Re: [2008.8] [wifi] Settings / Wifi / password field does not allow pasting
On Friday, 5. September 2008 05:33:59 Vasco Névoa wrote: I have a 63 character random-generated password for my WPA network. The GUI asks for the password but apparently does not allow me to use copy-paste to insert it. Is there any other simple way to do this? Surely you don't expect me to input it by hand into Neo's GUI?!... We are not that cruel. :-) Recently, I added a password saving feature to settings. It will save all passwords after a successful connection attempt to a protected network in a file. This file (/etc/wifi.conf) is human readable. You could add a section for your network there. The format looks like that: [00:11:22:33:44:55] // your networks bssid password = 012345 // your password description = Openmoko // essid (optional) I guess it will take 1-2 days until this feature is through our queue and ends up in Om2008.8-update. HTH, Marek ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [2008.8] [wifi] Settings / Wifi / password field does not allow pasting
Thanks, Zack.
Yes, I had done that too (although I didn't put it in a script like
you - I like your script, you bring down usb0 to clean up the routing
table and call udhcpc eth0 again after ifup eth0 to make sure you get
an IP).
However, I would like to see the GUI doing the right thing.
Yesterday I did bite the bullet and copied my random-gen password byte
by byte into the password field while looking at it displayed in my
PC. It took me a couple of minutes to do it - you can't see what
you're inputting, so it takes time to do it right.
But the frustrating part is that later I switched off wifi in the GUI,
and when I turned it back on, IT ASKED FOR THE PASSWORD AGAIN
RRGGGHHH!! Obviously, I won't go through that again.
So, now I have 3 complaints/wishes for the wifi gui:
1 - always allow pasting into password field;
2 - an option to allow visual feedback (see the actual chars) input
into the password field;
3 - store the already input password!!!
Should I send this to another list to get developer attention?
Citando Zack Mollusc [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Vasco Névoa wrote:
I have a 63 character random-generated password for my WPA network.
The GUI asks for the password but apparently does not allow me to use
copy-paste to insert it.
Is there any other simple way to do this? Surely you don't expect me to
input it by hand into Neo's GUI?!...
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Hi, I can connect to my wpa with my
/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_WLAN#Sample_wpa_supplicant.conf file
thus:
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ctrl_interface_group=0
eapol_version=1
ap_scan=1
fast_reauth=1
# WPA:
network={
ssid=OMFGmySSID
proto=WPA
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
pairwise=TKIP
group=TKIP
scan_ssid=1
psk=omfgmysecretWPAkeyhere
priority=10
}
# Wildcard match for SSID (plaintext APs only). This example select any
# open AP regardless of its SSID.
network={
key_mgmt=NONE
priority=5
}
I have to run a script (i call mine wifi.sh)consisting of
ifdown usb0
ifdown eth0
ifup eth0
udhcpc eth0
in order to get it to dhcp from the router. ie i power up the phone,
open a terminal window and run the above wifi.sh script and wait
(sometimes for a few minutes) until it discovers the ip settings from
the router.
This little shell script gets me onto my wpa router or any open router
that is available.
Please don't ask me for details as I am a non-programming nitwit
cobbling stuff out of other people's help files.
Good luck.
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Re: [2008.8] [wifi] Settings / Wifi / password field does not allow pasting
Oops! Sorry Marek, I missed your email before I answered Zack's. :( So, password storing is there - great!! A big *thank you* for that and for telling where the config file is. :) Any chance that GUI pasting could be implemented in the near future? IMHO it's the last detail preventing a security-conscious non-geek from using the wifi in Neo/OM. If you have to go terminal, then something isn't quite ready yet. ;D Citando Marek Lindner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Friday, 5. September 2008 05:33:59 Vasco Névoa wrote: I have a 63 character random-generated password for my WPA network. The GUI asks for the password but apparently does not allow me to use copy-paste to insert it. Is there any other simple way to do this? Surely you don't expect me to input it by hand into Neo's GUI?!... We are not that cruel. :-) Recently, I added a password saving feature to settings. It will save all passwords after a successful connection attempt to a protected network in a file. This file (/etc/wifi.conf) is human readable. You could add a section for your network there. The format looks like that: [00:11:22:33:44:55] // your networks bssid password = 012345 // your password description = Openmoko // essid (optional) I guess it will take 1-2 days until this feature is through our queue and ends up in Om2008.8-update. HTH, Marek ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [2008.8] [wifi] Settings / Wifi / password field does not allow pasting
On Friday, 5. September 2008 17:36:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oops! Sorry Marek, I missed your email before I answered Zack's. :( So, password storing is there - great!! A big *thank you* for that and for telling where the config file is. :) No problem. :-) Any chance that GUI pasting could be implemented in the near future? Well, I don't know what your real problem is at the moment. How do you intend to copy from and why it does not work for you ? Marek ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [2008.8] [wifi] Settings / Wifi / password field does not allow pasting
Citando Marek Lindner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Any chance that GUI pasting could be implemented in the near future? Well, I don't know what your real problem is at the moment. How do you intend to copy from and why it does not work for you ? Well, my problem is just a normal use-case: a regular user is not expected to go edit a configuration file when there is a GUI to do the job. So, when a user has a pretty long and complex password, it is a big pain to introduce it letter-by-letter in the illume UI via keyboard when a simple ctrl-V or shift-ins would do the trick (copied from a file opened in the qtopia text editor or something like it). Inputting a 63 character password with all kinds of random-generated chars (including / @ ^ ~ etc.) is a trial-and-error task (because there is no visual feedback) and also very time-consuming (because of all the keyboard shifting) that could simply be avoided. It is not a big problem, but it is annoying as hell to a newcomer. After all, openmoko is about a grand new friendly user experience, right? free your phone?... ;) ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [2008.8] [wifi] Settings / Wifi / password field does not allow pasting
On Friday, 5. September 2008 22:05:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I don't know what your real problem is at the moment. How do you intend to copy from and why it does not work for you ? Well, my problem is just a normal use-case: a regular user is not expected to go edit a configuration file when there is a GUI to do the job. You misunderstood my question. Let me clarify: Please provide a step by step instruction on how you copy paste your password into the field and outline at which point its failing. It is hard to fix a bug that you don't know how to reproduce. :-) Marek ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [2008.8] [wifi] Settings / Wifi / password field does not allow pasting
Citando Marek Lindner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Friday, 5. September 2008 22:05:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I don't know what your real problem is at the moment. How do you intend to copy from and why it does not work for you ? Well, my problem is just a normal use-case: a regular user is not expected to go edit a configuration file when there is a GUI to do the job. You misunderstood my question. Let me clarify: Please provide a step by step instruction on how you copy paste your password into the field and outline at which point its failing. It is hard to fix a bug that you don't know how to reproduce. :-) Ah. Ok. :) Software: OM2008.8-update, with today's opkg upgrade of /testing feed. My WPA key is in a text file in my home dir. Use case A (normal): 1 - launch a GUI text editor(like qtopia notes) and open the key file; 2 - select the relevant text (ctrl-a) and try to copy it with ctrl-c or ctrl-ins on the terminal-like keyboard; 3 - call the settings via the illume menu (already opened and running, just select it from drop-down list); 4 - pick wifi 5 - pick my WPA network; 6 - when prompted for password, tap the field to establish focus and try to paste the text copied from the terminal: keyboard ctrl-v or shift-ins won't do anything. Use case B (desperate): 1 - do cat key.txt in a om terminal; 2 - select the relevant key text by dragging over the text; 3 - continue from step 3 of use case A. None of these do anything visible to the password field. Marek ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [2008.8] [wifi] Settings / Wifi / password field does not allow pasting
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks, Zack.
Yes, I had done that too (although I didn't put it in a script like
you - I like your script, you bring down usb0 to clean up the routing
table and call udhcpc eth0 again after ifup eth0 to make sure you get
an IP).
However, I would like to see the GUI doing the right thing.
Yesterday I did bite the bullet and copied my random-gen password byte
by byte into the password field while looking at it displayed in my
PC. It took me a couple of minutes to do it - you can't see what
you're inputting, so it takes time to do it right.
But the frustrating part is that later I switched off wifi in the GUI,
and when I turned it back on, IT ASKED FOR THE PASSWORD AGAIN
RRGGGHHH!! Obviously, I won't go through that again.
So, now I have 3 complaints/wishes for the wifi gui:
1 - always allow pasting into password field;
2 - an option to allow visual feedback (see the actual chars) input
into the password field;
3 - store the already input password!!!
Should I send this to another list to get developer attention?
Citando Zack Mollusc [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Vasco Névoa wrote:
I have a 63 character random-generated password for my WPA network.
The GUI asks for the password but apparently does not allow me to use
copy-paste to insert it.
Is there any other simple way to do this? Surely you don't expect me to
input it by hand into Neo's GUI?!...
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Hi, I can connect to my wpa with my
/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_WLAN#Sample_wpa_supplicant.conf file
thus:
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ctrl_interface_group=0
eapol_version=1
ap_scan=1
fast_reauth=1
# WPA:
network={
ssid=OMFGmySSID
proto=WPA
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
pairwise=TKIP
group=TKIP
scan_ssid=1
psk=omfgmysecretWPAkeyhere
priority=10
}
# Wildcard match for SSID (plaintext APs only). This example select any
# open AP regardless of its SSID.
network={
key_mgmt=NONE
priority=5
}
I have to run a script (i call mine wifi.sh)consisting of
ifdown usb0
ifdown eth0
ifup eth0
udhcpc eth0
in order to get it to dhcp from the router. ie i power up the phone,
open a terminal window and run the above wifi.sh script and wait
(sometimes for a few minutes) until it discovers the ip settings from
the router.
This little shell script gets me onto my wpa router or any open router
that is available.
Please don't ask me for details as I am a non-programming nitwit
cobbling stuff out of other people's help files.
Good luck.
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Hi Vasco,
I think the problem is being worked on, but I can't find the email i
read it in.
I too typed in a 63 digit password without being able to see it :-) I
only did it once then went and found a way round it.
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Re: [2008.8] [wifi] Settings / Wifi / password field does not allow pasting
Vasco Névoa wrote:
I have a 63 character random-generated password for my WPA network.
The GUI asks for the password but apparently does not allow me to use
copy-paste to insert it.
Is there any other simple way to do this? Surely you don't expect me to
input it by hand into Neo's GUI?!...
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Hi, I can connect to my wpa with my /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_WLAN#Sample_wpa_supplicant.conf file thus:
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ctrl_interface_group=0
eapol_version=1
ap_scan=1
fast_reauth=1
# WPA:
network={
ssid=OMFGmySSID
proto=WPA
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
pairwise=TKIP
group=TKIP
scan_ssid=1
psk=omfgmysecretWPAkeyhere
priority=10
}
# Wildcard match for SSID (plaintext APs only). This example select any
# open AP regardless of its SSID.
network={
key_mgmt=NONE
priority=5
}
I have to run a script (i call mine wifi.sh)consisting of
ifdown usb0
ifdown eth0
ifup eth0
udhcpc eth0
in order to get it to dhcp from the router. ie i power up the phone,
open a terminal window and run the above wifi.sh script and wait
(sometimes for a few minutes) until it discovers the ip settings from
the router.
This little shell script gets me onto my wpa router or any open router
that is available.
Please don't ask me for details as I am a non-programming nitwit
cobbling stuff out of other people's help files.
Good luck.
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