[pfSense Support] IPv6 STF

2010-10-09 Thread Fabian Abplanalp

 Sawadeekap

Is there a guide, other than 
http://www.xaero.org/index.php/archive/tag/pfsense/ , to get IPv6 on the 
LAN side over 6to4, STF?


Thanks,
Fabian


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Re: [pfSense Support] IPv6 STF

2010-10-09 Thread Chris Buechler
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Fabian Abplanalp
fabian.abplan...@bug.ch wrote:
  Sawadeekap

 Is there a guide, other than
 http://www.xaero.org/index.php/archive/tag/pfsense/ , to get IPv6 on the LAN
 side over 6to4, STF?


That's the best I'm aware of. We don't officially support v6 at all until 2.1.

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RE: [pfSense Support] IPv6 STF

2010-10-09 Thread Bart Grefte
What is wrong with that guide that you are asking for an alternative? Looks
fine to me, but I'm new with IPv6 so I could be wrong...

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  Sawadeekap

Is there a guide, other than 
http://www.xaero.org/index.php/archive/tag/pfsense/ , to get IPv6 on the 
LAN side over 6to4, STF?

Thanks,
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Re: [pfSense Support] IPv6 STF

2010-10-09 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 03:18:14PM +0200, Bart Grefte wrote:
 What is wrong with that guide that you are asking for an alternative? Looks
 fine to me, but I'm new with IPv6 so I could be wrong...

What is currently the recommended approach to deal with
native IPv6 on the WAN? Just forward all IPv6 packets to 
a dedicate host behind the firewall, and let the host
deal with it?
 
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 Is there a guide, other than 
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 LAN side over 6to4, STF?
 
 Thanks,
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Re: [pfSense Support] Dual WAN + Firewall Redundancy + UPS Redundancy (?) at entrance

2010-10-09 Thread Hans Maes


On 10/08/2010 07:15 PM, Gerald A wrote:
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Andy Graybeal 
andy.grayb...@casanueva.com mailto:andy.grayb...@casanueva.com wrote:


I'll have 2 firewalls, and 2 UPS's one for each firewall.

Each firewall will have:
1. a hot swap raid array (only two HD's set to RAID 1, mirroring).
2. two hot swap power supplies.

Is one UPS per firewall agreeable?  I don't know how to do it
otherwise.  I can't imagine purchasing 4 UPS's, one for each power
supply.  Seems a little overkill. I welcome any input.


Plug one hotswap supply from each firewall into both of the UPS boxes 
you have. That way, even if you have to service a UPS, you won't lose 
a firewall. I wouldn't dedicate a UPS to
each firewall, because any UPS issue makes your bring down a box no 
matter what.




True, but depending on your configuration, another way to hook this up 
is to bypass the UPS for one of the power supplies on each firewall:


FW1 - Power supply 1 - UPS1
FW1 - Power supply 2 - straight to power grid

FW2 - Power supply 1 - UPS2
FW2 - Power supply 2 - straight to power grid

This way, you would still be up and running if both UPS systems fail for 
some reason.
I've seen it happen! eg short circuit in a system connected to both UPS 
triggering both UPS to shutdown.
(Try explaining complete power failure to your boss when all lights are 
still on in the entire building ;-) )


Agreed, during power grid failure, FW1 would go down if UPS1 fails, and 
FW2 would go down if UPS2 fails, but you got CARP to fix that.


Just my 2 cents.

Regards,

Hans




RE: [pfSense Support] Dual WAN + Firewall Redundancy + UPS Redundancy (?) at entrance

2010-10-09 Thread Adam Thompson
It’s perhaps overkill for many scenarios, but if you’re truly trying for 
no-single-point-of-failure, buy UPSes from two different vendors, ideally using 
two different technologies.  I’ve seen matched pairs of UPSes knocked out by 
the same power event, and more commonly I’ve seen matched sets of batteries 
fail without warning.  To clarify, there are power events that will kill an APC 
SmartUPS whereas their BackUPS won’t even notice a problem; on the other hand, 
the SmartUPS will protect a power supply against some failure modes that a 
BackUPS cannot.  And a full-online-conversion UPS, while ideal, costs an arm 
and a leg.  All three will tolerate different amounts of input power phase 
mismatch (“Power Factor”).

 

It’s nearly impossible to design truly “uninterruptible” power; anyone who’s 
installed a mainframe can attest to this!  You need capacitors on the circuit 
board to smooth ripples (micro-events), ultracapacitors or batteries to prop up 
the input power during sub-second (or even multi-second) outages, a traditional 
UPS to provide interim power, a generator to cover long outages, and a 
ground-zero-grade blast shelter to put it all in so it stays running in case of 
global thermonuclear war… and even then, we still don’t have a technology to 
work around the power outages anticipated when the heat death of the universe 
occurs.

 

Yes, I’m being silly, but my point is that there’s no point in trying to design 
a “perfect” system.  “Better than normal” is almost always what you’re really 
reaching for.

Having CARP failover is level 1, dual power supplies is level 2, dual UPSes is 
level 3, how far do you plan to take this?  What if your ISP goes down – are 
you also going to multi-home?  Are the devices behind this firewall also 
multiply-redundant?

 

I don’t mean to suggest there’s no point in increasing reliability, but even 
two UPSes is going far beyond the needs of most applications.  “Carrier-grade” 
doesn’t even mean having redundant UPSes… at least, none of the telcos I work 
with in my region have redundant UPSes powering their phone switches!

 

Anyway, like I said – if you’re going to run 1 UPS, use *different* UPSes to 
avoid hitting the identical problem at the identical time on all of them, which 
has actually happened to me.

 

-Adam

 

 

From: Hans Maes [mailto:h...@bitnet.be] 
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 10:02
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Dual WAN + Firewall Redundancy + UPS Redundancy 
(?) at entrance

 


On 10/08/2010 07:15 PM, Gerald A wrote:



On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Andy Graybeal andy.grayb...@casanueva.com 
wrote:

I'll have 2 firewalls, and 2 UPS's one for each firewall.

Each firewall will have:
1. a hot swap raid array (only two HD's set to RAID 1, mirroring).
2. two hot swap power supplies.

Is one UPS per firewall agreeable?  I don't know how to do it otherwise.  I 
can't imagine purchasing 4 UPS's, one for each power supply.  Seems a little 
overkill. I welcome any input.


Plug one hotswap supply from each firewall into both of the UPS boxes you have. 
That way, even if you have to service a UPS, you won't lose a firewall. I 
wouldn't dedicate a UPS to
each firewall, because any UPS issue makes your bring down a box no matter what.


True, but depending on your configuration, another way to hook this up is to 
bypass the UPS for one of the power supplies on each firewall:

FW1 - Power supply 1 - UPS1
FW1 - Power supply 2 - straight to power grid

FW2 - Power supply 1 - UPS2
FW2 - Power supply 2 - straight to power grid

This way, you would still be up and running if both UPS systems fail for some 
reason. 
I've seen it happen! eg short circuit in a system connected to both UPS 
triggering both UPS to shutdown. 
(Try explaining complete power failure to your boss when all lights are still 
on in the entire building ;-) )

Agreed, during power grid failure, FW1 would go down if UPS1 fails, and FW2 
would go down if UPS2 fails, but you got CARP to fix that.

Just my 2 cents.

Regards,

Hans





Re: [pfSense Support] Dual WAN + Firewall Redundancy + UPS Redundancy (?) at entrance

2010-10-09 Thread Glenn Kelley
Adam 

I am shocked that the telco around you don't have redundant UPS 

Heck a large number of the cell towers we work with and around even have this 
Even N+1 cooling is in place 

But I agree - depending upon your needs what you lay out is / should be more 
than enough


On Oct 9, 2010, at 9:01 PM, Adam Thompson wrote:

 It’s perhaps overkill for many scenarios, but if you’re truly trying for 
 no-single-point-of-failure, buy UPSes from two different vendors, ideally 
 using two different technologies.  I’ve seen matched pairs of UPSes knocked 
 out by the same power event, and more commonly I’ve seen matched sets of 
 batteries fail without warning.  To clarify, there are power events that will 
 kill an APC SmartUPS whereas their BackUPS won’t even notice a problem; on 
 the other hand, the SmartUPS will protect a power supply against some failure 
 modes that a BackUPS cannot.  And a full-online-conversion UPS, while ideal, 
 costs an arm and a leg.  All three will tolerate different amounts of input 
 power phase mismatch (“Power Factor”).
  
 It’s nearly impossible to design truly “uninterruptible” power; anyone who’s 
 installed a mainframe can attest to this!  You need capacitors on the circuit 
 board to smooth ripples (micro-events), ultracapacitors or batteries to prop 
 up the input power during sub-second (or even multi-second) outages, a 
 traditional UPS to provide interim power, a generator to cover long outages, 
 and a ground-zero-grade blast shelter to put it all in so it stays running in 
 case of global thermonuclear war… and even then, we still don’t have a 
 technology to work around the power outages anticipated when the heat death 
 of the universe occurs.
  
 Yes, I’m being silly, but my point is that there’s no point in trying to 
 design a “perfect” system.  “Better than normal” is almost always what you’re 
 really reaching for.
 Having CARP failover is level 1, dual power supplies is level 2, dual UPSes 
 is level 3, how far do you plan to take this?  What if your ISP goes down – 
 are you also going to multi-home?  Are the devices behind this firewall also 
 multiply-redundant?
  
 I don’t mean to suggest there’s no point in increasing reliability, but even 
 two UPSes is going far beyond the needs of most applications.  
 “Carrier-grade” doesn’t even mean having redundant UPSes… at least, none of 
 the telcos I work with in my region have redundant UPSes powering their phone 
 switches!
  
 Anyway, like I said – if you’re going to run 1 UPS, use *different* UPSes to 
 avoid hitting the identical problem at the identical time on all of them, 
 which has actually happened to me.
  
 -Adam
  
  
 From: Hans Maes [mailto:h...@bitnet.be] 
 Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 10:02
 To: support@pfsense.com
 Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Dual WAN + Firewall Redundancy + UPS 
 Redundancy (?) at entrance
  
 
 On 10/08/2010 07:15 PM, Gerald A wrote:
 
 On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Andy Graybeal andy.grayb...@casanueva.com 
 wrote:
 I'll have 2 firewalls, and 2 UPS's one for each firewall.
 
 Each firewall will have:
 1. a hot swap raid array (only two HD's set to RAID 1, mirroring).
 2. two hot swap power supplies.
 
 Is one UPS per firewall agreeable?  I don't know how to do it otherwise.  I 
 can't imagine purchasing 4 UPS's, one for each power supply.  Seems a little 
 overkill. I welcome any input.
 
 Plug one hotswap supply from each firewall into both of the UPS boxes you 
 have. That way, even if you have to service a UPS, you won't lose a firewall. 
 I wouldn't dedicate a UPS to
 each firewall, because any UPS issue makes your bring down a box no matter 
 what.
 
 
 True, but depending on your configuration, another way to hook this up is to 
 bypass the UPS for one of the power supplies on each firewall:
 
 FW1 - Power supply 1 - UPS1
 FW1 - Power supply 2 - straight to power grid
 
 FW2 - Power supply 1 - UPS2
 FW2 - Power supply 2 - straight to power grid
 
 This way, you would still be up and running if both UPS systems fail for some 
 reason. 
 I've seen it happen! eg short circuit in a system connected to both UPS 
 triggering both UPS to shutdown. 
 (Try explaining complete power failure to your boss when all lights are still 
 on in the entire building ;-) )
 
 Agreed, during power grid failure, FW1 would go down if UPS1 fails, and FW2 
 would go down if UPS2 fails, but you got CARP to fix that.
 
 Just my 2 cents.
 
 Regards,
 
 Hans
 
 



[pfSense Support] 2.0-BETA4 - Admin logout link?

2010-10-09 Thread Yehuda Katz
I just installed 2.0-BETA4, logged in as admin, and created a new user.
I have not been able to find a logout link so I can try using that user.
Is it there and I just don't see it or is it really not there?

- Yehuda


Re: [pfSense Support] 2.0-BETA4 - Admin logout link?

2010-10-09 Thread David Burgess
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Yehuda Katz yeh...@ymkatz.net wrote:
 I just installed 2.0-BETA4, logged in as admin, and created a new user.
 I have not been able to find a logout link so I can try using that user.
 Is it there and I just don't see it or is it really not there?
 - Yehuda

Under the first menu on the left.

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