Moses wrote:

> <x...@freenetproject.org> wrote:
>> On Thursday, April 21, 2016 03:20:07 PM Moses wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I trust my friend, but still not want them to see my IP directly on
>>> the freenet web page when I give them my noderef, how to prevent my IP
>>> display on their freenet?
>>
>> It is not technically possible to implement Darknet connections without
>> revealing IP addresses: The purpose of Darknet connections is to establish a
>> direct Internet connection between you and your friend, and direct 
>> connections
>> over the Internet work by using IP addresses.
[....]

> I trust my friends, I just want to hide my node's physical location
> and keep my little privacy/anonymity. That's different. And consider a
> extreme situation that if friends are questioned by police, If they do
> not know, they would have nothing to tell. The best way to keep a
> secret is not tell anybody. Anyway, if hide IP is not technically
> possible, I will have to use a VPN or not adding any friend...

Your reasoning is smart.
If you have the skills to run a Freenet node from a masked IP 
address,
more power to you.
Do not use Darknet though.

Darknet is good for a secure intranet with one individual, or a few 
you can trust
with your wallet and the keys to your house.

The big problem however is: you can't trust anyone.
For a simple reason: can you know what exactly you trust them with?
On top, the more people it's about, the more you should distrust 
them.

Say you've got one Freenet 'friend' you do trust with your IP 
address,
and it's no problem he can see much of what you do because you 
trust him.
But can you know what that trusted, for your business trusted 
friend does?
That friend you can actually trust and let him have the keys to 
your house?

Maybe he is doing completely unrelated, but dangerous things on 
other networks,
like bittorrent, maybe he does dangerous things on the open net.
Maybe he is doing something in real life that will have his 
computer confiscated.
You are in trouble too if his computer is not bulletproof LE 
resistant,
or if he hands down his passwords.
His friends connection may then be taken over by your friendly 
officer, and he
can now see way too much of you and everybody else in your 
'dark'net.
Effectively you have given the friendly officer the keys to your 
house now.

To connect to the 'big Freenet', in order to insert/download public 
files,
publish/visit freesites everybody can see, at least one of your 
'friends'
needs to connect to Opennet, the 'strangers' network.

If you are doing things LE wants to know badly, chances are good 
your darknet
will be infiltrated.

Darknet may seem more secure because traffic within a 'closed' 
darknet can
not easily be recognized as you running a Freenet node.
But this provides a false security because of the problems just 
described.
These problems do not exist on Opennet because you can not be 
recognized as
a real person, Frost/FMS/Sone identities can't be traced to your IP 
address.
Also, files you download/insert, freesites and messages can not be 
linked to your
identities by a third party. This is the good news on the 
distributed, decentralized
peer network Freenet is.
Freenet is pretty smart at hiding which node downloads a file, or 
inserts one.
In particular small files can't be traced because there is no time 
for an attacker
to 'see' it.


If you need anonymity, do not touch Darknet but stick to Opennet.
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