Re: [pfSense Support] alix (any verison) on a CF harddisk - full version ?
Its funny you should mention this as I am in the middle of doing exactly the same thing with an ALIX board from http://www.yawarra.com.au/hw-alix2.php I installed the 2GB CF card in a card reader on my PC and booted off the CD and installed pfSense onto the card. I then inserted the card in my very bright new ALIX appliance and everything appeared to go quite well but half way through the boot up it stopped and asked where my root partition was. It appears that /etc/fstab had different device names for my partitions. Instead of /dev/ad0s1a for / I had /dev/da0s1a. A quick edit of fstab and another reboot and everything started perfectly. The end result is I can confirm that the full version does happily run on a CF card and ALIX board. Regards, Digger. Chris Buechler wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Michel Servaes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to buy an Alix (or Wrap), and plug in a CF Harddisk. Would it be possible to push a full version (instead of the embedded ?). Yep. You have to use grub (check the box on the boot loader screen) to boot full installs on ALIX boards but they do work. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [pfSense Support] alix (any verison) on a CF harddisk - full version ?
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 09:31:29PM +1000, digger wrote: The end result is I can confirm that the full version does happily run on a CF card and ALIX board. If this is a consumer flash device mounted r/w probability of failure will go up considerably after half a year, or so. Unfortunately, there's no CF card with wear-levelling hardware as far as I know. This is very different from real SSDs which by now have surpassed hard drives in MTBF. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a http://leitl.org __ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [pfSense Support] alix (any verison) on a CF harddisk - full version ?
Am Donnerstag, den 24.07.2008, 13:53 +0200 schrieb Eugen Leitl: If this is a consumer flash device mounted r/w probability of failure will go up considerably after half a year, or so. Unfortunately, there's no CF card with wear-levelling hardware as far as I know. This is very different from real SSDs which by now have surpassed hard drives in MTBF. That's tru, in 4 to 6 months the Flash will crash wen r/w mounted. Readonly i Have 30 WRAPS without any Problem. greets Heribert Tockner - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [pfSense Support] alix (any verison) on a CF harddisk - full version ?
Heribert Tockner [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha escrito: Am Donnerstag, den 24.07.2008, 13:53 +0200 schrieb Eugen Leitl: If this is a consumer flash device mounted r/w probability of failure will go up considerably after half a year, or so. Unfortunately, there's no CF card with wear-levelling hardware as far as I know. This is very different from real SSDs which by now have surpassed hard drives in MTBF. That's tru, in 4 to 6 months the Flash will crash wen r/w mounted. Readonly i Have 30 WRAPS without any Problem. With a CF of bad mark (very cheap) in RO mounted, crash on about 3 years, in R/W about 4/6 months... Regards. -- Linux is for people who hate Windows, BSD is for people who love UNIX Social Engineer - Because there is no patch for human stupidity - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [pfSense Support] alix (any verison) on a CF harddisk - full version ?
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:53 AM, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 09:31:29PM +1000, digger wrote: The end result is I can confirm that the full version does happily run on a CF card and ALIX board. If this is a consumer flash device mounted r/w probability of failure will go up considerably after half a year, or so. This is technically correct, but we have several developers who run full installs on run of the mill CF cards and have yet to kill a single one. I know there are a number of end users running full installs on CF and I haven't heard of any of them killing a CF either. Theoretically the card should die in less than a year, but I know of installs running much longer than that with no problems. Just be aware that this is a possibility. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [pfSense Support] alix (any verison) on a CF harddisk - full version ?
re: I know there are a number of end users running full installs on CF and I haven't heard of any of them killing a CF either. Theoretically the card should die in less than a year To me the card is not so likely as to die wholesale as it is to have sectors die here and there. These deaths may be much less obvious, especially with most of the OS running in RAM. How much disk handling of errors does FreeBSD cope with? It seems to me it may be prudent to have some sort of automated CF scan should be done checking its memory spaces. Should we CF users add a cron job for something to proactively pick up errors? Kind regards David Hingston - Original Message - From: Chris Buechler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: support@pfsense.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 4:05 AM Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] alix (any verison) on a CF harddisk - full version ? On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:53 AM, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 09:31:29PM +1000, digger wrote: The end result is I can confirm that the full version does happily run on a CF card and ALIX board. If this is a consumer flash device mounted r/w probability of failure will go up considerably after half a year, or so. This is technically correct, but we have several developers who run full installs on run of the mill CF cards and have yet to kill a single one. but I know of installs running much longer than that with no problems. Just be aware that this is a possibility. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [pfSense Support] alix (any verison) on a CF harddisk - full version ?
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Michel Servaes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to buy an Alix (or Wrap), and plug in a CF Harddisk. Would it be possible to push a full version (instead of the embedded ?). Yep. You have to use grub (check the box on the boot loader screen) to boot full installs on ALIX boards but they do work. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
