Is s6/s6-rc ready to be the ubiquitous init?

2019-01-10 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all,

Months ago IBM bought Redhat, and IBM might not want to throw a million
a year at a dev group devoted to keeping the systemd leaky boat afloat.
Meanwhile, just today another major systemd snafu emerged.

If IBM bails on systemd, is s6/s6-rc ready to take its place? I mean we
all know it's ready technically, and is well maintained, but is it ready
politically, with help for distro packagers? Perhaps some documentation
on best practices and making it easy to install s6/s6-rc.

We could soon have a rare opportunity for a Linux-wide init change. I'd
hate to see systemd replaced by more snake oil.

SteveT

Steve Litt 
January 2019 featured book: Troubleshooting: Just the Facts
http://www.troubleshooters.com/tjust


Re: nosh: User-space virtual terminal test and questions

2019-01-10 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
The blue/green problem only manifested itself with certain terminal 
types, which I was not regularly using.


Since you have 1.39 built, and as long as you built from today's 
snapshot, you can be the second person in the world to enjoy this:


   while true ; do printf '\f' ; top -b -n 1 | sed -e '1,6s/^/#/' ; sleep 1 ; 
done | console-flat-table-viewer --header-count 1

Substitute

   top -b all | sed -e '1,8s/^/#/'

on FreeBSD, or indeed

   procstat -a

Notice the |ascii| format, too.

So what the world needs now is for M. Bercot to give us a Linux+BSD 
version of |s6-ps| that uses US and RS, or |vis()| encoding.  (-:


The FreeBSD people definitely need to give us a |procstat| that uses 
|strvis()|, given that the output of |procstat| is explicitly documented 
as being a table and |vis()| encoding is actually documented for this 
type of table in FreeBSD.  (See the manual for |fstab|, for example.)