Re: [SHR] - import contacts

2008-12-16 Thread Karthik Kumar
Hi,

I write all my contacts to a text file, and I use a script to convert
them to VCF files for a wide variety of uses (Outlook, Openmoko
2007.2/2008.x/Qtopia/ My other mobile phone)

The VCF can be imported by using that python script, or by sending it
as a param to qtopia-addressbook app. You can try using the python
script to copy the contacts from sim as VCF file.

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Tomasz Sekściński
 wrote:
> Hi!
>
> How can i import contacts from sim/file?
> Is this possible or should i simply write it by hand?
> Is openmoko-contacts keep contacts in file? like contacts.db or
> something?
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[SHR] - import contacts

2008-12-16 Thread Tomasz Sekściński
Hi!

How can i import contacts from sim/file?
Is this possible or should i simply write it by hand?
Is openmoko-contacts keep contacts in file? like contacts.db or
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Re: gsm firmware flashing not working

2008-12-16 Thread genesis

whats the address for the IRC ?

actually I looked for the FSO console image at FSO's site 
got it installed it. no kernel issues this time. 
proceded to update the firmware this time was successfull

now I just need to put a new OS image on see if my sim card is working
fingers crossed
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Re: gsm firmware flashing not working

2008-12-16 Thread Sargun Dhillon
Join the IRC if you can.
Make sure nothing is accessing your modem. You can do that by checking
fuser -v /dev/ttySAC0. Also, try debian.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 5:57 PM, genesis  wrote:
>
> I just bought my Neo Freerunner and have a ATT 3g sim card 71234G which is
> not working
>
> came with qtopia on it but flashed it with OM 2008.9
>
> tried following the GSM/Flash guide and putting the FSO console image on
> though that likes to kernel panic
>
> tried various options with fluid using no flow control,-oo and trying
> different baud rate.
>
> appreciate some help
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gsm firmware flashing not working

2008-12-16 Thread genesis

I just bought my Neo Freerunner and have a ATT 3g sim card 71234G which is
not working 

came with qtopia on it but flashed it with OM 2008.9

tried following the GSM/Flash guide and putting the FSO console image on 
though that likes to kernel panic 

tried various options with fluid using no flow control,-oo and trying
different baud rate. 

appreciate some help
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Re: SHR - Cannot receive SMS

2008-12-16 Thread Leonti Bielski
It happens to me only when the framework is not registered to the
network. Just wait for the GSm bars and it should be fine.

Leonti

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Paul  wrote:
> Also, this is the error from opening my messages.
>
> Error Signal Information:
>openmoko-messages was interrupted by a Segmentation Fault.
>
> Output Data:
>There was no output
>
> Error Logs:
>There was no error message
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Paul  wrote:
>> Anyone know how I would go about finding out why my SMS hangs on
>> receiving an SMS?
>>
>> When it happens I can't even read my messages.
>>
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Re: SHR - Keyboard

2008-12-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:28:09 -0500 Paul  babbled:

> Is there a way to make the keyboard pop up on demand, say for the terminal?

yes. the terminal can put a property on its window stating what the state of
the keyboard for that window should be :)

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Re: NTP

2008-12-16 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Friday 28 November 2008 11:09:32 schrieb Arthur Marsh:
> Bastian Feder wrote, on 28/11/08 20:06:
> > Hi,
> > I'll find it very sexy if it were possible to get the time from the
> > GPS signal, too. (in case there is no network available)
> >
> > Any thoughts about that done by anyone?
>
> Doesn't the GSM network also send time information?

Yes, but only few operators send it.

> Does the GSM module 
> in the Neo 1973 / Freerunner support getting such information?

Yes, however see above.

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Re: NTP

2008-12-16 Thread Arthur Marsh
Bastian Feder wrote, on 28/11/08 20:06:
> Hi,
> I'll find it very sexy if it were possible to get the time from the
> GPS signal, too. (in case there is no network available)
> 
> Any thoughts about that done by anyone?

Doesn't the GSM network also send time information? Does the GSM module 
in the Neo 1973 / Freerunner support getting such information?

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Re: can't flash NAND

2008-12-16 Thread marros

I guess, just like how luch goes, right after posting a question, I find the
answer on line. I was booting into the NOR boot menu, not the NAND boot
menu...my changes where there, the image boots up...everything is happy!

:-D



marros wrote:
> 
> I have followed the instructions on the wiki to add or change an entry in
> the boot menu, but after I save the env (saveenv) nothing has been added
> or changed. Any thoughts anyone? The version of U-Boot is 1.3.2-moko12
> (May  9 2008 - 10:28:48). The reason for this is to boot Om2008.9 which
> needs the ro option removed from the boot parms.
> 
> Thanks
> 

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SHR - Keyboard

2008-12-16 Thread Paul
Is there a way to make the keyboard pop up on demand, say for the terminal?


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Re: Sad Story

2008-12-16 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Karthik Kumar  wrote:
>
> So, this kernel fix is a feature, according to Al Johnson? Then why do
> they need a hardware fix? Unless I am missing something, this software
> fix seems to be a lie. Or the hardware fix seems to be bogus anyway. I
> have one of the earlier freerunners released, so I'm sure Openmoko
> owes an explanation.
>

You're missing a few things, but not laziness or stupidity.

My freerunner has had every hardware problem except the WSOD. It can
used as a daily phone with a little work.

1) GPS

Openmoko found 2 solutions to this one. One hardware and on software.
Mine only has the software fix but works as well any any other
unassisted GPS.

2) BUZZ

Openmoko found a hardware solution. I really hope you attempt this one.

3) Suspend and resume.

Openmoko has solved the kernel issues with this one. A few more
userland fixes and it should be rock solid.

4) Echo

Numerous community solutions. You probably won't find this one as it
takes some research and a little tweaking depending one Freerunner
model and cell provider.

5) bug 666

Openmoko fixed in GSM firmware

6) bug 1024

Openmoko is working on it. Community found a work around. Power
consupmtion is slightly higher but perfectly workable.

7) WSOD

Fixes in Andy's kernel

8) battery discharging even when plugged in

Openmoko working on it ( maybe already fixed in new kernels )

9) unable to boot with discharged battery

Numerous work arounds

If your complaint isn't on this list file a bug. If it is quit
whinning do some research and possibly contribute to the community.

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can't flash NAND

2008-12-16 Thread marros

I have followed the instructions on the wiki to add or change an entry in the
boot menu, but after I save the env (saveenv) nothing has been added or
changed. Any thoughts anyone? The version of U-Boot is 1.3.2-moko12 (May  9
2008 - 10:28:48). The reason for this is to boot Om2008.9 which needs the ro
option removed from the boot parms.

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Re: SHR - Cannot receive SMS

2008-12-16 Thread Paul
Also, this is the error from opening my messages.

Error Signal Information:
openmoko-messages was interrupted by a Segmentation Fault.

Output Data:
There was no output

Error Logs:
There was no error message


On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Paul  wrote:
> Anyone know how I would go about finding out why my SMS hangs on
> receiving an SMS?
>
> When it happens I can't even read my messages.
>

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Re: SHR - Cannot receive SMS

2008-12-16 Thread Yorick Moko
paul: save your logs and post them on their trac;
or join #openmoko-cdevel on IRC and ask it to someone like Ainulindale

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Paul  wrote:
> Anyone know how I would go about finding out why my SMS hangs on
> receiving an SMS?
>
> When it happens I can't even read my messages.
>
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SHR - Cannot receive SMS

2008-12-16 Thread Paul
Anyone know how I would go about finding out why my SMS hangs on
receiving an SMS?

When it happens I can't even read my messages.

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Re: Stable Upgrade Anytime Soon?

2008-12-16 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/12/15 Marcus Stong :
> It's been over a month now that opkg upgrade has produced nothing
> whatsoever. I know the "back to basics" are being worked on, but does anyone
> know how long until something makes it to the stable feed?

I have no idea, but hopefully Openmoko would make the current testing
the new stable soon. The daily testing images are working quite well
at the moment. But maybe the idea is to make the switch to 2.6.28
(andy-tracking) kernel first, which also works quite great except for
the fact that the user software has been partially setup to use old
device names so those changes should go in first.

Anyway, no information has been had except for the next year's Om2009
release - but what's the word on Om2008.12, I do not know :(

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Re: Other possible Echo Cause

2008-12-16 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 16 December 2008, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> Paul  writes:
> > http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1486414|a1518726
>
> Could somebody please send me the message-id of this message or
> alternatively a link that works without javascript? I only get empty
> page in midori and starting firefox takes a long time.

http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-November/036068.html

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Re: Other possible Echo Cause

2008-12-16 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Paul  writes:
> http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1486414|a1518726

Could somebody please send me the message-id of this message or
alternatively a link that works without javascript? I only get empty
page in midori and starting firefox takes a long time.



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Re: FSO & Android (was: Sad Story)

2008-12-16 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Please don't mix teams, distributions, and efforts.

FSO is an initiative building a dbus-based framework for mobile devices, 100% 
funded by Openmoko. The FSO team evolved out of Openmoko's Framework Team.
FSO provides a dbus API and a reference implementation that is supposed to run 
on as many devices as we can manage -- including the GTA's, but also a lot of 
non-Openmoko devices.

Openmoko 2008.x is a distribution, which does not include the new framework, 
since Qtopia is the framework used there. Openmoko 2009.x will be a 
distribution including the FSO framework.

A personal remark: With all these semiopen initiatives going live, I see 
Openmoko being more and more important for free software, not less.
At the end of the day, OM is still only free open mobile communications 
platform(*) out there -- and I don't see that changing soon.

Cheers,
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them. What use is a software that I can not put on my closed device? Likewise 
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Re:Stable Upgrade Anytime Soon?

2008-12-16 Thread Martin Lefkowitz
Can anybody tell me the right distribution to use if;

1.  I want to be able to sync contacts and calendar with my desktop 
(preferably windows)
2.  I want to be able to use bluetooth with multiple devices
3.  I want to be able to use WiFi easily

Thanks

Marty

> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:53:47 -0500
> From: "Marcus Stong" 
>
>
> It's been over a month now that opkg upgrade has produced nothing
> whatsoever. I know the "back to basics" are being worked on, but does anyone
> know how long until something makes it to the stable feed? I know part of my
> frustration relating to me venting on the whole "sad story" thread has been
> partially because it really seems like nothing is happening. I realize
> there's a testing feed, but I don't really have the time to go through all
> the steps to make it work for a while.
>
> I don't see why it's taking so long to pass anything to the stable feed.
> It's not like it's really stable to begin with, so there isn't much to lose.
> The dialer crashes, suspend freezes, and there's low call volume using FDOM
> or OM2008.9. I really would like to see a carrot dangled in front of my
> nose... that's always been the fun with this phone, and there haven't been
> too many carrots lately.
>
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Re: SHR - GPRS

2008-12-16 Thread Paul
Thank you everyone for your reply.  I did get it working yesterday but
was away from my computer to reply.

I believe the modprobe resolved the issue.

I will be hitting up the list for more SHR questions.

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Al Johnson
 wrote:
> On Monday 15 December 2008, Paul wrote:
>> Thank you for your response.
>>
>> I honestly do not know where to begin.  I am not receiving an error,
>> it's just not connecting.  I did try the internet and it is not
>> connecting.
>
> fso-config-util.py just provides a GUI that passes parameters to
> org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP.ActivateContext() and shows the output of the
> ContextStatus signal, in your case 'release'. I should probably make it more
> human-readable, but in the meantime you can find an explanation at
> http://docs.freesmartphone.org
>
> You should be able to enable logging for fso in /etc/frameworkd.conf if it
> isn't enabled already. After restarting frameworkd (reboot is easiest) you
> should be able to see debug output using logread -f.
>
> It may be worth checking the thread "[SHR] GPRS / FATAL: Error inserting
> ppp_mppe" on the community list as it seems to be covering similar ground.
>
> What's this about an extra number that you need to enter? Is there a
> documentation page you can point us to?
>
>> I downloaded a copy of fso-config-util.py, I am uncertain if there is
>> an official version of it.
>
> http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/tools/fso/fso-config-util.py
>
> Unless someone's made an updated version I don't know about ;-)
>
>> Is there an official howto for SHR?  Has anyone gotten to work with AT&T?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:36 PM, D. Gassen  wrote:
>> > Hm, I'm on FSO (somewhat close to FSO, I'm a bit scared to update ;-))
>> > but I get the same error message in the logs. However, gprs works fine
>> > with me (T-Mobile, USA).
>> >
>> > Have you checked if GPRS is working despite this error message?
>> >
>> > Dirk
>> >
>> > On 15.12.2008, at 14:16, Paul wrote:
>> >> I know there are reports that GPRS does work with SHR.
>> >>
>> >> I've download the fso-config-util.py script and edited my apn
>> >> settings, although for cingular/at&t, there is another number its
>> >> supposed to dial but no place to put it in the script.  When I hit
>> >> connect, it just says, release.
>> >>
>> >> Any advice?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance.
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Re: FSO & Android (was: Sad Story)

2008-12-16 Thread Paul
Wolfgang,

Thank you for your reply.  I now understand the situation better.

My previous impression was that FSO and OM had a significantly
different code base and not terribly compatible with each other.

In any case, I am still hopeful for OM.  The usability team, I felt,
was exactly what OM needed to bring the phone closer to being a phone.
 But alas and alack.

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Re: Other possible Echo Cause

2008-12-16 Thread Paul
I made the switch to SHR to test out how things are.  The echo problem
is resolved with the following patch

http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1486414|a1518726

Now there was the annoying buzz to rectify.  This worked perfectly for me.

http://www.mail-archive.com/support@lists.openmoko.org/msg00564.html

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Al Johnson
 wrote:
> On Monday 15 December 2008, Paul wrote:
>> > It's possible, but the buzz is within the voice frequency range. If we
>> > could characterise the buzz sufficiently it may be possible to remove it
>> > by applying a suitable digital filter in the CPU, but a hardware fix is
>> > certainly preferable.
>>
>> I was thinking a software noise gate would be preferable since it
>> requires less computing.  Also, anyone tried sound proofing the mic
>> with sound insulating foam to prevent the sound from traveling through
>> the phone?
>
> There's a noise gate in the Wolfson chip, but I never managed to get it
> working. The functions in the GSM chipset sound like a noise gate in
> operation too. A better low-computing method might be to monitor the GSM
> output and mute the mic if there is significant signal there. This approach
> is used by some VoIP handsets ad is very effective at preventing echo, but
> can be awkward as the other end can't hear when you interrupt them ;-)
>
> The mic has rubber around it which seals the gap between the mic and the case.
> I haven't tried modifying this.
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Re: Other possible Echo Cause

2008-12-16 Thread Tom Yates
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, Paul wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 1:32 AM, Lon Lentz  wrote:
>>
>>   Is the echo still an issue when people are using the earbud headphone/mics
>> that come with the phone?
>
> That is an excellent point.  I do not believe the earbuds work on mine
> (Om2008.9), I tried it a while back.  How do I get this working?

i got mine working with 
http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#Headset .


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