Re: Illume config?
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Armin ranjbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear all , > > there was an application which configures menus , 'gadgets' , icon size > and ... of om2008 , i found that in the menu ( left up size , tool shaped > icon ) , i wonder which application does provide that since it does appear > that illume-config isn't it , any idea ? > > -- > Armin ranjbar , System Administrator > > ___ > support mailing list > support@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support > I filed a bug report on that one: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1863 it's closed... ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Illume config?
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:25:55 +0200 "Yorick Moko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This this Really INVALID ? > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Armin ranjbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear all , > > > > there was an application which configures menus , 'gadgets' , icon size > > and ... of om2008 , i found that in the menu ( left up size , tool > > shaped icon ) , i wonder which application does provide that since it > > does appear that illume-config isn't it , any idea ? > > > > -- > > Armin ranjbar , System Administrator > > > > ___ > > support mailing list > > support@lists.openmoko.org > > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support > > > > I filed a bug report on that one: > https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1863 it's closed... > > ___ > support mailing list > support@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Illume config?
I believe 'opkg install illume-config' is what you are looking for otherwise you could try flashing one of the http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080824/ development images . (not recommended). Armin ranjbar wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:25:55 +0200 > "Yorick Moko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This this Really INVALID ? > >> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Armin ranjbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Dear all , >> > >> > there was an application which configures menus , 'gadgets' , icon size >> > and ... of om2008 , i found that in the menu ( left up size , tool >> > shaped icon ) , i wonder which application does provide that since it >> > does appear that illume-config isn't it , any idea ? >> > >> > -- >> > Armin ranjbar , System Administrator >> > >> > ___ >> > support mailing list >> > support@lists.openmoko.org >> > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support >> > >> >> I filed a bug report on that one: >> https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1863 it's closed... >> >> ___ >> support mailing list >> support@lists.openmoko.org >> https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support > > > -- > Armin ranjbar , System Administrator > > ___ > support mailing list > support@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Illume-config--tp784324p785121.html Sent from the Openmoko Support mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Illume config?
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 9:46 PM, VictorSigma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I believe 'opkg install illume-config' is what you are looking for otherwise > you could try flashing one of the > http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080824/ development > images . (not recommended). > > > > Armin ranjbar wrote: >> >> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:25:55 +0200 >> "Yorick Moko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> This this Really INVALID ? >> >>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Armin ranjbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > Dear all , >>> > >>> > there was an application which configures menus , 'gadgets' , icon size >>> > and ... of om2008 , i found that in the menu ( left up size , tool >>> > shaped icon ) , i wonder which application does provide that since it >>> > does appear that illume-config isn't it , any idea ? >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Armin ranjbar , System Administrator >>> > >>> > ___ >>> > support mailing list >>> > support@lists.openmoko.org >>> > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support >>> > >>> >>> I filed a bug report on that one: >>> https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1863 it's closed... >>> >>> ___ >>> support mailing list >>> support@lists.openmoko.org >>> https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support >> >> >> -- >> Armin ranjbar , System Administrator >> >> ___ >> support mailing list >> support@lists.openmoko.org >> https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support >> >> > > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Illume-config--tp784324p785121.html > Sent from the Openmoko Support mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ___ > support mailing list > support@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support > no, illume-config only gives you the querty button, not the spanner, take a look at: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1863 ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Illume config?
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:12:50 +0430 Armin ranjbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: yes - because that "spanner" was never meant to be accessible or exist. it is sheer bi-product of the way asu was released that you could get it back through a theme change. so as such that illume-config theme is really a bug - or exposes a bug that was hidden. you can argue that "but that config gives me all sorts of useful stuff" etc. but that is not what om wanted - they explicitly did NOT want that config tool. (it's actually just part of e/illume - an internal dialog window). you can switch to the illume profile (the default profile changed to asu - see /etc/enlightenment/default_profile) and you'll get it back. > This this Really INVALID ? > > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Armin ranjbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dear all , > > > > > > there was an application which configures menus , 'gadgets' , icon size > > > and ... of om2008 , i found that in the menu ( left up size , tool > > > shaped icon ) , i wonder which application does provide that since it > > > does appear that illume-config isn't it , any idea ? > > > > > > -- > > > Armin ranjbar , System Administrator > > > > > > ___ > > > support mailing list > > > support@lists.openmoko.org > > > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support > > > > > > > I filed a bug report on that one: > > https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1863 it's closed... > > > > ___ > > support mailing list > > support@lists.openmoko.org > > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support > > > -- > Armin ranjbar , System Administrator > > ___ > support mailing list > support@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Illume config?
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:27:32 +1000, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:12:50 +0430 Armin ranjbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > yes - because that "spanner" was never meant to be accessible or exist. it > is > sheer bi-product of the way asu was released that you could get it back > through > a theme change. so as such that illume-config theme is really a bug - or > exposes a bug that was hidden. > > you can argue that "but that config gives me all sorts of useful stuff" > etc. > but that is not what om wanted - they explicitly did NOT want that config > tool. > (it's actually just part of e/illume - an internal dialog window). > > you can switch to the illume profile (the default profile changed to asu - > see /etc/enlightenment/default_profile) and you'll get it back. It seems clear to me that someone in authority at Openmoko is trying to make a smartphone, without regard to the fact that probably 95% of sales to date are to developers who want to help MAKE that smartphone plus potentially much more, but have requirements which that authority is ignoring. (IE, they want pocket computer functionality, ready access to extensive configuration options, and - oh yeah, a usable keyboard that doesn't vanish at random) This falls under the heading "how to kill a great product". I predict that if Openmoko fails, it will be due to abandonment by thousands of developers frustrated with narrowminded corporate decisions imposing intolerable limits. WTF - is their concept of 'Open' one where if we don't like their impositions that we should flash to Debian and abandon any development efforts for the 'official' distro?? If they don't want the developer community, I'm sure it will go away with just a little more effort. j ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Illume config?
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Joel Newkirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems clear to me that someone in authority at Openmoko is trying to > make a smartphone, without regard to the fact that probably 95% of sales to > date are to developers who want to help MAKE that smartphone plus > potentially much more, but have requirements which that authority is > ignoring. (IE, they want pocket computer functionality, ready access to > extensive configuration options, and - oh yeah, a usable keyboard that > doesn't vanish at random) But they already told you go to ahead and fork if you don't like it. :-) Maybe the "official" images are eventually going to become less relevant than the developer-sponsored ones. Just like Opie was way better than the official Zaurus image. (And the Zaurus also has several possible OS distributions and graphics toolkits, so the focus was spread out too much, and none of the possibilities really lived up to their potential.) But this project has way more people involved than the Zaurus ever did. And Sharp was really quite closed, did not take any community contributions at all - they threw a couple QTopia-based releases over the wall and that was the end of it, so the community had to start over in many ways to make improvements. After this experience I'm quite a bit happier with the way OpenMoko is going, although of course nothing is ever as good as it could be. Maybe they will eventually react in a positive way to some of the feedback about the keyboard etc., although the vision makes sense... is it really too much to ask for a UI toolkit to hide and show the keyboard depending on whether the input focus is in a widget that can take input? There are only a few widgets into which you can type, anyway. But we have several toolkits so the work has to be repeated. And in the meantime I don't see what would be so terrible about having that button... but it's amazing how much heat such a small thing generated, too. Of course FreeRunner buyers had good reason to expect more than us GTA01 early adopters, but it's obviously still a work-in-progress. There's not much to be done about that, except that everyone needs to keep working, not just the employees. (If you've ever used Linux on a PC, you don't blame the PC maker for any annoying UI quirks... you can fix it yourself, live with it, report bugs and/or keep trying distros until you find one you like.) > This falls under the heading "how to kill a great product". I hope that turns out to be an exaggeration. At least there is revenue... and support from the mothership... and I hope they planned for this multi-year ramp-up, and have a low enough burn rate that they can support it without running out of money. But while we are feeling disappointed that more has not been done so far, I wonder how much disappointment they feel over having to do the lion's share of the work. Maybe they were expecting more traction from the community to get them there quicker. Personally I find time to work on it periodically, but I'm off doing my own thing, and too slow... but if I ever get there, I'm OK with having to fork if necessary, and I will thank them for making available the hardware and OS support for it at a sortof affordable price, even if whatever GUI they ship ultimately sucks, because hey I can develop my own... that's what it's all about. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Illume Config Display
I'm fiddling around, for the first time, with Illume's config menu; some of the items display well enough for me to use them, but others -- Wallpaper Settings, for example -- display beyond the screen edges and there's no way of scrolling around. I tried changing the screen orientation and the resolution, but got the same results. Any ideas? Apologies if this has been covered already. Go into Illume's config and go to 'Look' and scroll down to 'Scaling'. Make a note of the current value (to restore later - look in the box at the end of the slider, not what's written below - probably 144 or somewhat) then change it much higher, like 350. Restart enlightenment (killall -HUP enlightenment, restart xserver-nodm, reboot, whatever) and everything should look tiny. When you pop open config dialogs now, you can see most or all of each window. j -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Illume-Config-Display-tp2539032p2541607.html Sent from the Openmoko Support mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Illume Config Display
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:17:50 + smchadw...@gmail.com said: > I'm fiddling around, for the first time, with Illume's config menu; some of > the items display well enough for me to use them, but others -- Wallpaper > Settings, for example -- display beyond the screen edges and there's no way > of scrolling around. I tried changing the screen orientation and the > resolution, but got the same results. Any ideas? Apologies if this has been > covered already. nothing new - known that they dont all fit on screen. :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Illume Config Display
On 26/03/2009, smchadw...@gmail.com wrote: s> I'm fiddling around, for the first time, with Illume's config menu; s> some of the items display well enough for me to use them, but others s> -- Wallpaper Settings, for example -- display beyond the screen edges s> and there's no way of scrolling around. I tried changing the screen s> orientation and the resolution, but got the same results. Any ideas? s> Apologies if this has been covered already. The problem is in wrong DPI settings in illume. They're ~1.5 times bigger than needed, so you have a ~1.5 times bigger windows and other. If setting DPI to correct sizes you'll be unable to read anything without a microscope. 8) PS: when setting x11_16 engine you'll be unable to enter those menues because of segfaulting of illume. 8( Regards -- WBR, Vladimir Berezenko. ( Q-Master/MiR ) ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
