A few problems I've been having ... suggestions?

2008-09-08 Thread Gothnet

Hiya,

I've got a Freerunner and have figured out my way around flashing it and
trying out a bunch of things. A week or so ago I left my old mobile in a
hire car in another country (good move, I know) so the GTA02 has become my
main mobile. Both the update process and trying to use it day to day have
made me hit a few problems -

1. Couldn't update NOR uboot
Not a big problem, but after (roughly) following the process here -
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-January/000708.html

I got as far as booting into 2008.08 and running:
flash_unlock /dev/mtd0
flash_eraseall /dev/mtd0
cat u-boot.udfu >/dev/mtd0

before the Freerunner went to suspend (I didn't know about xset :0 s off at
that point). On every subsequent try the eraseall and cat stage fail. Not
that it matters as I have updated the NAND uboot.

2. Debian/FSO stopped associating with T-Mobile after a while
No idea why, but after a few boots zhone just stopped picking up a signal.
So I went back to 2008.08

3. 2008.08 sound problems.
It seems to either vary by day or by boot or by some other random factor.
Even after opkg update and upgrade last week (friday?) it either echoes the
remote party's speech right back to them, or my speech to me, or works
perfectly. Weird.

4. Qtopia addressbook on 2008.08 - Is there any way to do a mass delete?
I screwed up the vcf file I'm importing several times. The first couple of
times I manually deleted 50+ contacts one at a time, is there a
faster/better way to do this as deleting them all manually kinda sucks?

5. Charging overnight seems to kill it
I leave the phone attached to the mains charger overnight, as otherwise it
would likely run out of batteries. Unfortunately, by morning it's pretty
dead, won't come back from suspend and hasn't sounded the alarm I set. To
reboot I need to remove the battery and start it up again. This done, the
alarm goes off. Useful :)

7. Gotta answer calls quickly
If I don't pick up pretty fast I think the phone goes back to suspend or
something, but displays a couple of buttons at the bottom of the screen
saying "yes" and "no". these buttons don't respond and nothing much else
seems to make it wake up again either. Battery out, start again...

Other than that it's pretty cool. I like having a phone I can ssh into. I
haven't yet started playing with the "advanced" functionality (GPRS,
WLAN)...

I like the 2008.08 keyboard, it's finger friendly and the predictive text is
helpful, mostly. Are there ways to teach it extra words and/or switch it off
though?

Thanks for your help/suggestions,

David. 

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Re: A few problems I've been having ... suggestions?

2008-09-09 Thread e hanks
Maybe losing your other phone will result in a better running FreeRunner.

I've missed a bunch of phone calls in 2008.8. Hitting the answer
button actually dumps the call 2 out of 3 times. Qtopia had a better
record except the in-call keypad wouldn't work.

Finger friendly keyboard?!

Wifi & GPS? Works. Mostly. Wpa_supplicant is tricky. Let Settings'
Wifi fill in the blanks.

Battery woes.- all night is ok if you need some charging otherwise I'm
pulling out the battery just to get a boot.

So, I'm pretty much ignoring the phone right now except for basic
usage. Switched to BSD on my lappy... OEM it works better than my
phone.

I'll ready for a putsch on my FR soon. :)

Best of luck...


On 9/8/08, Gothnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hiya,
>
> I've got a Freerunner and have figured out my way around flashing it and
> trying out a bunch of things. A week or so ago I left my old mobile in a
> hire car in another country (good move, I know) so the GTA02 has become my
> main mobile. Both the update process and trying to use it day to day have
> made me hit a few problems -
>
> 1. Couldn't update NOR uboot
> Not a big problem, but after (roughly) following the process here -
> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-January/000708.html
>
> I got as far as booting into 2008.08 and running:
> flash_unlock /dev/mtd0
> flash_eraseall /dev/mtd0
> cat u-boot.udfu >/dev/mtd0
>
> before the Freerunner went to suspend (I didn't know about xset :0 s off at
> that point). On every subsequent try the eraseall and cat stage fail. Not
> that it matters as I have updated the NAND uboot.
>
> 2. Debian/FSO stopped associating with T-Mobile after a while
> No idea why, but after a few boots zhone just stopped picking up a signal.
> So I went back to 2008.08
>
> 3. 2008.08 sound problems.
> It seems to either vary by day or by boot or by some other random factor.
> Even after opkg update and upgrade last week (friday?) it either echoes the
> remote party's speech right back to them, or my speech to me, or works
> perfectly. Weird.
>
> 4. Qtopia addressbook on 2008.08 - Is there any way to do a mass delete?
> I screwed up the vcf file I'm importing several times. The first couple of
> times I manually deleted 50+ contacts one at a time, is there a
> faster/better way to do this as deleting them all manually kinda sucks?
>
> 5. Charging overnight seems to kill it
> I leave the phone attached to the mains charger overnight, as otherwise it
> would likely run out of batteries. Unfortunately, by morning it's pretty
> dead, won't come back from suspend and hasn't sounded the alarm I set. To
> reboot I need to remove the battery and start it up again. This done, the
> alarm goes off. Useful :)
>
> 7. Gotta answer calls quickly
> If I don't pick up pretty fast I think the phone goes back to suspend or
> something, but displays a couple of buttons at the bottom of the screen
> saying "yes" and "no". these buttons don't respond and nothing much else
> seems to make it wake up again either. Battery out, start again...
>
> Other than that it's pretty cool. I like having a phone I can ssh into. I
> haven't yet started playing with the "advanced" functionality (GPRS,
> WLAN)...
>
> I like the 2008.08 keyboard, it's finger friendly and the predictive text is
> helpful, mostly. Are there ways to teach it extra words and/or switch it off
> though?
>
> Thanks for your help/suggestions,
>
> David.
>
> (Apologies if this shows up twice, it shouldn't as I wasn't subscribed first
> time I posted)
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Re: A few problems I've been having ... suggestions?

2008-09-09 Thread Evgeny Ginzburg
Gothnet wrote:
> Hiya,



> 3. 2008.08 sound problems.
> It seems to either vary by day or by boot or by some other random factor.
> Even after opkg update and upgrade last week (friday?) it either echoes the
> remote party's speech right back to them, or my speech to me, or works
> perfectly. Weird.

Known problem for some operators, it seems there is fix for this in the 
near future.
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/028495.html

> 4. Qtopia addressbook on 2008.08 - Is there any way to do a mass delete?
> I screwed up the vcf file I'm importing several times. The first couple of
> times I manually deleted 50+ contacts one at a time, is there a
> faster/better way to do this as deleting them all manually kinda sucks?
> 

Try this: http://www.smurfy.de/files/neo/remove_all_contacts
(from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Vcf_Contacts)

Hope  it helped a bit.

Cheers Evgeny

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Re: A few problems I've been having ... suggestions?

2008-09-09 Thread Gothnet



e hanks wrote:
> 
> Maybe losing your other phone will result in a better running FreeRunner.
> 

Definitely the impetus I needed to start looking at the freerunner more
seriously



> Finger friendly keyboard?!
> 

Compared to matchbook? It's a blessing! I'm sure there's still work to be
done, but I can at least tap out a text message with my fingernail now. Most
of the time. And with some compromises on choice of words when it doesn't
understand...



> Wifi & GPS? Works. Mostly. Wpa_supplicant is tricky. Let Settings'
> Wifi fill in the blanks.
> 

GPS just works and finds me. GPRS I haven't looked at yet.
Wifi likewise. I'm reasonably familiar with wpa_supplicant so I'm not
anticipating trouble.



> Battery woes.- all night is ok if you need some charging otherwise I'm
> pulling out the battery just to get a boot.
> 

I think it heard me, this morning it decided to behave. Except for the alarm
which still didn't go off.



> Best of luck...
> 

cheers!

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Re: A few problems I've been having ... suggestions?

2008-09-09 Thread Gothnet



Evgeny Ginzburg wrote:
> 
> 
> Known problem for some operators, it seems there is fix for this in the 
> near future.
> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/028495.html
> 
> 

Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for that hitting the main repos, or try the
patch if it really affects me badly.



> Try this: http://www.smurfy.de/files/neo/remove_all_contacts
> (from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Vcf_Contacts)
> 

Unfortunately I tried that and I get -

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./killbook.sh", line 24, in 
l = getAddressBook().getContactList("(contains \"x-evolution-any-field\"
\"\ ")")
  File "./killbook.sh", line 17, in getAddressBook
sb = dbus.SessionBus()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 217, in
__new__
mainloop=mainloop)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 106, in
__new__
bus = BusConnection.__new__(subclass, bus_type, mainloop=mainloop)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 125, in __new__
bus = cls._new_for_bus(address_or_type, mainloop=mainloop)
dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed:
dbus-launch failed to autolaunch D-Bus session: Autolaunch requested, but
X11 support not compiled in.
Cannot continue.

Unfortunately I don'#t know my python well enough to figure out the problem,
unless it is the stated problem, in which case I may have deeper problems...

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Re: A few problems I've been having ... suggestions?

2008-09-09 Thread Evgeny Ginzburg
Gothnet wrote:
>> Try this: http://www.smurfy.de/files/neo/remove_all_contacts
>> (from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Vcf_Contacts)
>>
> 
> Unfortunately I tried that and I get -
> 
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "./killbook.sh", line 24, in 
> l = getAddressBook().getContactList("(contains \"x-evolution-any-field\"
> \"\ ")")
>   File "./killbook.sh", line 17, in getAddressBook
> sb = dbus.SessionBus()
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 217, in
> __new__
> mainloop=mainloop)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 106, in
> __new__
> bus = BusConnection.__new__(subclass, bus_type, mainloop=mainloop)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 125, in __new__
> bus = cls._new_for_bus(address_or_type, mainloop=mainloop)
> dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed:
> dbus-launch failed to autolaunch D-Bus session: Autolaunch requested, but
> X11 support not compiled in.
> Cannot continue.
> 
> Unfortunately I don'#t know my python well enough to figure out the problem,
> unless it is the stated problem, in which case I may have deeper problems...

Sorry I gave you wrong instructions, it's for OM 2007.
OM 2008.8 stores data in /home/root/.evolution/
(source- http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/A_Filesystem's_Guide)
hope this will help.

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Re: A few problems I've been having ... suggestions?

2008-09-09 Thread Gothnet



Evgeny Ginzburg wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Sorry I gave you wrong instructions, it's for OM 2007.
> OM 2008.8 stores data in /home/root/.evolution/
> (source- http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/A_Filesystem's_Guide)
> hope this will help.
> 

That path doesn't seem to exist on my freerunner

Am currently scanning through every file on the machine for a known string
(someone's name) to see if I can hunt down the addressbook, so far no luck.
Though I have found three instances of what look like predictive keypad
input with names in them.
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Re: A few problems I've been having ... suggestions?

2008-09-09 Thread Thomas B.
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 06:10:45AM -0700, Gothnet wrote:
> > Sorry I gave you wrong instructions, it's for OM 2007.
> > OM 2008.8 stores data in /home/root/.evolution/
> > (source- http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/A_Filesystem's_Guide)
> > hope this will help.
> > 
> 
> That path doesn't seem to exist on my freerunner
> 
> Am currently scanning through every file on the machine for a known string
> (someone's name) to see if I can hunt down the addressbook, so far no luck.
> Though I have found three instances of what look like predictive keypad
> input with names in them.

Evolution is OM2007.
OM2008.8's default addressbook is part of Qtopia, and Qtopia seems to
store most of its data in SQLite databases. The one containing the
addressbook is ~/Applications/Qtopia/qtopia_db.sqlite. The database
schema implies that this file also contains appointments, dates, the
call history, and other stuff.

I think you can delete all contacts by loading the file into SQLite and
doing "delete from contacts;". Qtopia probably shouldn't be running and
accessing the file while you are doing this.

HTH,
Thomas


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Re: A few problems I've been having ... suggestions?

2008-09-10 Thread Gothnet



Thomas B. wrote:
> 
> 
> I think you can delete all contacts by loading the file into SQLite and
> doing "delete from contacts;". Qtopia probably shouldn't be running and
> accessing the file while you are doing this.
> 
> HTH,
> Thomas
> 
> 

Perfect, exactly what I was looking for. For future reference and for the
convenience of anyone looking for this on Google -

To delete your entire Qtopia addressbook from OM2008.08 (and probably other
Qtopia devices, YMMV), do the following:

1. Kill Qtopia. I did this by killing X "pkill X"

2. Copy the file /home/root/Applications/Qtopia/qtopia_db.sqlite on to
another machine with an SQLite client OR install an SQLite client onto the
freerunner. 
I used http://sourceforge.net/projects/sqlitebrowser/

3. Delete from contacts

4. Delete from contactphonenumbers

5. Copy the file back to the freerunner and restart everything (I did this
via a reboot)

I should think there are a lot of other useful mass config type things you
could do with this method. BTW, contacts holds names and contactphonenumbers
has numbers, there are other tables with fairly obvious names that you'll
need to edit if you've added address data.

Thanks again,

David
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