Re: [pfSense Support] Public ip bgp routing

2009-10-20 Thread Chris Flugstad

Nathan,
Your in seattle?  HAve you setup BGP on pfsense?

-chris flugstad

Nathan Eisenberg wrote:

-Original Message-
From: Aarno Aukia [mailto:aarnoau...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:24 AM
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Public ip bgp routing

Hello,


OpenOSPF is on my task-/wishlist...

-Aarno
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Aarno Aukia
Atrila GmbH
Switzerland




Then you are my new favorite person.  Once implemented, you will have a free 
beer anytime you visit Seattle, USA.  :-)

Best Regards,
Nathan Eisenberg
  


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RE: [pfSense Support] Public ip bgp routing

2009-10-20 Thread Nathan Eisenberg

> -Original Message-
> From: Aarno Aukia [mailto:aarnoau...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:24 AM
> To: support@pfsense.com
> Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Public ip bgp routing
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> OpenOSPF is on my task-/wishlist...
> 
> -Aarno
> --
> Aarno Aukia
> Atrila GmbH
> Switzerland
> 

Then you are my new favorite person.  Once implemented, you will have a free 
beer anytime you visit Seattle, USA.  :-)

Best Regards,
Nathan Eisenberg


Re: [pfSense Support] Public ip bgp routing

2009-10-20 Thread Aarno Aukia
Hello,

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 19:45, Nathan Eisenberg  wrote:
> But the BGP implementation in PFSense needs further development - the web 
> interface for it has bugs, and I'm not sure if the daemon recognizes iBGP vs 
> eBGP (same AS# vs external), or public AS numbers vs Private.  Route 
> reflectors are also incredibly useful in the BGP world - and they're nowhere 
> to be found in the implementation.

OpenBGPd knows all of it, the pfsense gui supports them in the "raw
config"-mode (but you need to read bgpd.conf(5)).

> And what good is a border gateway protocol (BGP) without an internal gateway 
> protocol (IGP) to manage the internal routing?  And no, RIP doesn't count as 
> an IGP these days.  :-)

OpenOSPF is on my task-/wishlist...

-Aarno
-- 
Aarno Aukia
Atrila GmbH
Switzerland

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Re: [pfSense Support] Public ip bgp routing

2009-10-19 Thread Chris Buechler
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Nathan Eisenberg
 wrote:
>
> That's good to know.  There are still some unfortunate WebGUI bugs, though

Please report them with details at http://redmine.pfsense.org. There
aren't any open bugs on the BGP package.

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RE: [pfSense Support] Public ip bgp routing

2009-10-19 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
> -Original Message-
> From: Evgeny Yurchenko [mailto:evg.yu...@rogers.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 11:16 AM
> To: support@pfsense.com
> Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Public ip bgp routing
> 
> Nathan Eisenberg wrote:
> > But the BGP implementation in PFSense needs further development - the
> web interface for it has bugs, and I'm not sure if the daemon
> recognizes iBGP vs eBGP (same AS# vs external), or public AS numbers vs
> Private.  Route reflectors are also incredibly useful in the BGP world
> - and they're nowhere to be found in the implementation.
> >
> Daemon recognizes iBGP vs eBGP. Sorry, I do not know what route
> reflector is.

That's good to know.  There are still some unfortunate WebGUI bugs, though, and 
the lack of an IGP is a showstopper.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Route_reflector
http://www.networkliquidators.com/article-cisco-ccnp-bsci-certification-bgp-route-reflector-tutorial.asp

If you have 5 routers connected to a backbone, and each of them is receiving 
networks, you have a couple options.  You can peer all of the routers in a full 
logical mesh, and when you add a 6th router, add peering to every other IBGP 
router and 5 peerings to the new router.  This becomes absolutely 
unmaintainable when you are looking at more like 50 or 100 routers.  A route 
reflector fixes this problem.

'
* If a route is received from nonclient peer, reflect to clients only.
* If a route is received from a client peer, reflect to all nonclient peers and 
also to client peers, except the originator of the route.
* If a route is received from an EBGP peer, reflect to all client and nonclient 
peers.
'

There's a lot of doc. out there on this, because it's such a pain reliever.

Best Regards,
Nathan Eisenberg


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Re: [pfSense Support] Public ip bgp routing

2009-10-19 Thread Evgeny Yurchenko

Nathan Eisenberg wrote:

But the BGP implementation in PFSense needs further development - the web 
interface for it has bugs, and I'm not sure if the daemon recognizes iBGP vs 
eBGP (same AS# vs external), or public AS numbers vs Private.  Route reflectors 
are also incredibly useful in the BGP world - and they're nowhere to be found 
in the implementation.
  
Daemon recognizes iBGP vs eBGP. Sorry, I do not know what route 
reflector is.


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RE: [pfSense Support] Public ip bgp routing

2009-10-19 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
> -Original Message-
> From: Evgeny Yurchenko [mailto:evg.yu...@rogers.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 7:32 AM
> To: support@pfsense.com
> Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Public ip bgp routing
> 
> Chris Flugstad - Mobile wrote:
> > So ive routed pubblic ips behind pfsense but now i want to route
> blocks of ips over our 2 bgp'd carriers
> >
> > Anyone have a place to start?
> > I will have only 1 interface on the local side and will need multiple
> blocks off that.  Plus setting up so a block can route off another
> block
> >
> > Thanks
> > topher
> >
> What is the problem? You can send as many route blocks as you wish.

Yea, I don't think there's a problem with it.  It should just work, BGP isn't a 
terribly complicated protocol.

But the BGP implementation in PFSense needs further development - the web 
interface for it has bugs, and I'm not sure if the daemon recognizes iBGP vs 
eBGP (same AS# vs external), or public AS numbers vs Private.  Route reflectors 
are also incredibly useful in the BGP world - and they're nowhere to be found 
in the implementation.

And what good is a border gateway protocol (BGP) without an internal gateway 
protocol (IGP) to manage the internal routing?  And no, RIP doesn't count as an 
IGP these days.  :-)

An OSPF or ISIS implementation would be sweet - it would bring the platform 
closer to Cisco/Quagga/etc in terms of routing functionality (functionality - 
not performance).  I would love to be able to build a highly available routing 
infrastructure around PFSense, instead of being limited to using it as a stub 
gateway/firewall.  And even then, it would be nice...

Best Regards,
Nathan Eisenberg


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Re: [pfSense Support] Public ip bgp routing

2009-10-19 Thread Evgeny Yurchenko

Chris Flugstad - Mobile wrote:

So ive routed pubblic ips behind pfsense but now i want to route blocks of ips 
over our 2 bgp'd carriers

Anyone have a place to start?
I will have only 1 interface on the local side and will need multiple blocks 
off that.  Plus setting up so a block can route off another block

Thanks
topher
  

What is the problem? You can send as many route blocks as you wish.


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[pfSense Support] Public ip bgp routing

2009-10-19 Thread Chris Flugstad - Mobile

So ive routed pubblic ips behind pfsense but now i want to route blocks of ips 
over our 2 bgp'd carriers

Anyone have a place to start?
I will have only 1 interface on the local side and will need multiple blocks 
off that.  Plus setting up so a block can route off another block

Thanks
topher

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