Re: Illume keyboard Disappeared
I like qtopia's keyboard, but ONLY for text messaging. I can use that one w/ my fingers, which makes sending texts, while driving, easy. I cannot use the illume keyboard with my thumbs. Ultimately, I would like qtopia's to show up ONLY when sending a message, and illume to show up every where else. That's just my preference, but if I can figure that out I'd be a happy panda. . . .shawn Yorick Moko wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Joel Newkirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:28:55 +1000, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:00:08 -0400 Alex Fitzpatrick > Clearly >> someone controlling such decisions at Openmoko is insufficiently aware of >> the general loathing within the community toward that keyboard. > > > How the hell can they be unaware after a hundred mails all saying the same? > I have not read one mail from a user that said he found this keyboard > useful in the state it is right now. Everybody who has the phone at > this stage NEEDS to enter funky words in his terminal. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Illume keyboard Disappeared
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Joel Newkirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:28:55 +1000, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:00:08 -0400 Alex Fitzpatrick Clearly > someone controlling such decisions at Openmoko is insufficiently aware of > the general loathing within the community toward that keyboard. How the hell can they be unaware after a hundred mails all saying the same? I have not read one mail from a user that said he found this keyboard useful in the state it is right now. Everybody who has the phone at this stage NEEDS to enter funky words in his terminal. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Reference screenshots of various keyboards ? - Was: Re: Illume keyboard Disappeared
Armin ranjbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > after running a few while , maybe after suspends , Illume keyboard does > not appear and standard om2008 keyboard appear , any one has any idea ? > There are lots of flames/discussions over the keyboard (including in bugtracker), and it's sometimes very difficult to follow the reasoning... and adding more noise to noisy discussions is not what's preferable.. still it's really hard to keep up on these issues, I think. What is "om2008 keyboard" (which om 2088 : 08/08 or 08/26 ?).. what's Illume keyboard, etc. Maybe if we had a set of pictures to name them and avoid confusion (pictures like what's in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard) would help alot to get a clearer idea of the various options. Is this possible (taking snapshots of the keybords displayed) ? Thanks in advance for your comments. Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Illume keyboard Disappeared
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:28:55 +1000, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:00:08 -0400 Alex Fitzpatrick > as best i know there is no way to turn qpe's keyboard off. until that > happens > there will always be fighting between illume's own keyboard and qpe's (As > the > vkbd system is generic allowing for any keyboard window - and illume just > creates one of its own that gets picked up by the generic system). > > -- > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Right now, that's an IMMENSE irritation for me. (and to judge by mailinglist traffic, for many many others as well) I had xterm running today, typing on the 'full qwerty' keyboard, and while I was staring at the screen that keyboard went away and the 'letters only' one appeared, and the only way I could get cursor keys back was to reboot the goddammed thing. I dare anyone to try editing a file with that useless excuse for a keyboard. It may be good for text messaging and naming entries in Contacts, but even there it has shortcomings, mostly caused by the dictionary interaction. The predictive error introduction and the need to switch keyboards for punctuation and numbers means it takes a painfully long time to type something like 'ip r d default via 192.168.0.201'. If the damned thing would just stay shut off when disabled it'd be acceptable. I've been seriously considering flashing to a different OS just because of the keyboard. Any OS that intermittently removes cursor keys requiring reboot to restore them is broken. j PS - I realize this and similar posts are mostly 'preaching to the choir'. Since a polling mechanism isn't readily available, would it be useful to start a 'qtopia keyboard vote' thread where people can be encouraged to post a simple 'make it die' or 'I love it' or whatever as a vote? Clearly someone controlling such decisions at Openmoko is insufficiently aware of the general loathing within the community toward that keyboard. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Illume keyboard Disappeared
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:00:08 -0400 Alex Fitzpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > VictorSigma wrote: > > Armin ranjbar wrote: > > > > after running a few while , maybe after suspends , Illume keyboard does > > > not appear and standard om2008 keyboard appear , any one has any idea ? > > > > > > I myself asked this question recently.(Please search the mailing list before > > posting) > > http://n2.nabble.com/preserving-illume-keyboard-on-update-tp778734p778734.html > > > > link > > > > > > > But that thread has no answer either... Anyone know how to enable a full > keyboard with the new update? as best i know there is no way to turn qpe's keyboard off. until that happens there will always be fighting between illume's own keyboard and qpe's (As the vkbd system is generic allowing for any keyboard window - and illume just creates one of its own that gets picked up by the generic system). -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Illume keyboard Disappeared
VictorSigma wrote: Armin ranjbar wrote: > > after running a few while , maybe after suspends , Illume keyboard does > > not appear and standard om2008 keyboard appear , any one has any idea ? > > > I myself asked this question recently.(Please search the mailing list before > posting) > http://n2.nabble.com/preserving-illume-keyboard-on-update-tp778734p778734.html > > link > > > But that thread has no answer either... Anyone know how to enable a full keyboard with the new update? -- Alex ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Illume keyboard Disappeared
I myself asked this question recently.(Please search the mailing list before posting) http://n2.nabble.com/preserving-illume-keyboard-on-update-tp778734p778734.html link Armin ranjbar wrote: > > after running a few while , maybe after suspends , Illume keyboard does > not appear and standard om2008 keyboard appear , any one has any idea ? > > > -- > Armin ranjbar , System Administrator > > ___ > support mailing list > support@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Illume-keyboard-Disappeared-tp784751p785127.html Sent from the Openmoko Support mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Illume keyboard Disappeared
after running a few while , maybe after suspends , Illume keyboard does not appear and standard om2008 keyboard appear , any one has any idea ? -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support