Re: [pfSense Support] Write 512MB image onto 4GB CF-card ?

2010-09-17 Thread Beat Siegenthaler
 On 16.09.10 21:40, Jim Pingle wrote:
 And IIRC if the card has any kind of built-in wear
 leveling, it will extend the life of the card to 8 times what it would
 have otherwise been.

This calculation is IMHO a bit too optimistic. I think wear levelling
works with some percentage, maybe 5 or 10% defects but not 87,5%. But I
am not expert.

Beat


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Re: [pfSense Support] Write 512MB image onto 4GB CF-card ?

2010-09-17 Thread Michel Servaes
  On 16.09.10 21:40, Jim Pingle wrote:
 And IIRC if the card has any kind of built-in wear
 leveling, it will extend the life of the card to 8 times what it would
 have otherwise been.

 This calculation is IMHO a bit too optimistic. I think wear levelling
 works with some percentage, maybe 5 or 10% defects but not 87,5%. But I
 am not expert.


In any case, this just seems to work just fine... unfortunately I
didn't find sandisk at my reseller, they had dane-elec or kingston.
Being with kingston last time and these boot issues, I chose
dane-elecs this time... they were the same size, but 3x more expensive
than kingston...
Not that more expensive is better - but having no other alternative
at hand - I chose to go this way...

Other than that - when using Physdiskwrite to write the 4GB image - it
consistently failed at about 400kbytes written...
When I took the 512MB image, all 5 cards wrote without a hassle... (I
tried 3 cards with the 4GB image, only one succeeded !)

I decided to rewrite all 5 cards with the 512MB image - this went well
(also, when duplicating the slice to s2, this is also far much faster
now - logically :) )

Thanks for the explaining - don't know if this dane-elec has
wear-levelling though (I'd suspect they would mention this, if it was)

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Re: [pfSense Support] Write 512MB image onto 4GB CF-card ?

2010-09-17 Thread David Burgess
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 2:45 AM, Michel Servaes mic...@mcmc.be wrote:

 Thanks for the explaining - don't know if this dane-elec has
 wear-levelling though (I'd suspect they would mention this, if it was)


My understanding with SSDs (no idea if CFs are the same way) is that
wear-levelling works with available formatted area as well as
unpartitioned space. Or having read all the SSD articles on anandtech
in the last couple years I have the belief that the fuller your drive
is the quicker you will defeat its wear-levelling benefits.

db

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[pfSense Support] Write 512MB image onto 4GB CF-card ?

2010-09-16 Thread Michel Servaes

 Would it hurt, to write a 512MB image onto a 4GB CF-card ?
I don't need the extra space, and this shortens my write-time drastically :)

I'm trying it right now... if no-one knows, I'll tell how it turned out 
anyway (if intrested).


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Re: [pfSense Support] Write 512MB image onto 4GB CF-card ?

2010-09-16 Thread Jim Pingle
On 9/16/2010 3:34 PM, Michel Servaes wrote:
  Would it hurt, to write a 512MB image onto a 4GB CF-card ?
 I don't need the extra space, and this shortens my write-time
 drastically :)
 
 I'm trying it right now... if no-one knows, I'll tell how it turned out
 anyway (if intrested).

It works fine. And IIRC if the card has any kind of built-in wear
leveling, it will extend the life of the card to 8 times what it would
have otherwise been.

Jim

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