Re: Connecting to internet via usb
Thanks guys. I entered the openDNS IP's into my phone's /etc/network/interfaces and after rebooting everything- lappy with phone disconnected a ping returned and I'm running an update... Now onto wifi! ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Couldn't find slash(/) key on the keyboard. How do navigate to various folders through terminal?
On 25 Jul 2008, at 09:30, bijoy franco wrote: ... Couldn't find slash(/) key on the keyboard. How do navigate to various folders through terminal? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_FAQ#How_do_I_enter_the_. 2F.2C_.7C_or_.3E_characters.3F or http://preview.tinyurl.com/5895fx Stroller. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Qemu - qemu-system-arm: No such file or directory
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 03:49 +0200, Joachim Steiger wrote: Jette Derriche wrote: Installed subversion, gcc 4.3, SDL-devel, lynx and netpbm. do you have gcc 3.4 or similar 3.x series installed as well? afaik qemu still needs that one since the dyngen code generator doesn't work with 4.x Then... # svn checkout https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973 # patch -p2 qemu-gcc4.patch # ./configure --target-list=arm-softmmu --disable-gcc-check # openmoko/download.sh # openmoko/flash.sh Failed: openmoko/flash.sh: line 80: /home/jde/Documents/linux/openmoko_qemu/qemu-neo1973/arm-softmmu/qemu-system-arm: No such file or directory sounds like no qemu binary got built... Any suggestions? my bets are on 'install gcc3.x and rebuild qemu' I just tried installing compat-gcc-34, but it didn't seem to help. Stille getting the same error. I'll search some more and se what I can find... any suggestions are greatl appreciated. /Jette ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: mkfs.vfat on 2007.02
Agreed - I'd update it if I knew how. However the problem as it stands currently is that there doesn't seem to be a package containing mkfs.vfat, or at least I can't find out what it is. Anyone? Aaron Alex Fitzpatrick wrote: arne anka wrote: pendency issue? well, you are now at well defined point of confusion :-) the issue has been discussed several times, do this: opkg -force-depends remove libncurses5 opkg install ncurses libncurses5 The problem and workaround should probably be documented in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Use_the_package_manager ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: WiFi GUI?
Good morning Thomas, I don't think it is included in the getting started page as the application only exists in a 3rd party repo. I don't think anyone would mind a note pointing new users to the application on the wiki, but a warning that it is not supported by the openmoko team should be added. Best Regards, Steven O'Reilly On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 01:41 -0500, Thomas Krahn wrote: included in (or linked to) the getting started page? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: mkfs.vfat on 2007.02
arne anka wrote: be a package containing mkfs.vfat, or at least I can't find out what it is. Anyone? well, deeply moved by your continued expressions of sorrow ;-) i decided to have a look That was the desired effect :) Thank you. JFTR, I did download the Debian dosfstools package for the ARM architecture, and copied the binaries across to /sbin on OpenMoko (I know, but worth a shot right?): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# /sbin/mkfs.vfat /dev/mmcblk0p1 -sh: /sbin/mkfs.vfat: not found Even though the file clearly existed. Aaron ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: REMOVE
2008/7/24 Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you figured out how to subscribe to the list, you should have no problem unsubscribing. https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support the problem is, no matter how many times people quote that wonderful link, it still doesn't work. have you tried clicking on it yourself? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: REMOVE
Try this one: http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support The https link doesn't work becasue it's using what appears to be a self-signed certificate for a different domain (sita.openmoko.org instead of lists.openmoko.org). You can either add an exception (if your browser will let you) or just deal with the fact that your list password will be send in the clear. - Michael On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Robin Paulson wrote: 2008/7/24 Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you figured out how to subscribe to the list, you should have no problem unsubscribing. https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support the problem is, no matter how many times people quote that wonderful link, it still doesn't work. have you tried clicking on it yourself? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Getting rid of pulseaudio? [was Re: Cannot play MP3 or OGG as ringtone on GTA02]
Am Dienstag 22 Juli 2008 03:19:24 schrieb Russell Sears: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Well, pulseaudio is great. Honestly, I love the concept, that's why I pushed it in to Openmoko in the first place. But alas, the current state is way unusable on our slow systems. Perhaps this will improve with the new branch, lets see. Until then, it's alsa dmix for me. i agree. pulse needs to get better first. still, dmix will bite us in the ass on the long run, since it has no concept of anything but static buffers, can nor handle fullduplex audio, or stream routing (its alsa after all). means moving playing audio from the bt headset to the line-out will never be possible with alsa only. doesn't matter. still enough other stuff to get working first, and in the end your apps should only use highlevel interfaces, and not need to tamper with alsa-interfaces anyways. so it is transparent and your app will do the same calls, regardless which underlying backend. Also, is GStreamer definitely in the future? I'm looking into fixed-point graphic equalizers; gstreamer seems to be a good place to add one. Absolutely. GStreamer is great and will be a vital part of the Openmoko framework. ack ;) The choices for adding new audio processing code seem to be adding a plugin to gstreamer, alsa or pulseaudio. If you want to maximize performance, go alsa. If you want to maximize reusing, go GStreamer. since alsa is hw-abstraction only, not stream routing, not stream processing (besides of in and output) and doesn't have any sane framework for stuff like equalizers (or any software based signal processing) i would recommend gstreamer for that. alsa should stay what it is. a driver framework. adding more layering violations doesn't help (and would hinder pushing stuff upstream in the long run) -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: mkfs.vfat on 2007.02
Aaron Sowry wrote: However the problem as it stands currently is that there doesn't seem to be a package containing mkfs.vfat, or at least I can't find out what it is. Anyone? It's in dosfstools. You can bitbake it yourself with OE/MokoMakefile or download one that I've built from http://members.shaw.ca/mmontour/neo/dosfstools_2.11-r0_armv4t.ipk Note that the Booting from SD wiki page is out of date. The newest u-boot images (20080723 or newer) are able to load the kernel from ext2/3 so you don't need a FAT partition any more. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Flashing the Kernel got me locked out of my FreeRunner
Greetings, Last weekend after receiving my new phone I tried to flash the Kernal. The DFU connection was made and the flash appeared to be going normally when I suddenly stopped and sent me a message that there was not enough room to update with the download. I had been able to make incoming and outgoing phone calls before that. Now all I get when I use reboot from the boot screen is the openmoko logo. I tried many different suggestions from this forum but none of them would recognize the downloads anymore. Perhaps I can access my phone if I knew how to change to it's root user. That happened once but I don't no how or why it happened. I dearlly want to work with this phone but I'm totally at a loss to explain it's behavior and I'm not sure what steps to take next. Do I need to let the original vendor send me a new phone with a clean update? I'm afraid if I do not find a solution this weekend that will be my only alternative. Please help. Sincerly, Oliver Brown ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: mkfs.vfat on 2007.02
I don't know why on wiki is ncurses package... ncurses has nothing to do with mkfs.vfat... nope. but with opkg upgrade -- and he was experiencing the problem while trying to get mkfs.vfat. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Qtopia vs ASU
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 04:16:08AM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: Aaron Sowry wrote: At the risk of sounding completely ignorant, what is the difference between the 'Qtopia' images and the ASU images? Are the Qtopia images open-source? ASU is the hybrid ELF/ with parts from Qtopia running on X11 environment that Openmoko is developing. Qtopia is the phone gui that is developed by Trolltech, a Nokia Company. Qtopia is open source and released under the GPL. I think the question was: what's the difference between the Qtopia *images* and the ASU images. IIRC, the ASU images use X, even the Qtopia apps on the ASU image use X, but the Qtopia images do not have X, so the apps on the Qtopia image write directly to a framebuffer. So the ASU is OpenMoko's port of Trolltech's Qtopia, to run on X. Apps on the pure-Qtopia image have to be specially written in order to run on the Qtopia image, to deal with the frame buffer. I'd also guess that'd mean that the apps are faster, since X performs like an arthritic snail. I'm not sure where the Qtopia image comes from either. Does it come from Trolltech? The ASU image comes from OpenMoko. Because the ASU uses X, then all kinds of other apps using other toolkits (Gnome, ETK, etc.) can co-exist beside the Qtopia apps on the ASU image. Example: I'm using the openmoko-terminal2 (which appears to be GTK), on ASU, alongside the excellent Qtopia apps. There's this too: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions -ken ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: mkfs.vfat on 2007.02
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Aaron Sowry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johny Tenfinger wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 18:09, Mike Montour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Sowry wrote: However the problem as it stands currently is that there doesn't seem to be a package containing mkfs.vfat, or at least I can't find out what it is. Anyone? It's in dosfstools. You can bitbake it yourself with OE/MokoMakefile or download one that I've built from http://members.shaw.ca/mmontour/neo/dosfstools_2.11-r0_armv4t.ipk Note that the Booting from SD wiki page is out of date. The newest u-boot images (20080723 or newer) are able to load the kernel from ext2/3 so you don't need a FAT partition any more. I don't know why on wiki is ncurses package... ncurses has nothing to do with mkfs.vfat... ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support I wondered the same thing actually... how does one subscribe themselves to be able to edit the wiki? I couldn't figure it out... Aaron ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support create an account left upper corner of every wiki page http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Special:Userlogintype=signupreturnto=Main_Page ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Qtopia vs ASU
Ken Restivo wrote: On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 04:16:08AM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: Aaron Sowry wrote: At the risk of sounding completely ignorant, what is the difference between the 'Qtopia' images and the ASU images? Are the Qtopia images open-source? ASU is the hybrid ELF/ with parts from Qtopia running on X11 environment that Openmoko is developing. Qtopia is the phone gui that is developed by Trolltech, a Nokia Company. Qtopia is open source and released under the GPL. I think the question was: what's the difference between the Qtopia *images* and the ASU images. IIRC, the ASU images use X, even the Qtopia apps on the ASU image use X, but the Qtopia images do not have X, so the apps on the Qtopia image write directly to a framebuffer. So the ASU is OpenMoko's port of Trolltech's Qtopia, to run on X. Apps on the pure-Qtopia image have to be specially written in order to run on the Qtopia image, to deal with the frame buffer. I'd also guess that'd mean that the apps are faster, since X performs like an arthritic snail. I'm not sure where the Qtopia image comes from either. Does it come from Trolltech? The ASU image comes from OpenMoko. Because the ASU uses X, then all kinds of other apps using other toolkits (Gnome, ETK, etc.) can co-exist beside the Qtopia apps on the ASU image. Example: I'm using the openmoko-terminal2 (which appears to be GTK), on ASU, alongside the excellent Qtopia apps. There's this too: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions -ken ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support Thanks for clearing that up - I've just finished flashing my phone with the Qtopia images and it's fairly slick actually, I think you're right about X at least in the mobile realm. The Qtopia image does indeed come from Trolltech, pardon me if this has been discussed already but does anyone know how to install additional packages on Qtopia? Aaron ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Qtopia vs ASU
Ken Restivo wrote: On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 04:16:08AM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: Aaron Sowry wrote: At the risk of sounding completely ignorant, what is the difference between the 'Qtopia' images and the ASU images? Are the Qtopia images open-source? ASU is the hybrid ELF/ with parts from Qtopia running on X11 environment that Openmoko is developing. Qtopia is the phone gui that is developed by Trolltech, a Nokia Company. Qtopia is open source and released under the GPL. I think the question was: what's the difference between the Qtopia *images* and the ASU images. IIRC, the ASU images use X, even the Qtopia apps on the ASU image use X, but the Qtopia images do not have X, so the apps on the Qtopia image write directly to a framebuffer. So the ASU is OpenMoko's port of Trolltech's Qtopia, to run on X. Apps on the pure-Qtopia image have to be specially written in order to run on the Qtopia image, to deal with the frame buffer. I'd also guess that'd mean that the apps are faster, since X performs like an arthritic snail. I'm not sure where the Qtopia image comes from either. Does it come from Trolltech? The ASU image comes from OpenMoko. Yes, it comes from Trolltech ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H Nokia to support the Qtopia Neo sdk. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Qtopia vs ASU
Aaron Sowry wrote: Ken Restivo wrote: On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 04:16:08AM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: Aaron Sowry wrote: At the risk of sounding completely ignorant, what is the difference between the 'Qtopia' images and the ASU images? Are the Qtopia images open-source? ASU is the hybrid ELF/ with parts from Qtopia running on X11 environment that Openmoko is developing. Qtopia is the phone gui that is developed by Trolltech, a Nokia Company. Qtopia is open source and released under the GPL. I think the question was: what's the difference between the Qtopia *images* and the ASU images. IIRC, the ASU images use X, even the Qtopia apps on the ASU image use X, but the Qtopia images do not have X, so the apps on the Qtopia image write directly to a framebuffer. So the ASU is OpenMoko's port of Trolltech's Qtopia, to run on X. Apps on the pure-Qtopia image have to be specially written in order to run on the Qtopia image, to deal with the frame buffer. I'd also guess that'd mean that the apps are faster, since X performs like an arthritic snail. I'm not sure where the Qtopia image comes from either. Does it come from Trolltech? The ASU image comes from OpenMoko. Because the ASU uses X, then all kinds of other apps using other toolkits (Gnome, ETK, etc.) can co-exist beside the Qtopia apps on the ASU image. Example: I'm using the openmoko-terminal2 (which appears to be GTK), on ASU, alongside the excellent Qtopia apps. There's this too: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions -ken ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support Thanks for clearing that up - I've just finished flashing my phone with the Qtopia images and it's fairly slick actually, I think you're right about X at least in the mobile realm. The Qtopia image does indeed come from Trolltech, pardon me if this has been discussed already but does anyone know how to install additional packages on Qtopia? There are only a few packages in the feed right now. It is only me compiling stuff I find, and I have other duties as well. http://qtopia.net/packages/feed/4.3.2/neo -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Someone from Bangalore can help me to flash qtopia into my freerunner....
Hi Bijoy, You could also try the dfu-util for Windows tool: http://wiki.openmoko.org/Dfu-util-windows. I successfully compiled it a few weeks ago and would appreciate feedback on whether people are able to successfully use it or not. I have only tested it on the FreeRunner connected to a Windows XP machine. I would appreciate reports back on what other versions of Windows it works on as well. Cheers, Andrew Felix Mahnke wrote: First, sorry for that blank mail. :) Hi Bijoy, if there's noone around near your city, you could give it a try by yourself without scrambling your PC by using a live linux (ubuntu for example). Put the files you need for flashing (dfu-util, kernel image, rootfs image) on an sd-card or usb-stick. open a shell, navigate to your card/stick/whatever and continue the wiki-instructions for flashing the phone from there. I haven't tried that yet, but I couldn't imagine a reason why it shouldn't work. Also if you want to use the freerunner almost everything is much easier (or even possible) if you are familiar with the linux shell. So you should first get some basic skills there, i suggest. regards, Felix 2008/7/25 Felix Mahnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/7/25 bijoy franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Someone from Bangalore can help me to flash qtopia into my freerunner Thanks Bijoy +91-9731006221 ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org mailto:support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Bricked Freerunner
I just learned that I may have a damaged or totally discharged battery. I've been having severe problems with my new freerunner after a failed kernel flash. The phone said that there was not enough room in the partition. I'm trying a new battery and it is charging now. It must charge for the first time un-touched for 12 hours. Is it possible to Brick a new Freerunner or is there a safe boot image some where in the phone? Thank you. Oliver Brown ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Qtopia vs ASU
Lorn Potter wrote: There are only a few packages in the feed right now. It is only me compiling stuff I find, and I have other duties as well. http://qtopia.net/packages/feed/4.3.2/neo How do I install these packages? is there an opkg equivalent? ie download the qpd/qpk and install from terminal, or can it only be installed if I setup the package installer to point to this site? Thanks. Jim -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: neod and pusleaudio -- evil tandem? ;-)
I'm trying to improve mediaplayer, and a big part of that is improving performance. If you figure out why pulseaudio eats 6% CPU, that'd be great! Also, it mysteriously eats much more than that when music is being played back. My theory is that it's doing unnecessary signal resampling and int-float-int conversions. Having mediaplayer bypass pulseaudio and talk directly to alsa saves a lot of CPU. It's probably some sort of misconfiguration. This bug might be relevant: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1614 If neod is using gstreamer, switching to ALSA might be trivial. It was a one line patch to switch mediaplayer from Pulse to ALSA. -Rusty Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: ok -- missing sound... it seems that pulseaudio doesn't loose any socket connection after resume -- it still gets those inputs from the screen, lsof is the same prior and post suspend, but no sound. also according to dumps of alsactl before and after resume nothing changes and they correspond to stereoout.state where else to look? and then I have the same problem with loosing sound after resume -- (I simply have dim/lock PM strategy on) -- pulseaudio goes busy for a few seconds after resume, and then sounds are gone (no tapping sound no ringing sound -- just vibration). And that of cause removes pulseaudio from the list of 'busy' processes although pulseaudio is still running (neod remains as busy as before 9-10% CPU). Restart of pulseaudio and then x-server (to have dialer/today reconnected to pulseaudio) helps until next suspend (and they both again run at those 16% CPU ;-)) So -- any ideas? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Can not SSH anymore
Hi Yaroslav thanks for the info but it did not work Cheers JK Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: try on freerunner: ifdown usb0 ifup usb0 (then route shouldn't be empty any longer) on computer: restart usb interface and be happy On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, JohnMKlein wrote: I am a 70 year old Linux newbie Used Linux cd on windows. Was sshing had logged in manually to get setup several days ago. Than switched to windows putty winscp. Learning- doing and getting along fine. I way over reached in code mucking. Now only way I can get in is using terminal mode on freerunner Below info maybe be helpful to anyone who can help me. From (my computer running cd Linux) # ping -I usb0 192.168.0.202 we get message Host Unreachable When I run iwconfig from freerunner terminal get the following: lo no wireless extensions usb0 no wireless extensions eth0 Ar6000 802.11g……….. /sbin/route from freerunner gives me no ip addresses at all. I do have the full qwerty keyboard on freerunner so I can in theory enter all characters needed if I don't shake too much. So if I could get my ssh back I'd be a happy camper. Cheers John ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: keyboard
try follow step: cd /tmp mkdir matchbox-keyboard cd matchbox-keyboard wget http://www.ginguppin.de/files/keyboard-ipk.tar.bz2 this is important tar -jxf keyboard-ipk.tar.bz2 opkg remove -force-depends multitap-pad opkg install matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod*.ipk opkg install matchbox-keyboard-im*.ipk opkg install matchbox-keyboard-applet*.ipk cd .. rm -rf matchbox-keyboard maybe the keyboard you want rocco scaccia wrote: I inputed the opkg remove -force-depends multitap-pad opkg install matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod opkg install matchbox-keyboard-im opkg install matchbox-keyboard-applet It now comes back as NOT INSTALLED. I have no keyboard at all on the terminal section i cant input anything at all Rocky --- On Fri, 7/25/08, xiangfu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: xiangfu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: keyboard To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Support for Openmoko Device Owners support@lists.openmoko.org Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 8:28 PM more information ,like ROOTFS? rocco scaccia wrote: Now on the terminal i cant get a keyboard at all HELP ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
