Re: GPS stopped working, can't figure it out... what else?
khm... would you mind sharing what 'assist data' that was? and how you got around getting it? I got me a password from u-blox.com and use the script from this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GPS#GTA02_GPS_Hardware_Assist_Feature (the python one). I set the values for lat and lon to known values (for me lat=52.375756;lon=13.651114;) and feed the output into /dev/ttySAC1 - this speeds up finding satellites alot. This is an important action if you're using the GPS. The wiki discussion cited above could use some cleanup but the information you need is there. Anyone using a FR device and wanting to use the GPS should be using this. There's even a version for Android On OM at http://androidgps.blogspot.com/2009/02/priming-openmoko-u-blox-gps-chip.html ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Stylus
Leonti Bielski wrote: I use my keys :) Or a pen-cap - I always have my regular pen with me. That's too much like work. I just use a ballpoint pen with the ink retracted. Can always find one of those, though I usually lose the pen caps. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: OpenMoko Webcam
Neil Benn wrote: Hello, I see what you mean about programs to control the webcam. I have used luvcview and xawtv to successfully view the webcam but I cannot get either of them to stream to a file. I tried luvcview with '/luvcview -o text.avi/' but it did not write anything (also failed on my desktop ubuntu as well). I'm digging around to try more - cheese just fails and I Cannot install guvcview :(. luvcview requires a key sequence to start recording - this is a feature. If you get a picture from it, you are almost there! (I forget the key sequence, maybe p or s or something). ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: GTA02 is now an expensive brick
Craig Woodward wrote: [a lot of stuff that got cropped] Because I already have one. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: GTA02 is now an expensive brick
Craig Woodward wrote: Ian Darwin i...@darwinsys.com wrote: There is no place that OM has said that the current *software* is ready for the masses. That's really mincing words... You're right, OM never said the software was ready for the masses, but FIC said the FreeRunner was consumer ready when it was selling it 8 months ago. That to me implied the hardware AND software were ready. But months later we're learning that *neither* is ready, and that both camps will probably drop support for the device before a stable, reliable platform develops. (As they've already done for the GTA01.) Happily I've never had to deal with this battery mess because my current phone is a Nokia 6230i, which uses the same battery as the FR. The 6230 can charge the batteries from dead, and never fully drains them to start with. Frankly I find it unacceptable that ANY phone would fully discharge it's battery, doubly so when it's hardware isn't capable of trickle charging it from a NOPOWER state. But rather than trying to fix this hardware issue in software, OM chose to change architectures *twice*, and is now focusing work on changes for as yet unreleased hardware, including the GTA03. Way to build a customer base folks... And what happens when this new hardware become vaporware as people realize the market has dried up? Do you really think during a recession that people are going to drop big bucks on a GTA03, with no major hardware changes, after the first two FAILED and have no support now? I'm pretty sure I'll have my GTA02 up on ebay within the week. It really sucks, since I WANT an open source phone with the features the Neo promised. It also sucks that I dropped a pretty penny on what was claimed to be consumer ready, and 8 months later am still using my 5 year old phone for daily use. I will very likely take a hit on reselling my Neo, but what's my other option? Hold on to it in the hopes that a stable platform emerges before OM totally stops support? And if it doesn't, how much do you think I could re-sell a custom phone for with that can't be used as a phone, has half finished unstable open source software, and absolutely no support? The worst part is that by making promises and not delivering, FIC and OM have set the open source movement back for phones. They've pretty much killed any chance of an open source phone being taken seriously any time soon unless it's backed by a huge company (like Android). Who's going to invest in the next private open source phone after reading how the GTA failed twice, and delivered non-functional multi-hundred dollar hockey pucks instead? Anyone want a GTA02v5? You get the whole box set, plus I'll throw in a stand alone battery charger and a 2G uSD card too boot. Make an offer. You accuse me of mincing words. Let's see if you'll stand by your words. If you really feel the device is that worthless, sell it to me for $10.00. Final offer. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: GTA02 is now an expensive brick
Lucas Lacroix wrote: I forgot to plug the Neo in last night, and now the battery is completely dead. I cannot even get to the NOR boot. I've tried both USB and the charger. I have tried with and without the battery. No combination of these will get the phone to turn on so it can charge the battery. This is one of the most annoying misfeatures of the phone, I think everybody agrees. I'm saddened by the fact that a phone that was supposed to be released to the masses can have such a blatant failing. Not only can it NOT turn on when the battery has little or no charge, the APM service does not turn the phone off to prevent this (note: all OTHER phones I have ever used WILL turn off when the battery gets below some critical level). On top of this, if I ever expect to have a working phone, I have to disable the only feature which should extend the battery life (read that as: OpenMoko has fixed the WSoD problem by replacing it with the BSoD - Black Screen of Death). You've answered your own question in a roundabout way. There is no place that OM has said that the current *software* is ready for the masses. The fact that the software doesn't halt or suspend or shut down on low power is proof of this. The fact that it's software means it will eventually get remediated. I have looked at the work-arounds, and none of them have worked or are doable. I refuse to hardware hack my phone with an external 4.5V line to give it the initial charge. I also do not have access to a charger that will work with this battery. Lastly, I do not have a second battery. Do you live in a part of the world where anybody uses Nokia phones? Do you have a friend or co-worker who knows you well enough to lend you their battery for 5 mins to jump-start your phone? If not, maybe you need to get out more :-) Borrow their battery, insert it, boot up, plug in the charger, swap batteries, return the battery leaving your phone charging. On some cheaper Nokias you have to re-set the Nokia phone's date time after this operation; I've not seen it lose any other information from the Nokia and I've done this 3 or 4 times (the rest of my family has mostly Nokias at present, and they're not switching until the OM is more consumer ready). ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [Om2008.12] End call doesn't actually end call
Ian DarkStarWord wrote about a call not being ended. I had a similar experience with 2008.12. Maybe it only does it for people with the same first name as us. Or perhaps not. -- Ian Darwin ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Suspend in om2008.12
Is it just me, or does suspend freeze on om2008.12. I flashed the latest stable images to my freerunner, but it won't wake up when in suspend. I've rebooted several times. Any suggestions? Marcus It often, but not always, wakes up for me, on a GTA02v5 with stock Om2008.12. I just re-created this. Just for fun I plugged it into USB and was able to SSH in. XGlamo and E were still running, but nothing showed up on screen. This sounds familiar; it may be a known bug... ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Suspend in om2008.12
Ian Darwin wrote: It often, but not always, wakes up for me, on a GTA02v5 with stock Om2008.12. I just re-created this. Just for fun I plugged it into USB and was able to SSH in. XGlamo and E were still running, but nothing showed up on screen. This sounds familiar; it may be a known bug... And after I rebooted for other reasons and did another suspend, similar situation but also a handful of these on the console: xset: unable to open display :0 ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Sad Story
Juan Cañete wrote: Hi, Last night a burglar stole my FR. ... My phone had debian on it. I had a lot of applications configured. I used it like my main phone. Mail accounts configured, Phonebook with all contacts, a lot of sms, many applications configured with my users/passwds. And I realized they had access to all. I called the mobile phone company to suspend the number, I've changed almost all important passwds, anyway, although I think they even don't know how to use the FR, maybe they will sell it to someone that do, and he'll surf into my life. I only wanted to share this story with you. Maybe, because sharing my sadness I'll feel better, maybe not... Sr Cañete, thank you, you do both yourself and all of us a service. We all (I hope) empathize with your loss. And, most importantly, your story reminds everyone on the list of the importance of doing backups of their handheld data with at least the same regularity as their desktop and server systems. Regularly. Paraphrasing Santayana: Those who do not learn from the suffering of others are destined to suffer in the future. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Qtopia questions
This is exactly what happens: -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# addressbook All.vcf -sh: addressbook: not found -- Aaaah I figured it out... It works if I run the command directly in the phones terminal, and not from the host using ssh :-) Obviously a PATH issue; presumably ssh is not running the same set of startup scripts as the terminal program. Type which addressbook in the phones terminal, that will tell you what directory needs to be added. echo $SHELL will tell you what shell you're getting on each. Then consult standard UNIX/Linux doc for that shell to find out how to change your path settings - this whole sub-thread is, in fact, nothing to do with OpenMoko and all to do with standard *NIX shell stuff... ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Latest Image works great
Are there any update fees for 2008.8 in sync with these images ? What is this update fee you speak of? Oh, wait, yes, please send $29.95 in unmarked bills to the Reverend Fred Smith in South Middle Africa, along with your personal details and all your account numbers... :-) No, really, free software really is free. You fund this particular line of free software development by buying Openmoko hardware, not by getting nickled and dimed every time they improve it. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
