Re: [pfSense Support] WinSCP and Port 223 - SFTP

2008-08-03 Thread Tortise
Thanks Chris

Yes I had got that far thanks, it was more detailing the symptoms.  I'll check 
the WAN side access again, when I can, from a couple 
of locations, which are the ones of concern to me.  My recollection was that it 
did the same, will get back to you if I confirm 
this.

Kind regards
David

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On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Tortise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Chris

 I am not sure what you are getting at, I think so. (how else?)


Meaning you're connecting to a port forward using the outside IP from
your LAN interface. NAT reflection is a kludge, I would suggest just
directly connecting, not relying on bouncing through the firewall.
It's probably caused by something to do with NAT reflection. 


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[pfSense Support] WinSCP and Port 223 - SFTP

2008-08-02 Thread Tortise
Hi

When I run a connection thru pfSense (1.2 CF) almost immediately following 
successful connection WinSCP loses the connection with an Server unexpectedly 
closed network connection error message.  Happens with client LAN side and WAN 
side.  

Logs add little that I can see.  

Running the same directly over the LAN is exempt this problem.  

Trying FTP RFC 959 data port violation workaround makes no difference.

Does this make any sense to someone?  

Is pfSense causing this?

Kind regards
David Hingston

Re: [pfSense Support] WinSCP and Port 223 - SFTP

2008-08-02 Thread Bill Marquette
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 5:28 AM, Tortise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi

 When I run a connection thru pfSense (1.2 CF) almost immediately following
 successful connection WinSCP loses the connection with an Server
 unexpectedly closed network connection error message.  Happens with client
 LAN side and WAN side.

WAN side...as in, pfSense isn't in the path of the traffic anymore?

 Trying FTP RFC 959 data port violation workaround makes no difference.

SFTP has nothing to do with FTP.

--Bill

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Re: [pfSense Support] WinSCP and Port 223 - SFTP

2008-08-02 Thread Tortise
Thanks Bill

WAN side for me meant a Path of:

Client WinSCP (WAN side) = Internet = pfSense / NAT = LAN Server

LAN side was indirect, however to me should still work and has done in the past

Client WinSCP on LAN  directed to pfSense WAN IP = NAT = LAN Server

Kind regards
David Hingston 


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On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 5:28 AM, Tortise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi

 When I run a connection thru pfSense (1.2 CF) almost immediately following
 successful connection WinSCP loses the connection with an Server
 unexpectedly closed network connection error message.  Happens with client
 LAN side and WAN side.

WAN side...as in, pfSense isn't in the path of the traffic anymore?
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Re: [pfSense Support] WinSCP and Port 223 - SFTP

2008-08-02 Thread Bill Marquette
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Tortise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks Bill

 WAN side for me meant a Path of:

 Client WinSCP (WAN side) = Internet = pfSense / NAT = LAN Server

 LAN side was indirect, however to me should still work and has done in the 
 past

 Client WinSCP on LAN  directed to pfSense WAN IP = NAT = LAN Server

Any chance your rule is doing OS detection?

--Bill

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Re: [pfSense Support] WinSCP and Port 223 - SFTP

2008-08-02 Thread Tortise
Re: Any chance your rule is doing OS detection?

Gosh I thought you were joking, however wise to first check the rule, bearing 
in mind your responses are invariably well founded, 
sure enough the ability to limit the OS is there(!), however its set to any.  
 The rule is a standard TCP pass Port 223, nothing 
special otherwise.

The connection is also made, just loses it again within seconds.  If one sets 
up a file transfer before it disconnects the transfer 
completes.

Kind regards
David Hingston



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Re: [pfSense Support] WinSCP and Port 223 - SFTP

2008-08-02 Thread Chris Buechler
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Tortise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Re: Any chance your rule is doing OS detection?

 Gosh I thought you were joking, however wise to first check the rule, bearing 
 in mind your responses are invariably well founded,
 sure enough the ability to limit the OS is there(!), however its set to 
 any.   The rule is a standard TCP pass Port 223, nothing
 special otherwise.

 The connection is also made, just loses it again within seconds.  If one sets 
 up a file transfer before it disconnects the transfer
 completes.

You relying on NAT reflection?

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Re: [pfSense Support] WinSCP and Port 223 - SFTP

2008-08-02 Thread Tortise
Chris

I am not sure what you are getting at, I think so. (how else?)

David

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On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Tortise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Re: Any chance your rule is doing OS detection?

 Gosh I thought you were joking, however wise to first check the rule, bearing 
 in mind your responses are invariably well founded,
 sure enough the ability to limit the OS is there(!), however its set to 
 any.   The rule is a standard TCP pass Port 223, nothing
 special otherwise.

 The connection is also made, just loses it again within seconds.  If one sets 
 up a file transfer before it disconnects the 
 transfer
 completes.

You relying on NAT reflection?

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Re: [pfSense Support] WinSCP and Port 223 - SFTP

2008-08-02 Thread Chris Buechler
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Tortise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Chris

 I am not sure what you are getting at, I think so. (how else?)


Meaning you're connecting to a port forward using the outside IP from
your LAN interface. NAT reflection is a kludge, I would suggest just
directly connecting, not relying on bouncing through the firewall.
It's probably caused by something to do with NAT reflection.

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