Re: [freenet-support] idea

2011-02-19 Thread Dennis Nezic
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:24:30 +0100, Edzard Pasma wrote:
> 
> Op 19-feb-2011, om 18:21 heeft folkert het volgende geschreven:
> 
> >>> Ok, that was not your point :-) Ok currently maybe not too many  
> >>> nodes
> >>> in the net but maybe this changes when governments restrict  
> >>> access to
> >>> what you can browse. Here in Europe governments already start  
> >>> talking
> >>> about installing filters.
> >>
> >> This is why you /don't/ want any kind of broadcasting, or any other
> >> kind of leak of identifiable traffic. Just encrypted
> >> non-identifiable "noise".
> >
> > Then we definately need a solution around the seed nodes. I mean  
> > traffic
> > going to them is a big fat warning that someone is doing freenet :-)
> >
> >
> > Folkert van Heusden
> 
> 
> The seednodes might then once be blocked by authorities in their  
> struggle against the evil. The solution seems to have as many  
> potential seednodes as their are users. Thus one automatically  
> becomes one after a while. The other way around, any foreigner is  
> then a potential seednode. Adddresses can dynamically be collected
> to be used at a next start.

Again, this is why darknet mode was implemented. There are no seednodes
in darknet, only friends you know and trust, and that cannot be
identified. (I believe Freenet 0.7 was intended to be a darknet, and
opennet (i.e. how Freenet 0.5 operates) was only later added to make
things easier for newbies.)
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Re: [freenet-support] idea

2011-02-19 Thread Edzard Pasma


Op 19-feb-2011, om 18:21 heeft folkert het volgende geschreven:

Ok, that was not your point :-) Ok currently maybe not too many  
nodes
in the net but maybe this changes when governments restrict  
access to
what you can browse. Here in Europe governments already start  
talking

about installing filters.


This is why you /don't/ want any kind of broadcasting, or any other
kind of leak of identifiable traffic. Just encrypted non-identifiable
"noise".


Then we definately need a solution around the seed nodes. I mean  
traffic

going to them is a big fat warning that someone is doing freenet :-)


Folkert van Heusden



The seednodes might then once be blocked by authorities in their  
struggle against the evil. The solution seems to have as many  
potential seednodes as their are users. Thus one automatically  
becomes one after a while. The other way around, any foreigner is  
then a potential seednode. Adddresses can dynamically be collected to  
be used at a next start.


Edzard Pasma.
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Re: [freenet-support] idea

2011-02-19 Thread folkert
> > Ok, that was not your point :-) Ok currently maybe not too many nodes
> > in the net but maybe this changes when governments restrict access to
> > what you can browse. Here in Europe governments already start talking
> > about installing filters.
> 
> This is why you /don't/ want any kind of broadcasting, or any other
> kind of leak of identifiable traffic. Just encrypted non-identifiable
> "noise".

Then we definately need a solution around the seed nodes. I mean traffic
going to them is a big fat warning that someone is doing freenet :-) 


Folkert van Heusden

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