Re: [freenet-support] Forwarding ports
Thanks Volodya I'm going there now. Will post back for others. On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:51:19 +0700 VolodyA! V Anarhist volo...@whengendarmesleeps.org wrote: l...@hushmail.com пишет: Hi. If anyone has clear directions on how to forward ports could they please post them here? I still need to do this but cannot find out how to do it. ThanX in advance This will depend on your network set-up. The thing is that the port can be blocked at every router that the packet encounters, so everything needs to be open. Here is a very good description that will hopefully get you started (posted by Luke): http://archives.freenetproject.org/message/20090930.143913.eab74afb .en.html - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://www.freedomporn.org/Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut None of us are free until all of us are free.~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi- bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
[freenet-support] storage stats bug
Installing while offline causes store and cache to stay at 0 keys/bytes. Resizing store fixes it 1223 was the last version of freenet that actually worked. But I guess the term: if it aint broke dont fix it. Has newer reached that far. For example Certain someone said (not per word): 1) This version of freenet works, we can now try more disruptive changes 2) Then that certain someone made those disruptive changes and prevented connecting to freenet 1223 with the disruptive changes versions Yes I undestand disruptive changes can be tried once you get something right. No I do not understand preventing the working version from connecting again. Please don't reply to me, just feel bad about whoever's logic. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] storage stats bug
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Toni Bergman toni.berg...@gmail.com wrote: Installing while offline causes store and cache to stay at 0 keys/bytes. Resizing store fixes it 1223 was the last version of freenet that actually worked. But I guess the term: if it aint broke dont fix it. Has newer reached that far. For example Certain someone said (not per word): 1) This version of freenet works, we can now try more disruptive changes 2) Then that certain someone made those disruptive changes and prevented connecting to freenet 1223 with the disruptive changes versions Yes I undestand disruptive changes can be tried once you get something right. No I do not understand preventing the working version from connecting again. Please don't reply to me, just feel bad about whoever's logic. No such decision was made, as far as I know. I don't know of any known-broken changes that were released. It has been months since 1224 was released. How do you expect us to know that something broke if you don't report it? Stop making assumptions: if a bug is introduced in a new version, the developers probably don't know about it. REPORT IT. Those of us actually working on Freenet don't tend to consider it as being in the ain't broke state. Data retention sucks, speed is somewhere between ok and awful depending, security is far weaker than we'd like, etc, etc. Most changes are attempts to fix known bugs, improve usability, or fix the aforementioned gross deficiencies. I can't fathom why you would want Freenet to stop improving. Also, for the record: some of the recent mandatory build requirements have been at my personal request. Those requests were made as part of an effort to improve what limited data collection I can do, with the specific aim of doing exactly what you ask for: namely, measuring whether new builds help or hurt things. They're not aimed at the relatively simple problems you seem to be having, but rather the far more subtle sort like request routing and data reachability, that are impossible to analyze on a single node or small test network, and extremely difficult to measure on the live network. Evan Daniel ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
[freenet-support] No subject
Hello. I hope this is OK. It’s quite long. I wonder if anyone can help with this/these question/s-comment/s in the form of clarification. I hope it doesn’t seem too petty but I wonder if others go through the same confusion as I. On this page: http://127.0.0.1:/plugins/ one can go to: “Load Official Plugin” The viewer can see, as did I, that “Fetch over Freenet is checked AND that it says, “This is untraceable, safe….” NOW, untraceable means anonymous. The other choice available is to, “Fetch over the web from Freenet’s central servers…and is “TRACEABLE”, meaning NOT ANONYMOUS! (Freenet isn’t safe?) On this page: FREEMAIL-SETUP http://127.0.0.1:/freenet:u...@xog49gnltumtjjzj0fvzugdpo4hjusy2us GQkjE7NY4,EtUH5b9gGpp8JiY-Bm-Y9kHX1q-yDjD- 9oRzXn21O9k,AQACAAE/freemail/4/setup/index.html It clearly directs one method of using the same plugin page as my beginning comment above (Load Official Plugin), with the “only” comment for that choice being that it is NOT ANONYMOUS! So, is one correct to assume that the first directive is false, misleading and/or has been tampered with (edited) by someone with bad intent? Or is it the second one? One point I am trying to make here is that this can cause some immediate doubt and confusion in someone new to Freenet. I am concerned because the world needs Freenet and Tor more than they might consciously know. I recently saw figures about the estimated number of users for both, and the numbers were very small. They are small enough that large arrays of computers, set around the world and networked, are capable of watching ALL nodes and gathering the data to be analyzed. Look at Tor. On the Network Map (of the world), there are nodes running in sequential order, and all these are located in the same place – near the CIA in the US. Some of these sequential orders are showing up in other locations around the Tor network. I have found Freenet to be so frustrating and confusing to set up and use, that as I search the web for information that is clear and helpful, I keep coming across more comments from Users who are quitting the program. Now it does make sense to me, that with anonymity programs, the more using them, the better and more safely anonymous it is for all. But, it seems the numbers are dwindling. I don’t know. I have used Tor for about 4 years. I recently went to its Hidden Wiki and about one half of all its services were gone! So, I wonder, as do others, is Tor is dying out? I really don’t want to see that for Tor or Freenet. If one goes to: http://127.0.0.1:/plugins/ first, before finding the .jar or .zip download page (supposedly both are anonymous but of course, IT DOESN’T SAY, then they might make a very bad choice solely from being confused by the directions. So, while this might seem very petty and/or trivial to (I don’t know-most who might read this), it is very important to write directions for the reader, not the writer! In Tor, the Hidden Services may be tampered with, changed, purposely to be misleading and dangerous, by those who want to destroy anonymity and our right to it. They use anonymity to try and destroy anonymity, except for them, of course. Is this also possible with the Freenet pages of “howto’s?” Can they be edited so that one is not aware of what is true, accurate and good for the User? Anyway, I am once more trying to set up Freenet, Freemail and Frost and am close to quitting. If I were more knowledgeable, I would write “howto’s” but I am not. It seems all I am is frustrated. One last thing, at Freemail-Setup, it tells me to download Freemail. The next bit of ‘howto’ is setting it up for “command line version setup”. I’m not doing that. I don’t know the pros and cons of command line Freemail. At the end of that instruction it says, “Now you have Freemail proxy running….” I DO? How? I didn’t do that so what the fuck happened? Does the download set it up or does it have to be set up after it’s downloaded? The latter makes sense to me but, it is now telling me I already have it running without doing anything. So, why the instructions? I mean, C’mon! I have to go by what the writer writes, right? Since it tells me I have it up and running, where is it? I can’t find it. These instructions are telling me to insert the long Freemail address I was given. I was given? When? Where? I haven’t done anything yet but the directions jump from something I don’t want to do and didn’t do, to, “I’m up and running!” This is a joke right? It’s only for those who are IT smart, meaning very few, and anonymity will be shot on site. Just before it gets to THUNDERBIRD, it tells me, “Remember that the Freemail.jar program needs to be running whilst you are reading and sending emails. So, where is it? There is no window to put in any information. Perhaps if I could get some help, yeah, I might be able to help others. Sorry for the rant but writing it out here seems to be
Re: [freenet-support] No subject
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:13 PM, l...@hushmail.com wrote: Hello. I hope this is OK. It’s quite long. I wonder if anyone can help with this/these question/s-comment/s in the form of clarification. I hope it doesn’t seem too petty but I wonder if others go through the same confusion as I. On this page: http://127.0.0.1:/plugins/ one can go to: “Load Official Plugin” The viewer can see, as did I, that “Fetch over Freenet is checked AND that it says, “This is untraceable, safe….” NOW, untraceable means anonymous. The other choice available is to, “Fetch over the web from Freenet’s central servers…and is “TRACEABLE”, meaning NOT ANONYMOUS! (Freenet isn’t safe?) On this page: FREEMAIL-SETUP http://127.0.0.1:/freenet:u...@xog49gnltumtjjzj0fvzugdpo4hjusy2us GQkjE7NY4,EtUH5b9gGpp8JiY-Bm-Y9kHX1q-yDjD- 9oRzXn21O9k,AQACAAE/freemail/4/setup/index.html It clearly directs one method of using the same plugin page as my beginning comment above (Load Official Plugin), with the “only” comment for that choice being that it is NOT ANONYMOUS! So, is one correct to assume that the first directive is false, misleading and/or has been tampered with (edited) by someone with bad intent? Or is it the second one? One point I am trying to make here is that this can cause some immediate doubt and confusion in someone new to Freenet. I am concerned because the world needs Freenet and Tor more than they might consciously know. I recently saw figures about the estimated number of users for both, and the numbers were very small. They are small enough that large arrays of computers, set around the world and networked, are capable of watching ALL nodes and gathering the data to be analyzed. Look at Tor. On the Network Map (of the world), there are nodes running in sequential order, and all these are located in the same place – near the CIA in the US. Some of these sequential orders are showing up in other locations around the Tor network. I have found Freenet to be so frustrating and confusing to set up and use, that as I search the web for information that is clear and helpful, I keep coming across more comments from Users who are quitting the program. Now it does make sense to me, that with anonymity programs, the more using them, the better and more safely anonymous it is for all. But, it seems the numbers are dwindling. I don’t know. I have used Tor for about 4 years. I recently went to its Hidden Wiki and about one half of all its services were gone! So, I wonder, as do others, is Tor is dying out? I really don’t want to see that for Tor or Freenet. If one goes to: http://127.0.0.1:/plugins/ first, before finding the .jar or .zip download page (supposedly both are anonymous but of course, IT DOESN’T SAY, then they might make a very bad choice solely from being confused by the directions. So, while this might seem very petty and/or trivial to (I don’t know-most who might read this), it is very important to write directions for the reader, not the writer! In Tor, the Hidden Services may be tampered with, changed, purposely to be misleading and dangerous, by those who want to destroy anonymity and our right to it. They use anonymity to try and destroy anonymity, except for them, of course. Is this also possible with the Freenet pages of “howto’s?” Can they be edited so that one is not aware of what is true, accurate and good for the User? Anyway, I am once more trying to set up Freenet, Freemail and Frost and am close to quitting. If I were more knowledgeable, I would write “howto’s” but I am not. It seems all I am is frustrated. One last thing, at Freemail-Setup, it tells me to download Freemail. The next bit of ‘howto’ is setting it up for “command line version setup”. I’m not doing that. I don’t know the pros and cons of command line Freemail. At the end of that instruction it says, “Now you have Freemail proxy running….” I DO? How? I didn’t do that so what the fuck happened? Does the download set it up or does it have to be set up after it’s downloaded? The latter makes sense to me but, it is now telling me I already have it running without doing anything. So, why the instructions? I mean, C’mon! I have to go by what the writer writes, right? Since it tells me I have it up and running, where is it? I can’t find it. These instructions are telling me to insert the long Freemail address I was given. I was given? When? Where? I haven’t done anything yet but the directions jump from something I don’t want to do and didn’t do, to, “I’m up and running!” This is a joke right? It’s only for those who are IT smart, meaning very few, and anonymity will be shot on site. Just before it gets to THUNDERBIRD, it tells me, “Remember that the Freemail.jar program needs to be running whilst you are reading and sending emails. So, where is it? There is no window to put in any information. Perhaps if I could get some help,
