[pfSense Support] how to block the bit torrent

2011-09-01 Thread suresh suresh
Hi All,

how to block the bit torrent in my nlan network.. and how to block the
websites,and how to block the websites except some lan connection. please
help me.

Thank you,

Regards,
suresh


Re: [pfSense Support] how to block the bit torrent

2011-09-01 Thread Ian Bowers
You won't find much success in trying to block bittorrent with a firewall.
 Your best bet is to use IDS (eg: snort) or another sort of categorization
software or appliance to identify who is using bittorrent and deal with them
at layer 8 via company security policy.  Torrenting is one place where you
simply cannot deploy a fire-and-forget solution and hope for it to actually
work.

Regards,
-Ian

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:38 AM, suresh suresh wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> how to block the bit torrent in my nlan network.. and how to block the
> websites,and how to block the websites except some lan connection. please
> help me.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Regards,
> suresh
>


Re: [pfSense Support] how to block the bit torrent

2011-09-01 Thread suresh suresh
we can install the snort in pfsense 1.2.3?

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Ian Bowers  wrote:

> You won't find much success in trying to block bittorrent with a firewall.
>  Your best bet is to use IDS (eg: snort) or another sort of categorization
> software or appliance to identify who is using bittorrent and deal with them
> at layer 8 via company security policy.  Torrenting is one place where you
> simply cannot deploy a fire-and-forget solution and hope for it to actually
> work.
>
> Regards,
> -Ian
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:38 AM, suresh suresh 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> how to block the bit torrent in my nlan network.. and how to block the
>> websites,and how to block the websites except some lan connection. please
>> help me.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Regards,
>> suresh
>>
>
>


Re: [pfSense Support] how to block the bit torrent

2011-09-01 Thread Ian Bowers
pfsense is the freebsd, so one way or another you can install the snort.
 there is a pfsense package for it though for easy installation and
maintenance.  you may want to google IDS and how to tune it before deploying
it.  IDS isn't something you want to walk into blind.

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:04 AM, suresh suresh
wrote:

> we can install the snort in pfsense 1.2.3?
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Ian Bowers  wrote:
>
>> You won't find much success in trying to block bittorrent with a firewall.
>>  Your best bet is to use IDS (eg: snort) or another sort of categorization
>> software or appliance to identify who is using bittorrent and deal with them
>> at layer 8 via company security policy.  Torrenting is one place where you
>> simply cannot deploy a fire-and-forget solution and hope for it to actually
>> work.
>>
>> Regards,
>> -Ian
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:38 AM, suresh suresh > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> how to block the bit torrent in my nlan network.. and how to block the
>>> websites,and how to block the websites except some lan connection. please
>>> help me.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> suresh
>>>
>>
>>
>


Re: [pfSense Support] how to block the bit torrent

2011-09-01 Thread suresh suresh
if we disable the bit torrent using traffic shapers.. bit torrent will be
block or what will happen.please help me

Thank you,

Regards,
Suresh

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Ian Bowers  wrote:

> pfsense is the freebsd, so one way or another you can install the snort.
>  there is a pfsense package for it though for easy installation and
> maintenance.  you may want to google IDS and how to tune it before deploying
> it.  IDS isn't something you want to walk into blind.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:04 AM, suresh suresh  > wrote:
>
>> we can install the snort in pfsense 1.2.3?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Ian Bowers  wrote:
>>
>>> You won't find much success in trying to block bittorrent with a
>>> firewall.  Your best bet is to use IDS (eg: snort) or another sort of
>>> categorization software or appliance to identify who is using bittorrent and
>>> deal with them at layer 8 via company security policy.  Torrenting is one
>>> place where you simply cannot deploy a fire-and-forget solution and hope for
>>> it to actually work.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> -Ian
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:38 AM, suresh suresh <
>>> suresh.notion...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi All,

 how to block the bit torrent in my nlan network.. and how to block the
 websites,and how to block the websites except some lan connection. please
 help me.

 Thank you,

 Regards,
 suresh

>>>
>>>
>>
>


Re: [pfSense Support] how to block the bit torrent

2011-09-01 Thread Ian Bowers
savvy users will use a different port.  if your goal is to say "we block bit
torrent", this shouldnt matter.  if your goal is to actually block bit
torrent or successfully enforce security policy, this may not be sufficient.

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:32 AM, suresh suresh
wrote:

> if we disable the bit torrent using traffic shapers.. bit torrent will be
> block or what will happen.please help me
>
> Thank you,
>
> Regards,
> Suresh
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Ian Bowers  wrote:
>
>> pfsense is the freebsd, so one way or another you can install the snort.
>>  there is a pfsense package for it though for easy installation and
>> maintenance.  you may want to google IDS and how to tune it before deploying
>> it.  IDS isn't something you want to walk into blind.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:04 AM, suresh suresh <
>> suresh.notion...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> we can install the snort in pfsense 1.2.3?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Ian Bowers  wrote:
>>>
 You won't find much success in trying to block bittorrent with a
 firewall.  Your best bet is to use IDS (eg: snort) or another sort of
 categorization software or appliance to identify who is using bittorrent 
 and
 deal with them at layer 8 via company security policy.  Torrenting is one
 place where you simply cannot deploy a fire-and-forget solution and hope 
 for
 it to actually work.

 Regards,
 -Ian


 On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:38 AM, suresh suresh <
 suresh.notion...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> how to block the bit torrent in my nlan network.. and how to block the
> websites,and how to block the websites except some lan connection. please
> help me.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Regards,
> suresh
>


>>>
>>
>


RE: [pfSense Support] how to block the bit torrent

2011-09-01 Thread Ryan Rodrigue
Get it, Read It.  It will help a lot I think.

 

http://www.amazon.com/pfSense-Definitive-Christopher-M-Buechler/dp/097903428
0



Re: [pfSense Support] how to block the bit torrent

2011-09-01 Thread suresh suresh
suppose i block through the traffic shapers means what will happen

if user changes bit torrent port in his/her machine only he/her download
torrent or bit torrent automatically changes the port number start
downloading.please help me.

Thank you,

Regards,
Suresh

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Ian Bowers  wrote:

> savvy users will use a different port.  if your goal is to say "we block
> bit torrent", this shouldnt matter.  if your goal is to actually block bit
> torrent or successfully enforce security policy, this may not be sufficient.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:32 AM, suresh suresh  > wrote:
>
>> if we disable the bit torrent using traffic shapers.. bit torrent will be
>> block or what will happen.please help me
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Regards,
>> Suresh
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Ian Bowers  wrote:
>>
>>> pfsense is the freebsd, so one way or another you can install the snort.
>>>  there is a pfsense package for it though for easy installation and
>>> maintenance.  you may want to google IDS and how to tune it before deploying
>>> it.  IDS isn't something you want to walk into blind.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:04 AM, suresh suresh <
>>> suresh.notion...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 we can install the snort in pfsense 1.2.3?


 On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Ian Bowers  wrote:

> You won't find much success in trying to block bittorrent with a
> firewall.  Your best bet is to use IDS (eg: snort) or another sort of
> categorization software or appliance to identify who is using bittorrent 
> and
> deal with them at layer 8 via company security policy.  Torrenting is one
> place where you simply cannot deploy a fire-and-forget solution and hope 
> for
> it to actually work.
>
> Regards,
> -Ian
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:38 AM, suresh suresh <
> suresh.notion...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> how to block the bit torrent in my nlan network.. and how to block the
>> websites,and how to block the websites except some lan connection. please
>> help me.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Regards,
>> suresh
>>
>
>

>>>
>>
>


Re: [pfSense Support] how to block the bit torrent

2011-09-01 Thread Ian Bowers
if you use any technology to classify and/or block bit torrent at layer 4,
all someone has to do is change their source port to something different, or
proxy the connection so the destination port is different.  Or if you're
particularly unlucky, they might use VPN to mask it.

This is why you cannot depend on a fire-and-forget solution to do all the
blocking for you.  it's better to identify the offending traffic, save some
pcaps to show what the user was doing, then deal with the user themselves
face to face or over email.  Notify them that their activity is a breach of
security policy.

What is reading have you done on traffic shaping, packet filtering, IDS,
etc?  No offense, but I think you may lack some fundamental understanding of
the technologies involved.  Please take that as an observation only, I'm not
talking down to you.  You've asked a number of very basic questions today,
so I'm trying to get a good handle of where you're at.


Regards,
- Ian


On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:49 AM, suresh suresh
wrote:

> suppose i block through the traffic shapers means what will happen
>
> if user changes bit torrent port in his/her machine only he/her download
> torrent or bit torrent automatically changes the port number start
> downloading.please help me.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Regards,
> Suresh
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Ian Bowers  wrote:
>
>> savvy users will use a different port.  if your goal is to say "we block
>> bit torrent", this shouldnt matter.  if your goal is to actually block bit
>> torrent or successfully enforce security policy, this may not be sufficient.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:32 AM, suresh suresh <
>> suresh.notion...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> if we disable the bit torrent using traffic shapers.. bit torrent will be
>>> block or what will happen.please help me
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Suresh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Ian Bowers  wrote:
>>>
 pfsense is the freebsd, so one way or another you can install the snort.
  there is a pfsense package for it though for easy installation and
 maintenance.  you may want to google IDS and how to tune it before 
 deploying
 it.  IDS isn't something you want to walk into blind.


 On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:04 AM, suresh suresh <
 suresh.notion...@gmail.com> wrote:

> we can install the snort in pfsense 1.2.3?
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Ian Bowers  wrote:
>
>> You won't find much success in trying to block bittorrent with a
>> firewall.  Your best bet is to use IDS (eg: snort) or another sort of
>> categorization software or appliance to identify who is using bittorrent 
>> and
>> deal with them at layer 8 via company security policy.  Torrenting is one
>> place where you simply cannot deploy a fire-and-forget solution and hope 
>> for
>> it to actually work.
>>
>> Regards,
>> -Ian
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:38 AM, suresh suresh <
>> suresh.notion...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> how to block the bit torrent in my nlan network.. and how to block
>>> the websites,and how to block the websites except some lan connection.
>>> please help me.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> suresh
>>>
>>
>>
>

>>>
>>
>


Re: [pfSense Support] how to block the bit torrent

2011-09-02 Thread greg whynott
as i'm sure you know,  that book is based on the 1.x version.   if you are
using 2.x or about to,  it may cause some confusion as things have been
moved/changed...

perhaps they have an errata update you can download or will...

-g




On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Ryan Rodrigue wrote:

> Get it, Read It.  It will help a lot I think.
>
> ** **
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/pfSense-Definitive-Christopher-M-Buechler/dp/0979034280
> 
>


Re: [pfSense Support] how to block the bit torrent

2011-09-02 Thread Glenn Kelley
There is a PFSense 2 book available for the Kindle or paperback - 
in Amazon Store - just search for PFSENSE 


On Sep 2, 2011, at 12:13 PM, greg whynott wrote:

> as i'm sure you know,  that book is based on the 1.x version.   if you are 
> using 2.x or about to,  it may cause some confusion as things have been 
> moved/changed...
> 
> perhaps they have an errata update you can download or will...
> 
> -g
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Ryan Rodrigue  
> wrote:
> Get it, Read It.  It will help a lot I think.
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/pfSense-Definitive-Christopher-M-Buechler/dp/0979034280
> 
> 



Re: [pfSense Support] how to block the bit torrent

2011-09-02 Thread Chris Buechler
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Glenn Kelley  wrote:
> There is a PFSense 2 book available for the Kindle or paperback -
> in Amazon Store - just search for PFSENSE
>

Not official, and poorly done. Wouldn't recommend it, our 1.2.x book
is more helpful with 2.0.

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RE: [pfSense Support] how to block the bit torrent

2011-09-02 Thread Ryan Rodrigue

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Glenn Kelley  wrote:
> There is a PFSense 2 book available for the Kindle or paperback - in 
> Amazon Store - just search for PFSENSE


I recommended the 1.2 book because he said he was running 1.2



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Re: [pfSense Support] how to block the bit torrent

2011-09-02 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 09/02/2011 12:36 PM, Chris Buechler wrote:
> Not official, and poorly done. Wouldn't recommend it, our 1.2.x book
> is more helpful with 2.0.

Hi Chris,

I own the 1.2.x book and found it very useful.  Are there any remote
plans for a 2.0 book once 2.0 (final) is out?

Regards,
Jorge

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Re: [pfSense Support] how to block the bit torrent

2011-09-02 Thread Glenn Kelley
Thanks Chris - figured with the many changes from 1.2.x to 2 it still might be 
worth it.
but I hear ya there :-)


On Sep 2, 2011, at 4:18 PM, Jorge Fábregas wrote:

> On 09/02/2011 12:36 PM, Chris Buechler wrote:
>> Not official, and poorly done. Wouldn't recommend it, our 1.2.x book
>> is more helpful with 2.0.
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> I own the 1.2.x book and found it very useful.  Are there any remote
> plans for a 2.0 book once 2.0 (final) is out?
> 
> Regards,
> Jorge
> 
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