Glamo + Debian (official)
I've successfully installed Debian on my microSD using the official install script. In an attempt to get the glamo running under Debain I followed the instructions at [1] to the letter, using Xglamo and Xfbdev from the 2008.08 image. I did not modify xorg.conf. After rebooting the touchscreen doesn't work, and the X logfiles show no mention of Glamo. Has anyone got this working? Aaron [1]http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manual_Debian#For_X_applications_.2F_xserver_on_the_Freerunner ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Dead battery
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 20:17 +0200, Konstantin wrote: Andy Green wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I have completely drained my battery to the point where the Freerunner | will not boot and hence I cannot charge it. I don't know if that is relevant, but some days ago, I think I had a dead battery, too (freerunner shut down, didn's start via the power button or by connecting the charger), and for me, it helped to start into NOR (which surprisingly worked) and then boot from there. The FR started up and began charging and worked happily ever after... :) In case anyone else has the same problem, the above solution worked for me. I booted into NOR, then selected 'boot' which seemed to start the phone up - at which point I very hastily plugged the phone in and let it charge. Thanks, Aaron ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Dead battery
I have completely drained my battery to the point where the Freerunner will not boot and hence I cannot charge it. From the Wiki: Make sure that the battery never discharges completely. This is an issue because the internal charging circuitry can not be turned on until the FreeRunner has booted, and booting through USB power alone does not work. (If you have the newest kernel images, you should be safe due to a software fix.) I was using the latest Qtopia image so assume I have the newest kernel images as well, but I still have no idea how to get my phone booting again in the absence of an external charger or a second battery. Ideas anyone? Aaron ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Official Debian port with FSO
Well I have no SD-Reader so I try to do it by ssh with: ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'cd ; tar czvf - *' | cat debian_image.tar.gz I dunno if this works they way you want it but I'll upload it if it's ready and you can test it. I don't think (correct me if I'm wrong, can't say I've used tar like that before) that will give you a true image, i.e. including partition tables and such. You could use 'dd' along the following lines in your SSH command: dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 of=debian_image.iso bs=512 The resulting ISO should compress down a reasonable amount (especially if the Debian install doesn't consume all of the SD card, not sure how much it takes up as I haven't tried it) for downloading over the internet, the only problem is that you'd need to use an image taken from the same sized card as the one you're flashing it to. Aaron ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Qtopia post-mortem
Aaron Sowry wrote: Hi, I have just now flashed my Freerunner with today's [August 5th] uboot and the latest Qtopia uImage and rootfs available from their website. After flashing it boots up fine, and I run 'opkg update' followed by 'opkg upgrade' which results in a lengthy process but seems to complete successfully. After a reboot, everything seems to go fine right up until the point which the Qtopia GUI tries to load I'm going to continue this issue under a more descriptive heading because it is a reproducible bug. Running the qpe process directly (bypassing the init script which gets stuck in a rather uninformative infinite loop) results in the following error: qpe: symbol lookup error: /opt/Qtopia/lib/libqtopiapim.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN11QListWidget9dropEventEP10QDropEvent I'm going to take a stab in the dark here and suggest that this seems to be some kind of ABI breakage caused by an upgrade to some package, but I have no idea which one. I will peruse the source and see if I can narrow it down. In the meantime has anyone done an 'opkg upgrade' on their Qtopia image recently without it breaking like this? Conversely, has anyone else experienced the same thing and can confirm it's not just me doing something dumb? Aaron ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
arne anka wrote: The problem I now have is that I am unable to get usb0 recognized as an interface by ifconfig. The command: ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 results in SIOCSIFADDR: No such device usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device there was a bug in one of the last u-boots, that broke about 50% of usb connections I know Ubuntu handles interfaces in a weird way and references them by MAC address. If Arne's suggestion doesn't help, run 'sudo ifconfig -a' at the terminal and post the output, along with the contents of /etc/iftab - you might find that the interface is not even called usb0. Aaron ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Uboot
I've found the daily u-boot images at http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080805/ Which one do I use? There are 3 versions for the gta02v5 - what is the difference? Aaron ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Uboot
There are 3 versions for the gta02v5 - what is the difference? apparently the creation date. Naw... they're the same creation date, the only difference seems to be the `1.3.1+gitr`[22|26|30] part of the filename. I've just flashed the 'latest' one anyway - Andy Green mentioned it could be related to the build problems lately. Side note - the reason I'm flashing is because after doing an opkg update/upgrade on the Qtopia distro, it will no longer boot. It gets to the point where it looks like it should be loading up the GUI (tiny blinking cursor in the top left, nothing else on the screen) and hangs there. Anyone else had this problem? Aaron p.s. doesn't look like flashing u-boot helped either :( ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Qt on Qtopia and FSO
I am looking at starting development of a few simple apps in Qt, however until the other builds are more stable I would prefer to use the Trolltech Qtopia image to test and develop on. However I'm slightly concerned that if I do this then these apps won't work on FSO when it is released. Does anyone know the caveats here I should be taking into consideration regarding D-Bus, X and anything else I'm not aware of? Aaron ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: mkfs.vfat on 2007.02
Agreed - I'd update it if I knew how. However the problem as it stands currently is that there doesn't seem to be a package containing mkfs.vfat, or at least I can't find out what it is. Anyone? Aaron Alex Fitzpatrick wrote: arne anka wrote: pendency issue? well, you are now at well defined point of confusion :-) the issue has been discussed several times, do this: opkg -force-depends remove libncurses5 opkg install ncurses libncurses5 The problem and workaround should probably be documented in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Use_the_package_manager ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: mkfs.vfat on 2007.02
arne anka wrote: be a package containing mkfs.vfat, or at least I can't find out what it is. Anyone? well, deeply moved by your continued expressions of sorrow ;-) i decided to have a look That was the desired effect :) Thank you. JFTR, I did download the Debian dosfstools package for the ARM architecture, and copied the binaries across to /sbin on OpenMoko (I know, but worth a shot right?): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# /sbin/mkfs.vfat /dev/mmcblk0p1 -sh: /sbin/mkfs.vfat: not found Even though the file clearly existed. Aaron ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Qtopia vs ASU
Ken Restivo wrote: On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 04:16:08AM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: Aaron Sowry wrote: At the risk of sounding completely ignorant, what is the difference between the 'Qtopia' images and the ASU images? Are the Qtopia images open-source? ASU is the hybrid ELF/ with parts from Qtopia running on X11 environment that Openmoko is developing. Qtopia is the phone gui that is developed by Trolltech, a Nokia Company. Qtopia is open source and released under the GPL. I think the question was: what's the difference between the Qtopia *images* and the ASU images. IIRC, the ASU images use X, even the Qtopia apps on the ASU image use X, but the Qtopia images do not have X, so the apps on the Qtopia image write directly to a framebuffer. So the ASU is OpenMoko's port of Trolltech's Qtopia, to run on X. Apps on the pure-Qtopia image have to be specially written in order to run on the Qtopia image, to deal with the frame buffer. I'd also guess that'd mean that the apps are faster, since X performs like an arthritic snail. I'm not sure where the Qtopia image comes from either. Does it come from Trolltech? The ASU image comes from OpenMoko. Because the ASU uses X, then all kinds of other apps using other toolkits (Gnome, ETK, etc.) can co-exist beside the Qtopia apps on the ASU image. Example: I'm using the openmoko-terminal2 (which appears to be GTK), on ASU, alongside the excellent Qtopia apps. There's this too: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions -ken ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support Thanks for clearing that up - I've just finished flashing my phone with the Qtopia images and it's fairly slick actually, I think you're right about X at least in the mobile realm. The Qtopia image does indeed come from Trolltech, pardon me if this has been discussed already but does anyone know how to install additional packages on Qtopia? Aaron ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
