -- Darrel Hankerson ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users -- / . Eric A. Bautsch /-- __ _____ / // / / (_/(___(__/ email: eric.baut...@pobox.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Power off Sun Ray DTU
That's in fact what I do at home. I have also seen in some offices a motion/IR/heat detector over each desk and when no-one's sitting there, all the power to the desk gets turned off. Neat. Eric Gerard Martin wrote: How about putting a power strip with an on/off switch behind the 270 and plugging in to that? Other than that, they would have to pull the adapter out of the unit. -Original Message- From: Joseph Chiong jos...@esuria.com.bn Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:27 PM To: SunRay-Users mailing list sunray-users@filibeto.org Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] Power off Sun Ray DTU Hi Gerald, My 270 screen is turned off similar to yours. However, the customer has a policy of powering off the desktop at the end of business day. Turning off the screen is not considered a power off for them. Anyway thanks for the explanation. Thanks. Gerard Martin wrote: The way it was explained to me in (Sun Ray class) is that in order for the DTU to be considered an appliance it could not have an on/off switch. I don't know why Sun wanted it to be an appliance, but that's the explanation I got. My 270s turn their screens off after a period of inactivity, so it's not been an issue for me. Are yours not doing that? I'm willing to bet that with the screen off the 270 consumes 7-10 watts, much like a 2/2FS. On 3/17/09 10:34 PM, Joseph Chiong jos...@esuria.com.bn wrote: Dear Sun Ray Users, Any idea how to power off the Sun Ray 270 DTU to save energy? It is kind of odd to exclude a power button on the DTU. Thanks. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ The information contained in this transmission is confidential. It is intended solely for the use of the individual(s) or organization(s) to whom it is addressed. Any disclosure, copying or further distribution is not permitted unless such privilege is explicitly granted in writing by PC Mall Gov, Inc. Furthermore, PC Mall Gov, Inc. is not responsible for the proper and complete transmission of the substance of this communication, nor for any delay in its receipt. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3944 (20090317) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3944 (20090317) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- / . Eric A. Bautsch /-- __ _____ / // / / (_/(___(__/ email: eric.baut...@pobox.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Screen display issues in StarOffice8.
Stupid question: Have you tried a different window manager? I have the black-bits problem, too, but only when I use fvwm, not in GNOME (I just happen to like fvwm). Dragging and xterm over the affected areas fixes that (you have probably already worked that one out). Also for me the middle mouse button does not work on x86, StarOffice 8 and fvwm. Sun have acknowledged that this one is a bug in StarOffice, but since it works with GNOME, there is not sufficient customer demand to fix it :-( Eric Brian Knoblauch wrote: Does your Sun Ray server have a graphics console on which you can try these operations? It works fine from the graphics console, and also from SSGD, but no other apps exhibit the issue at all... Brian Knoblauch wrote: I've noticed a few issues now that I've been unable to resolve, and that seem specific to SunRay usage. Note that I'm currently running Update 7 of SO8. I had to back out the U8 patch because it makes heavy red lines obscure large parts of spreadsheets (not SunRay specific, happens over SSGD as well). Anyways, the SunRay specific issues are: - When in busy (lots of text and colors) spreadsheets, paging/scrolling about sometimes results in large portions of the screen turning black. That not only includes the spreadsheet itself, but can include the launch bar, etc. Cables test good, no dropped packets, etc. This is on an x64 system, unable to duplicate on SPARC. Not sure if this is a real SunRay issue, or StarOffice... - When selecting large areas of spreadsheets, the selection box flashes between normal/reverse video quite rapidly for up to a minute AFTER the user stops actively selecting the area. Also seems to be x64 specific, unable to duplicate on SPARC. Sounds like it's a StarOffice issue, but wondering if it might be SunRay? -- / . Eric A. Bautsch /-- __ _____ / // / / (_/(___(__/ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
Re: [SunRay-Users] Introducing myself
I just got my tadpole working with the built-in VPN client connecting to a PIX 501 in my home datacenter. Shall try out the performance first time today at customer site. If anyone needs configuration pointers, I'm happy to provide them. All we need now is a tadpole comet with a PCMCIA slot to take the Vodafone 3G+ data card and you can be off to the coffee shop... By the way: At home, I'm using it via wireless and VPN, so you could use it that way if your coffee shop provides free wireless access Eric Bob Doolittle wrote: Joe Reid wrote: There are two types of Sun Ray @ Home, one has a local server (which a lot of people on this alias have) and one is with a remote server. Which are you interested in? How about taking a sunray to the coffee shop, off my home sunray server, that's my next project. Have you seen the Tadpole Comet? Think wireless Sun Ray laptop. Unfortunately, Tadpole was bought up and the future of the line is uncertain. -Bob ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users -- / . Eric A. Bautsch /-- __ _____ / // / / (_/(___(__/ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
