[freenet-support] Houston, We have a problem

2007-01-27 Thread Matthew Toseland
So this is just an "all peers are backed off frequently after the load 
limiting changes" report?

Or is there a definite problem with nodes not connecting or even being 
backed off?

On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 11:29:18PM -, Mr. Flibble wrote:
> > In 1009 and before i had 30K outgoing bandwidth limit and i 
> > was running bit torrent at the
> > same time. I had hard drive access going through the roof, 
> > and thrashing sometimes.
> > Yet, i had no or sometimes 1 backed off node.
> > 
> > Now, with 1011. I just killed every application that uses 
> > much memory or network. I have
> > no thrashing, and CPU stopped going to 100%, but now all the 
> > nodes are backed off,
> > sometimes to the extent of no longer being connected. My ping 
> > time also goes through the roof.
> 
> I have this problem too.
> 
> The  box was thrashing a bit, so I added 512mb to the machine and set
> freenet 0.7 to use 256mb (was on the default of 128mb before).
> 
> * Used Java memory: 207 MiB
> * Allocated Java memory: 254 MiB
> * Maximum Java memory: 254 MiB
> * Available CPUs: 1
> * Running threads: 408
> * JVM Vendor: Sun Microsystems Inc.
> * JVM Version: 1.5.0_09-b01
> * OS Name: Windows 2000
> * OS Version: 5.0
> * OS Architecture: x86
> 
> At the moment I've got the following:
> * Connected: 1
> * Backed off: 6
> * Disconnected: 13
> 
> All backed  off reasons are "ForwardRejectedOverload"
> 
> nodeUptime: 6d4h
> 
> * Total Output: 9.88 GiB (19.3 KiBps)
> * Payload Output: 7.53 GiB (14.7 KiBps) (76%)
> * Total Input: 7.62 GiB (14.9 KiBps)
> * Output Rate: 24.4 KiBps (of 30.0 KiBps)
> * Input Rate: 18.9 KiBps (of 120 KiBps)
> 
> So it does seen to be working, which is fine, but  as  Volodya  says, these
> "backed off" messages didn't happen  that often in previous versions.
> 
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[freenet-support] Why is the 0.7 network slower then the 0.5 network?

2007-01-27 Thread Matthew Toseland
0ojdvzqFQ/KnoppMythR5E50.iso.001
> CHK at eTWRGYjhw-QiGjnR6EMSshNReP4OAwI
> ,Km~kXrIFaoS3YHxq3pzslg/KnoppMythR5E50.iso.002
> CHK at 9fz
> ~btHNF09nnJ8JslaPzp9yRnYOAwI,OYv3vGIXuHbbB6Awt27JVQ/KnoppMythR5E50.iso.003
> CHK at iSlZHnuIKDatowBKQakjuRZ87rMOAwI
> ,A9NSo7jmfqkZ960iVG1IPA/KnoppMythR5E50.iso.004
> CHK at 2gzbBa6w24d7HeVFy
> ~hTFv0YcIwOAwI,uBPmFVhbQ1nQUXUEwDAGwg/KnoppMythR5E50.iso.005
> CHK at 3VHWmRI288WDOPdJoaUMifHwjfgLAwI
> ,chRyaMSs8vQIc8B-gpK9iA/KnoppMythR5E50.iso.006
> 
> TimeBlockStatusSpeedThreads
> 20:16begin encoding20
> 21:0000112%11.4k/s20
> 
> - Anonymous - 2007.01.23 - 06:11:08GMT -
> 
> TimeBlockStatusSpeedThreads
> 20:16begin encoding20
> 21:0000112%11.4k/s20
> 22:0800131%3.4k/s20
> 
> - thorn in the side at qLt68MNMtiOi3pCgkZ_pf74PB+o - 2007.01.23 -
> 15:33:55GMT -
> 
> DateTimeBlockStatusSpeedThreads
> 1/2220:16begin encoding20
> 1/2221:0000112%11.4k/s20
> 1/2222:0800131%3.4k/s20
> 1/2307:30001/002100%11.4k/s20
> 1/2307:3000391%11.4k/s12
> 1/2307:300041%11.4k/s8
> 
> - thorn in the side at qLt68MNMtiOi3pCgkZ_pf74PB+o - 2007.01.23 -
> 19:09:15GMT -
> 
> DateTimeBlockStatusSpeedThreads
> 1/2220:16begin encoding20
> 1/2221:0000112%11.4k/s20
> 1/2222:0800131%3.4k/s20
> 1/2307:30001/002100%11.4k/s20 < 001 finished at 1/23
> 01:49 and 002 finished at 1/23 06:16
> 1/2307:3000391%11.4k/s12
> 1/2307:300041%11.4k/s8
> 1/2311:01003100%5.7k/s20 < 003 finished at 1/23 09:17
> 1/2311:0100499%5.7k/s2
> 1/2311:0100519%5.7k/s18
> 
> The 501MB insert will probably be finished by the time I get back from my
> next class.
> 
> Has anyone on the 0.7 network finised downloading the Firefox insert?
> 
> - thorn in the side at qLt68MNMtiOi3pCgkZ_pf74PB+o - 2007.01.24 -
> 00:43:41GMT -
> 
> The upload has completed. The 0.7 network has been spanked. It didn't even
> take 24 hours to upload an ISO on the 0.5 network, but it could take weeks
> on the 0.7 network.
> 
> DateTimeBlockStatusSpeedThreads
> 1/2220:16begin encoding20
> 1/2221:0000112%11.4k/s20
> 1/2222:0800131%3.4k/s20
> 1/2307:30001/002100%11.4k/s20 < 001 finished at 1/23
> 01:49 and 002 finished at 1/23 06:16
> 1/2307:3000391%11.4k/s12
> 1/2307:300041%11.4k/s8
> 1/2311:01003100%5.7k/s20 < 003 finished at 1/23 09:17
> 1/2311:0100499%5.7k/s2
> 1/2311:0100519%5.7k/s18
> 1/2316:00004100%??  < 004 finished at 11:08
> 1/2316:00005100%??  < 005 finished at 14:45
> 1/2316:00006100%??  < 006 finished at 13:56
> 
> - thorn in the side at qLt68MNMtiOi3pCgkZ_pf74PB+o - 2007.01.24 -
> 12:56:49GMT -
> 
> Here are some download results from the 0.5 network. It looks like the
> 0.7network would be slower then the
> 0.5 network on download speed too.
> 
> >- downloader at wGd_NnxJzMlza0XwDZVZiV7RLF4 - 2007.01.24 - 
> >03:39:18GMT
> -
> >
> >Download completed.  Total download time: 21 Hrs.
> >(those last few blocks always take the longest, but that's freenet)
> >
> >Not my fastest download, but then I don't think this was the most popular
> file either.
> >
> 
> and
> 
> >- AnotherAnon - 2007.01.23 - 23:30:12GMT -
> >
> >KnoppMythR5E50.iso.001 50%
> >KnoppMythR5E50.iso.002 42%
> >KnoppMythR5E50.iso.003 45%
> >KnoppMythR5E50.iso.004  3%
> >KnoppMythR5E50.iso.005  0%
> >KnoppMythR5E50.iso.006 Done in 10 hours at 12:30 GMT
> >Currently it is 13:30 GMT
> >

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[freenet-support] Cannot delete freenet software

2007-01-27 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 01:19:47AM -0500, drriley at cogeco.ca wrote:
> What is wrong?  I cannot delete the freenet software.  Is this a 
> common/known problem?  Any ideas how to force it to uninstall?

Did you click on the uninstaller that was installed with freenet (on the 
start menu probably)? This should direct you to a web page explaining 
how to uninstall freenet (we will have a proper uninstaller soon).
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Re: [freenet-support] Houston, We have a problem

2007-01-27 Thread Matthew Toseland
So this is just an "all peers are backed off frequently after the load 
limiting changes" report?

Or is there a definite problem with nodes not connecting or even being 
backed off?

On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 11:29:18PM -, Mr. Flibble wrote:
> > In 1009 and before i had 30K outgoing bandwidth limit and i 
> > was running bit torrent at the
> > same time. I had hard drive access going through the roof, 
> > and thrashing sometimes.
> > Yet, i had no or sometimes 1 backed off node.
> > 
> > Now, with 1011. I just killed every application that uses 
> > much memory or network. I have
> > no thrashing, and CPU stopped going to 100%, but now all the 
> > nodes are backed off,
> > sometimes to the extent of no longer being connected. My ping 
> > time also goes through the roof.
> 
> I have this problem too.
> 
> The  box was thrashing a bit, so I added 512mb to the machine and set
> freenet 0.7 to use 256mb (was on the default of 128mb before).
> 
> * Used Java memory: 207 MiB
> * Allocated Java memory: 254 MiB
> * Maximum Java memory: 254 MiB
> * Available CPUs: 1
> * Running threads: 408
> * JVM Vendor: Sun Microsystems Inc.
> * JVM Version: 1.5.0_09-b01
> * OS Name: Windows 2000
> * OS Version: 5.0
> * OS Architecture: x86
> 
> At the moment I've got the following:
> * Connected: 1
> * Backed off: 6
> * Disconnected: 13
> 
> All backed  off reasons are "ForwardRejectedOverload"
> 
> nodeUptime: 6d4h
> 
> * Total Output: 9.88 GiB (19.3 KiBps)
> * Payload Output: 7.53 GiB (14.7 KiBps) (76%)
> * Total Input: 7.62 GiB (14.9 KiBps)
> * Output Rate: 24.4 KiBps (of 30.0 KiBps)
> * Input Rate: 18.9 KiBps (of 120 KiBps)
> 
> So it does seen to be working, which is fine, but  as  Volodya  says, these
> "backed off" messages didn't happen  that often in previous versions.
> 
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Re: [freenet-support] Why is the 0.7 network slower then the 0.5 network?

2007-01-27 Thread Matthew Toseland
So in summary, for the small file the two networks were comparable - 
1:30ish vs 2:00ish. For the ISO, I'm not sure if there was any 
conclusion?

My 2 cents: Inserts are much faster after the changes to load limiting 
just before xmas, or at least, they should be. Generally freenet 0.7 
uses close to the bandwidth limit now, which it certainly didn't before.

Comments?

On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 06:12:31AM -0800, this.is.not.my.real.email.address . 
wrote:
> I saw the following message on Frost's Freenet board.  Scroll down to the
> end to see the results.  With my experiance uploading and downloading files
> on the the 0.7 network, there is no way I have found to make my speed even
> come close to what they can do on the 0.5 network.  Why is the 0.7 network
> so much slower?
> 
> 
> - Freenet Is [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 2007.01.20 -
> 04:59:37GMT -
> 
> It looks like development has stopped.
> More waste time do nothing prove nothing simulations are in the works.
> LOL!!!
> Why? Look what the sims have done for us. Nothing.
> It's beginning to look like 0.7 is doomed.
> Toad is all but silent.
> 
> - Anonymous - 2007.01.20 - 15:03:09GMT -
> 
> The 0.7 freenet is working the way Toad wanted. He didn't want open net and
> didn't want it to be used for file trading, so as far as he is concerned its
> working as designed. There is no need to do any more development.
> 
> - Anonymous - 2007.01.20 - 21:32:37GMT -
> 
> Freenet 0.7 is brilliant for file trading though!
> 
> check out all the stuff available via Thaw and advertised in the music
> boards.
> 
> - Anonymous - 2007.01.21 - 16:44:34GMT -
> 
> Brilliant for file trading? I have an outstanding challenge to any of the
> 0.7 users who would want to race. So far there have been no takers. How
> about you?
> 
> - Anonymous - 2007.01.22 - 10:20:15GMT -
> 
> OK, sure. How should we do it to ensure the most accurate results?
> 
> 1. We should test both inserts and retrieves.
> 2. We should test a range of filesizes.
> 3. We should do it several times with different files of almost identical
> sizes, so we can see the average time and how much the variance is.
> 4. We could do it with long-running nodes and freshly installed nodes (I
> understand 0.5 needs some time to warm up)
> 5. We could do it with different max memory configurations.
> 
> My internet usage is capped to a certain amount per month, so I throttle my
> Freenet bandwidth accordingly. Can you throttle Freenet 0.5 bandwidth?
> 
> We could start with a simple test. The Linux version of Firefox 2 is
> 9.2MBfrom here:
> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
> 
> I will unthrottle my bandwidth and insert that into Freenet 0.7 and see how
> long it takes. There is a problem in that Freenet doesn't record how long an
> insert takes, so I'll have to watch it regularly. But it will give us an
> idea. I will record the % at regular intervals. I don't have any other
> inserts or retrievals going. [See below for the results].
> 
> My setup: 1.4GHz CPU, 512MB RAM, 128MB allocated to Freenet. Linux
> 2.6.18kernel, Sun Java
> 1.5.0_10-b03. Freenet runs on a cryptsetup encrypted partition. Consumer IDE
> hard disk. No other applications running so swap isn't being used. Internet
> connection is a consumer ADSL, download speed about 4Mbps, upload about
> 500kbps.
> 
> Node Version Information
> 
>* Freenet 0.7 Build #1011 r11589
>* Freenet-ext Build #9 r11062
> 
> Node status overview
> 
>* bwlimitDelayTime: 608ms
>* nodeAveragePingTime: 221ms
>* networkSizeEstimateSession: 401 nodes
>* nodeUptime: 11h7m
>* routingMissDistance: 0.1352
>* backedOffPercent: 79.8%
>* pInstantReject: 0.0%
> 
> Current activity
> 
>* Inserts: 29
>* Requests: 99
>* Transferring Requests: 17
>* ARK Fetch Requests: 6
>* Total Output: 480 MiB (12.2 KiBps)
>* Payload Output: 335 MiB (8.58 KiBps) (69%)
>* Total Input: 432 MiB (11.0 KiBps)
>* Output Rate: 13.8 KiBps (of 100 KiBps)
>* Input Rate: 12.2 KiBps (of 100 KiBps)
> 
> Peer statistics
> 
>* Connected: 3
>* Backed off: 5
>* Disconnected: 6
> 
> Inserting firefox-2.0.0.1.tar.gz (9.2MB), no compression, default priority
> (high).
> 
> I've set the bandwidth limits to 100KBps which is essentially uncapped.
> My CPU usage was minimal (< 5%) and load average was very small (< 0.2).
> 
> Time  %Completed
>   -
> 8:05   0.0%
> 8:11   3.6%
> 8:15   6.5%
> 8:20  11.2%
> 8:25  16.4%
> 8:30  21.4%
> 8:37  27.5%
> 8:40  29.7%
> 8:45  34.5%
> 8:50  38.6%
> 8:55  42.8%
> 9:00  47.1%
> 9:05  51.6%
> 9:10  55.9%
> 9:15  60.4%
> 9:20  65.4%
> 9:25  69.5%
> 9:30  73.6%
> 9:35  78.6%
> 9:41  84.4%
> 9:45  88.0%
> 9:50  93.2%
> 9:55  97.2%
> 9:57 100.0%
> 
> So that is about 5MB per hour for insertions.
> About 100MB a day.
> About 1.4kB per second.
> About 11 kbps.
> Enough to upload an album or two a day; a 700MB DivX would take about a
> week.
> 
> In the sta

[freenet-support] Cannot delete freenet software

2007-01-27 Thread drriley
What is wrong?  I cannot delete the freenet software.  Is this a 
common/known problem?  Any ideas how to force it to uninstall?


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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 refuses to start

2007-01-27 Thread Claus Misfeldt

 Original-Nachricht 
Datum: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:17:15 +
Von: Volodya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED], support@freenetproject.org
Betreff: Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 refuses to start

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Claus Misfeldt wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > after having peeped into Freenet 0.5 I'm about get the latest release
> running.
> > 
> > I launch Freenet with "./run.sh start". After some seconds "./run.sh
> status" 
> > states "Freenet 0.7 is not running." With the "console" option I can see
> the 
> > startup fail with an error message.
> > 
> > Freenet 0.7
> > jre-1.5.0_10-fcs
> > 
> > Output of "run.sh console" (...truncated to where the starting process
> is 
> > aborting)
> > 
> > [...]
> > jvm 1| Error in WrapperListener.start callback.  
> > java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string: "2323;2324;2323"
> > jvm 1| java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string:
> "2323;2324;2323"
> > jvm 1|  at sun.misc.FloatingDecimal.readJavaFormatString(Unknown
> > Source)
> > jvm 1|  at java.lang.Double.parseDouble(Unknown Source)
> > jvm 1|  at freenet.support.Fields.parseInt(Fields.java:576)
> > jvm 1|  at
> freenet.config.IntOption.setInitialValue(IntOption.java:57)
> > jvm 1|  at 
> > freenet.config.PersistentConfig.onRegister(PersistentConfig.java:59)
> > jvm 1|  at freenet.config.SubConfig.register(SubConfig.java:58)
> > jvm 1|  at freenet.config.SubConfig.register(SubConfig.java:63)
> > jvm 1|  at 
> >
> freenet.node.TextModeClientInterfaceServer.maybeCreate(TextModeClientInterfaceServer.java:70)
> > jvm 1|  at
> freenet.node.NodeClientCore.start(NodeClientCore.java:225)
> > jvm 1|  at freenet.node.Node.start(Node.java:1457)
> > jvm 1|  at freenet.node.NodeStarter.start(NodeStarter.java:149)
> > jvm 1|  at 
> >
> org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager$12.run(WrapperManager.java:2788)
> > jvm 1| Closing database due to shutdown.
> > [...]
> > 
> > What can I do?
> > 
> > Regards
> > Claus
> 
> I don't know the answer, but i'll try anyhow. Check your freenet.ini, and
> see what is the
> port that is used for the telnet connection. It should be just 2323, not
> 2323;2323;2323...
> it might be that somehow the file got corrupted. I have no idea how that
> would happen.
>- Volodya

Hi Volodya,

your were right. The freenet.ini consisted of three identical text blocks. I 
erased two of them and - viola!

Thank you very much!
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Re: [freenet-support] Cannot delete freenet software

2007-01-27 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 01:19:47AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What is wrong?  I cannot delete the freenet software.  Is this a 
> common/known problem?  Any ideas how to force it to uninstall?

Did you click on the uninstaller that was installed with freenet (on the 
start menu probably)? This should direct you to a web page explaining 
how to uninstall freenet (we will have a proper uninstaller soon).


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