[freenet-support] VPN
Hello all, Simple question - Is it safe and secure to run freenet through a VPN? I use one of the major VPN services. Thanks___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] VPN
Le 27/03/2015 11:49, John Verney a écrit : Hello all, Simple question - Is it safe and secure to run freenet through a VPN? I use one of the major VPN services. Thanks ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe Hello, I'd say it is even more secure. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] VPN
It should be fine to use a vpn, though I have not tried it. I wonder what the downsides would be? A little extra latency shouldn’t matter. If you leave it on all the time maybe bandwidth costs? — Eric Chadbourne http://Nonprofit-CRM.org/ > On Mar 27, 2015, at 6:49 AM, John Verney wrote: > > Hello all, > > Simple question - > > Is it safe and secure to run freenet through a VPN? I use one of the major > VPN services. > > Thanks > ___ > Support mailing list > Support@freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] VPN
Le 27/03/2015 15:45, Eric Chadbourne a écrit : It should be fine to use a vpn, though I have not tried it. I wonder what the downsides would be? A little extra latency shouldn’t matter. If you leave it on all the time maybe bandwidth costs? — Eric Chadbourne http://Nonprofit-CRM.org/ On Mar 27, 2015, at 6:49 AM, John Verney wrote: Hello all, Simple question - Is it safe and secure to run freenet through a VPN? I use one of the major VPN services. Thanks ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe Hello, I didn't give any data about the vpn, but I'm using one with freenet (with everything, only from time to time changing my location), and it works perfectly. of course, depending on what vpn, the bandwidth may be smaller, I for my part am using proxpn, that has an unlimited bandwidth, no speed limit, one can also choose the port(s), including for mails (in and out) and adsl phone, on about a dozen places (Seattle, NY, Singapoor, Amsterdam, Sweden…) It costs me about 6.5 $ per month. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] VPN
Whether "a little extra latency" matters depends on how much this extra latency really is. Considering a request in Freenet may require >10 nodes to be traversed, latency adds up quickly, reducing already low network capacity for everyone. I don't expect much impact from a tiny extra bit of latency, e.g. if you live in Paris and your VPN provider were located in Amsterdam. Paris -> Singapore however would probably a bad idea and is definitely not something I would recommend for Freenet. A properly configured VPN connection transparently connects your computer to the public internet through an ISP that does not actually provide a cable into your home. That's all to it. In general, Freenet should work both functionally and securely over such a connection. The only downsides would be the (already mentioned) additional delay, as well as introducing yet another party that is able to monitor your internet traffic under a jurisdiction that does not necessarily have to be equal to yours. Here, "properly configured" means that at least the following criteria will have to be fulfilled (I may be missing some though): - Your machine should ideally be able to reliably determine its external IP - Your external IP should be relatively stable - Incoming UDP packets on the relevant ports must not be blocked, i.e. ports must be forwarded wherever necessary - Your average ping stays well below ~700 ms (but lower is definitely preferable!) In case your VPN connection comes with a dedicated IP, all security caveats for computers connecting to the internet directly (i.e. not behind a NAT router) may of course apply. -- Bert On 27-03-15 15:45, Eric Chadbourne wrote: > It should be fine to use a vpn, though I have not tried it. I wonder what > the downsides would be? A little extra latency shouldn’t matter. If you > leave it on all the time maybe bandwidth costs? > > — > Eric Chadbourne > http://Nonprofit-CRM.org/ > > >> On Mar 27, 2015, at 6:49 AM, John Verney wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> Simple question - >> >> Is it safe and secure to run freenet through a VPN? I use one of the major >> VPN services. >> >> Thanks signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] VPN
I assume you tech support for freeness? I have a problem that maybe you can help with, running a Mac OSX 10.10.2 confirmed install of Java 40 , when attempting to open freenet a message appears can not connect to server 127.0.0.1 Any suggestions? Thanks > On Mar 27, 2015, at 7:45 AM, Eric Chadbourne > wrote: > > It should be fine to use a vpn, though I have not tried it. I wonder what > the downsides would be? A little extra latency shouldn’t matter. If you > leave it on all the time maybe bandwidth costs? > > — > Eric Chadbourne > http://Nonprofit-CRM.org/ > > >> On Mar 27, 2015, at 6:49 AM, John Verney wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> Simple question - >> >> Is it safe and secure to run freenet through a VPN? I use one of the major >> VPN services. >> >> Thanks >> ___ >> Support mailing list >> Support@freenetproject.org >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support >> Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support >> Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > ___ > Support mailing list > Support@freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] VPN
Le 27/03/2015 17:50, ronald williams a écrit : I assume you tech support for freeness? I have a problem that maybe you can help with, running a Mac OSX 10.10.2 confirmed install of Java 40 , when attempting to open freenet a message appears can not connect to server 127.0.0.1 Any suggestions? Thanks Well, this is exactly doing the same to me, for quite a few months, saying it'll stop someday if no java update is made… just waiting to see if maybe it's a misreadding of freenet, since being also on Yosemite, Apple makes automatically the java updates and I've got the latest : java 8 rev 40 ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] VPN
On 03/27/2015 02:33 PM, Dsoslglece wrote: > Le 27/03/2015 17:50, ronald williams a écrit : >> I assume you tech support for freeness? I have a problem that >> maybe you can help with, running a Mac OSX 10.10.2 confirmed install >> of Java 40 , when attempting to open freenet a message appears can not >> connect to server 127.0.0.1 Any suggestions? Thanks > Well, this is exactly doing the same to me, for quite a few months, > saying it'll stop someday if no java update is made… just waiting to see > if maybe it's a misreadding of freenet, since being also on Yosemite, > Apple makes automatically the java updates and I've got the latest : > java 8 rev 40 Sounds like you have multiple versions of Java installed, and Freenet is not configured to use the latest. In wrapper.conf in the directory Freenet is installed to, is "wrapper.java.command" set to java? If you run java -version in a terminal does it give version 1.6? What happens if you change it to /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/JavaAppletPlugin.plugin/Contents/Home/bin/java - does that file exist, and if so does the warning go away? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
