Re: [freenet-support] I Like the Idea but....
On Tuesday 01 December 2009 00:58:19 Tim Jones wrote: I think you need to publish a more user friendly description of the product and how it works. I am a fairly experienced PC/Windows user for many years and I made a career of data administration using technology. However, reading your website just makes my head spin much as trying to decipher Linux and trying to understand what advantages I gain from deploying freenet that is more and better than something like PGP or using proxies. Regardless of one's views of the relative merits of the software platforms (Windows, MacOS, Linux, etc) the fact remains that we do live in a MS Windows world and I think that describing your product relative to the Windows experience would go a long way towards enticing users to try your product. Personally, I think this approach of keeping the description and explanation cryptic and mystical has been the single block that Linux has embedded in the public perception and has drastically limited its adoption on a much larger scale. I see your product headed down that same road, a good if not outstanding product that is hamstrung by its own creators for lack of a focus on explaining the product to the prospective end-user base in a way that base can understand. I think developers lose sight of their audience when promoting their work and forget that the target audience (end-user) is largely ignorant of what goes on under the hood. Hopefully, you will take this message as constructive and not a nag. In either event it's my opinion and I hope you give it more than a little consideration. If you have time could you have a look at the current What is Freenet? page, I believe we have rewritten it somewhat since then. Thanks. http://freenetproject.org/whatis.html Best Regards, Tim Jones Sebring, Florida USA signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] I Like the Idea but....
I think you need to publish a more user friendly description Here is the mailing list archive: http://archives.freenetproject.org/list/support.en.html Best read it month by month, then you might get some answers to your question. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] I Like the Idea but....
I'm posting this for a friend who doesn't want to join the support list. On November 30, 2009, 7:58:19 PM, Tim Jones wrote: I think you need to publish a more user friendly description of the product and how it works. I am a fairly experienced PC/Windows user for many years and I made a career of data administration using technology. However, reading your website just makes my head spin much as trying to decipher Linux and trying to understand what advantages I gain from deploying freenet that is more and better than something like PGP or using proxies. The goal of Freenet, as I understand it, is to provide anonymous and secure communication among Freenet nodes, either restricted to closed groups, or open to all users. Freenet does not provide access to the internet, and is not accessible from the internet. In that sense, it's distinct from Tor, web proxies and various anonymity services. snip -- Best regards, Ichi mailto:i...@xerobank.net ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] I Like the Idea but....
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:58:19 -0500, Tim Jones wrote: I think you need to publish a more user friendly description of the product and how it works. I am a fairly experienced PC/Windows user for many years and I made a career of data administration using technology. However, reading your website just makes my head spin much as trying to decipher Linux and trying to understand what advantages I gain from deploying freenet that is more and better than something like PGP or using proxies. Regardless of one's views of the relative merits of the software platforms (Windows, MacOS, Linux, etc) the fact remains that we do live in a MS Windows world and I think that describing your product relative to the Windows experience would go a long way towards enticing users to try your product. Personally, I think this approach of keeping the description and explanation cryptic and mystical has been the single block that Linux has embedded in the public perception and has drastically limited its adoption on a much larger scale. I see your product headed down that same road, a good if not outstanding product that is hamstrung by its own creators for lack of a focus on explaining the product to the prospective end-user base in a way that base can understand. I think developers lose sight of their audience when promoting their work and forget that the target audience (end-user) is largely ignorant of what goes on under the hood. Hopefully, you will take this message as constructive and not a nag. In either event it's my opinion and I hope you give it more than a little consideration. Best Regards, Tim Jones Sebring, Florida USA I'm sure it's been said ad nauseum already, but I want to say it too! Simplicity (what you want) and complexity (what freenet is -- at least relative to insecure protocols) are mutually exclusive :P. People who can't understand things like PGP really shouldn't be using freenet. You can't have your cake (an assurance of security and anonymity) and eat it too (enjoy an effortless care-free newbie-friendly experience). That's just reality. (Head spinning (a.k.a. learning) is an essential requirement here. I would suggest having users do some kind of quiz in the installation wizard, and until they pass it, have the security level LOW :D.) ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] I Like the Idea but....
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:58:19 -0500, Tim Jones wrote: I think you need to publish a more user friendly description of the product and how it works. I am a fairly experienced PC/Windows user for Try to install it: http://freenetproject.org/download.html There is a minihowoto here: http://www.minihowto.org/freenet_minihowto/freenet a very short minihowto.html (a bit old - freenet is still being developed and still becomming easier to use) ### I am using linux, so I cannot help you about how freenet works in windows. When you have it installed go to: http://127.0.0.1: Then you can find more documentation by surfing freenet. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
[freenet-support] I Like the Idea but....
I think you need to publish a more user friendly description of the product and how it works. I am a fairly experienced PC/Windows user for many years and I made a career of data administration using technology. However, reading your website just makes my head spin much as trying to decipher Linux and trying to understand what advantages I gain from deploying freenet that is more and better than something like PGP or using proxies. Regardless of one's views of the relative merits of the software platforms (Windows, MacOS, Linux, etc) the fact remains that we do live in a MS Windows world and I think that describing your product relative to the Windows experience would go a long way towards enticing users to try your product. Personally, I think this approach of keeping the description and explanation cryptic and mystical has been the single block that Linux has embedded in the public perception and has drastically limited its adoption on a much larger scale. I see your product headed down that same road, a good if not outstanding product that is hamstrung by its own creators for lack of a focus on explaining the product to the prospective end-user base in a way that base can understand. I think developers lose sight of their audience when promoting their work and forget that the target audience (end-user) is largely ignorant of what goes on under the hood. Hopefully, you will take this message as constructive and not a nag. In either event it's my opinion and I hope you give it more than a little consideration. Best Regards, Tim Jones Sebring, Florida USA ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
